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Post by WhyDelilah on Feb 17, 2017 14:45:20 GMT
It amazes me how everyone thinks the club is handing out charity by freezing the prices. Freezing prices is the minimum they should do. If they went up it would be scandalous, given all the money the club now makes from being in the Prem. The players, the manager, the owners and management are all rich beyond their wildest dreams. I don't say that in a bitter and twisted way. It's just a matter of fact. An average season ticket costs around £400. Our first team players earn that in about 10 minutes. It's a weekly wage to some in this area. It amazes me how much we've lost touch with reality now that we're drowning in waves of cash since the TV deals went crazy. They could give tickets away and it wouldn't make much difference to the club in the grand scheme of things. They could certainly reduce prices without it hurting them, whilst massively helping the fans. We've been duped into thinking we're getting a great deal in this country. You can get a season ticket at Bayern Munich for around £100!! Even cheaper at Barcelona. The average matchday ticket in the bundlesliga is just over 20 quid. It'd around 50 quid in England. We're the richest league in the world and yet we charge our fans the most. And we've somehow managed to do it and convince the fans to rejoice about it. Unbelievable. I understand to a degree, in isolation the price of football is a fucking scandal and some clubs even reduced price this season but there's no doubt we're certainly the best looking bloke in that particular burns unit and for that the club need applauding. Loudly. Team 15/16 16/17 Change Arsenal £1,014 £1,014 Tottenham £765 £765 Chelsea £750 £750 Liverpool £710 £685 -£25 Southampton £648 £648 Everton £616 £580 -£36 Middlesbrough £461 £570 £109 Bournemouth £550 £550 Crystal Palace £550 £550 Man Utd £532 £532 Watford £505 £505 Swansea £419 £419 West Brom £399 £399 Leicester £395 £395 Burnley £390 £390 Sunderland £370 £380 £10 Hull City £606 £324 -£282 Man City £299 £299 Stoke £294 £294 West Ham £617.50 £289 -£328.50 I do agree mate. We're the best of a bad bunch. I've said the club do more than most in my previous posts.
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Post by lancer on Feb 17, 2017 15:11:14 GMT
It's brilliant but I don't believe the club do enough via the national media to publicise it. I agree, mate, but if it was one of the 'big' clubs announcing they're reducing the price of having a piss to a pound, it would be all over the papers and Sky news.
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Post by 3putts on Feb 17, 2017 15:11:23 GMT
frozen for 10 years unbelievable gesture by peter coates and the club.beggars belief that the fans of burnley,sunderland,hull,swansea,watford have to pay more than us. only west sham are cheaper and only because they have been gifted a new stadium by the taxpayer. beggars belief that some people still wish to moan
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Post by therightside on Feb 17, 2017 15:17:16 GMT
The fact that we have kept prices constant for ten seasons is a great achievement by our club in my opinion. Our prices have been consistently cheaper than any other top flight club for a decade. Our 2017/18 season ticket costs are surely worth a mention on the hotdeals uk. com website by a member of that site? (If any of their members read this site?)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2017 15:19:45 GMT
I agree re £30. I hate the 20 is plenty campaign tbh. It's just done because it rhymes. And for that reason I just can't take it seriously. 21 just for fun 22 that'll do 23 suits me 24 won't pay more.. Take your pick I could go on ... Steer clear of a job in advertising, mate.
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Post by Cast no shadow on Feb 17, 2017 15:26:45 GMT
Will they be selling season tickets for the new corner? I fancy a move
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Post by WhyDelilah on Feb 17, 2017 16:29:26 GMT
The fact that we have kept prices constant for ten seasons is a great achievement by our club in my opinion. Our prices have been consistently cheaper than any other top flight club for a decade. Our 2017/18 season ticket costs are surely worth a mention on the hotdeals uk. com website by a member of that site? (If any of their members read this site?) Any other top flight club? What about Bayern Munich?
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Post by mattador78 on Feb 17, 2017 16:41:27 GMT
Sweet money already sat waiting
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Post by salopstick on Feb 17, 2017 16:42:05 GMT
The fact that we have kept prices constant for ten seasons is a great achievement by our club in my opinion. Our prices have been consistently cheaper than any other top flight club for a decade. Our 2017/18 season ticket costs are surely worth a mention on the hotdeals uk. com website by a member of that site? (If any of their members read this site?) Any other top flight club? What about Bayern Munich? You can't compare Stoke with Munich. German (and other leagues) are cheaper, that is a culture difference and nothing to do with Stoke. . There is not another top prem club that has done more for the ticket prices than us. You can't really include the anomaly of West Ham as that was for different reasons. It would have been easy for Stoke to raise prices when we got promoted they didn't. Easy to raise prices the first few seasons. They didn't. As stated earlier in real terms including inflation and vat rises the club didn't increase prices so ST revenue has decreased. The club should be applauded not picked at. If they reduced by £50 people would still use the argument that the prem is awash with money and should reduce further.
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Post by WhyDelilah on Feb 17, 2017 16:44:52 GMT
Any other top flight club? What about Bayern Munich? You can't compare Stoke with Munich. German (and other leagues) are cheaper, that is a culture difference and nothing to do with Stoke. . There is not another top prem club that has done more for the ticket prices than us. You can't really include the anomaly of West Ham as that was for different reasons. It would have been easy for Stoke to raise prices when we got promoted they didn't. Easy to raise prices the first few seasons. They didn't. As stated earlier in real terms including inflation and vat rises the club didn't increase prices so ST revenue has decreased. The club should be applauded not picked at. If they reduced by £50 people would still use the argument that the prem is awash with money and should reduce further. I don't think they could've easily raised prices. There would have been a lot of unhappy fans based on increased television TV deals which have gone crazy. Stoke have done more than most. It isn't really fair to compare our prices with those of the London clubs though. The prices are reflected of the wages in the area.
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Post by emmbrook1956 on Feb 17, 2017 17:20:36 GMT
Bayern, why don't you just go,and watch Newcastle Town. It should be significantly cheaper for you and perhaps you then might appreciate how Stoke play some time!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 17, 2017 17:32:58 GMT
I assume you pair will be at the front of the queue to make a stand against these rip-off prices then & not buying one? Eh? I've said its a good thing!
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Feb 17, 2017 17:38:11 GMT
Great Club.
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Post by gonk on Feb 17, 2017 17:44:40 GMT
Of course it's a bloody gimmick - that's the point. Anyway you said thirty was fine earlier - now you want it cheaper. I wouldn't argue with 30. In reality I'm not arsed because it doesn't affect me. But there's nothing stopping them from making it a tenner. I think with the product on offer 30 quid is about right but if people want it cheaper then why stop at 20? In reality I'm not arsed because it doesn't affect me. ?????
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 17, 2017 17:46:53 GMT
I wouldn't argue with 30. In reality I'm not arsed because it doesn't affect me. But there's nothing stopping them from making it a tenner. I think with the product on offer 30 quid is about right but if people want it cheaper then why stop at 20? In reality I'm not arsed because it doesn't affect me. ????? Yup! I don't buy single matchday tickets and when now away tickets are capped at 30 it doesn't affect me! It should be the same for home tickets though. I had my own cap anyway and that was 35 quid. But there is absolutely nothing to stop PL clubs charging a tenner.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Feb 17, 2017 17:54:20 GMT
This is brilliant again and I'm surprised anyone can think differently.
If (like many clubs) we had been gradually increasing prices over the years, then asking for a reduction would be fair enough.
This however is the TENTH frozen price on the bounce we are talking about though and the club should be lauded for it.
Just goes to show you really can't please everyone.
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Post by Pugsley on Feb 17, 2017 18:04:06 GMT
In reality I'm not arsed because it doesn't affect me. ????? Yup! I don't buy single matchday tickets and when now away tickets are capped 30 it doesn't affect me! It should be the same for home tickets though. I had my own cap anyway and that was 35 quid. But there is absolutely nothing to stop PL clubs charging a tenner. Why don't you go away?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 17, 2017 18:04:50 GMT
Yup! I don't buy single matchday tickets and when now away tickets are capped 30 it doesn't affect me! It should be the same for home tickets though. I had my own cap anyway and that was 35 quid. But there is absolutely nothing to stop PL clubs charging a tenner. Why don't you go away? I'm going Spurs......
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Post by Pugsley on Feb 17, 2017 18:10:22 GMT
No I meant why don't you go away...
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 17, 2017 18:11:19 GMT
No I meant why don't you go away... Haha because you'd miss me.
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Post by Pugsley on Feb 17, 2017 18:13:55 GMT
No I meant why don't you go away... Haha because you'd miss me. Spurs is cracking, had a great day out last season there with the lad. Not going this time around unfortunately. The walk from Seven Sisters is a bit shit though.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 17, 2017 18:15:29 GMT
Haha because you'd miss me. Spurs is cracking, had a great day out last season there with the lad. Not going this time around unfortunately. The walk from Seven Sisters is a bit shit though. I've always wanted to go to WHL and this is obviously the last chance to do so, so I conner wait!
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Post by salopstick on Feb 17, 2017 18:16:19 GMT
You can't compare Stoke with Munich. German (and other leagues) are cheaper, that is a culture difference and nothing to do with Stoke. . There is not another top prem club that has done more for the ticket prices than us. You can't really include the anomaly of West Ham as that was for different reasons. It would have been easy for Stoke to raise prices when we got promoted they didn't. Easy to raise prices the first few seasons. They didn't. As stated earlier in real terms including inflation and vat rises the club didn't increase prices so ST revenue has decreased. The club should be applauded not picked at. If they reduced by £50 people would still use the argument that the prem is awash with money and should reduce further. I don't think they could've easily raised prices. There would have been a lot of unhappy fans based on increased television TV deals which have gone crazy. Stoke have done more than most. It isn't really fair to compare our prices with those of the London clubs though. The prices are reflected of the wages in the area. West Ham are an anamoly as they used cheap ST as a bribe for the move. Man City have a few tickets in the gods cheaper than ours. We are the best. Rather than a half arsed announcement DEVOT10N on social media I would rather Coates broadcast it on SSN
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Post by Pugsley on Feb 17, 2017 18:17:30 GMT
Spurs is cracking, had a great day out last season there with the lad. Not going this time around unfortunately. The walk from Seven Sisters is a bit shit though. I've always wanted to go to WHL and this is obviously the last chance to do so, so I conner wait! Coach or train?
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Post by simple on Feb 17, 2017 18:20:56 GMT
In this day of greed and computer warriors ,SCFC have done something no other business as far has I know have done that's not to increase there entrance charge for 10years,so taking inflation in consideration they are about 10% lower.But the usual posters on here still are not happy,these so called supporters just moan for the sake of moaning,personally I think we would be better off without them ,and if they take a seat up which I am sure some don't ,they should vacate it for someone who gets behind the club.
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Post by claytonscrubs on Feb 17, 2017 18:23:43 GMT
I can book my holiday to Bognar Regis now.
Thx Stoke City F.C. 👍
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Post by mattador78 on Feb 17, 2017 18:29:44 GMT
In this day of greed and computer warriors ,SCFC have done something no other business as far has I know have done that's not to increase there entrance charge for 10years,so taking inflation in consideration they are about 10% lower.But the usual posters on here still are not happy,these so called supporters just moan for the sake of moaning,personally I think we would be better off without them ,and if they take a seat up which I am sure some don't ,they should vacate it for someone who gets behind the club. Just about to post something similar
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2017 18:40:34 GMT
I don't give a toss what other fans pay for their football. 344 quid is a fantastic deal. Ten years on the trot is brilliant by the club. We'll done Stoke City.
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Post by WhyDelilah on Feb 17, 2017 18:42:17 GMT
This is brilliant again and I'm surprised anyone can think differently. If (like many clubs) we had been gradually increasing prices over the years, then asking for a reduction would be fair enough. This however is the TENTH frozen price on the bounce we are talking about though and the club should be lauded for it. Just goes to show you really can't please everyone. It seems to me mate that we've just accepted our current prices are absolutely the best possible, and any suggestion or idea that the club could do more is written off as nothing more than "you can't please anyone" nonsense; which is wrong in my opinion. For the record, I've already said the club do more than most and I think it's a decent move to freeze prices again. I just don't buy into this "lauding the club" or "let's get the bunting and red carpet out for our generous owners, this is amazing news" that seems to be the majority response. For me, I think we've been overcharged for that long that we've just accepted it's the norm. I don't think it's a ridiculous notion to suggest the club could do more. Why not offer those people renewing their season tickets a discount? Or those that have renewed for 5 or even 10 Seasons consecutively an even bigger discount? And I don't just say that because I fall into that bracket. I don't get to many away games these days but I believe in a system that rewards our regular away travellers too. The game is all about the fans. It is simply nothing without us. I believe that loyalty should be rewarded, and there's never been a better time for the club to do just that whilst we're reaping the benefits of our current status. I know some will say ultimately we're a business and there's no room for sentiment but a football club is different than your average corporation. It's intrinsically linked to its fanbase and is nothing without it. In general, the game is nothing with us. A football club isn't a faceless company that has no attachment to its clients. There's an undeniable emotional bond and the clubs need to do all in their power to retain that support, help grow it and retain it for future generations. The ludicrous TV deals are as a result of the product on offer too, and the fans play a massive part in that. We shouldn't have to campaign tirelessly to get a cap on the over inflated away day prices. I don't think we should just accept that that the current season ticket deals are the best the club can offer either. I accept it isn't a popular opinion but the premier league is drowning in money and it's being completely disproportionately distributed. The majority seem to accept that freezing prices is a grand gesture and we'd be lunatics to expect anything more. I just can't to agree with that. If we were to ever drop down the leagues then it would be a completely different matter. If gate receipts were crucial to the clubs running then I could accept prices as they are, or even increases in fact. The reality is though, we're being bankrolled by ludicrous TV deals and we're getting ridiculous amounts of money as a result. I don't think it's unwarranted to suggest the club could do a bit more to reward their loyal fanbase.
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Post by foster on Feb 17, 2017 18:46:32 GMT
This is brilliant again and I'm surprised anyone can think differently. If (like many clubs) we had been gradually increasing prices over the years, then asking for a reduction would be fair enough. This however is the TENTH frozen price on the bounce we are talking about though and the club should be lauded for it. Just goes to show you really can't please everyone. It seems to me mate that we've just accepted our current prices are absolutely the best possible, and any suggestion or idea that the club could do more is written off as nothing more than "you can't please anyone" nonsense; which is wrong in my opinion. For the record, I've already said the club do more than most and I think it's a decent move to freeze prices again. I just don't buy into this "lauding the club" or "let's get the bunting and red carpet out for our generous owners, this is amazing news" that seems to be the majority response. For me, I think we've been overcharged for that long that we've just accepted it's the norm. I don't think it's a ridiculous notion to suggest the club could do more. Why not offer those people renewing their season tickets a discount? Or those that have renewed for 5 or even 10 Seasons consecutively an even bigger discount? And I don't just say that because I fall into that bracket. I don't get to many away games these days but I believe in a system that rewards our regular away travellers too. The game is all about the fans. It is simply nothing without us. I believe that loyalty should be rewarded, and there's never been a better time for the club to do just that whilst we're reaping the benefits of our current status. I know some will say ultimately we're a business and there's no room for sentiment but a football club is different than your average corporation. It's intrinsically linked to its fanbase and is nothing without it. In general, the game is nothing with us. A football club isn't a faceless company that has no attachment to its clients. There's an undeniable emotional bond and the clubs need to do all in their power to retain that support, help grow it and retain it for future generations. The ludicrous TV deals are as a result of the product on offer too, and the fans play a massive part in that. We shouldn't have to campaign tirelessly to get a cap on the over inflated away day prices. I don't think we should just accept that that the current season ticket deals are the best the club can offer either. I accept it isn't a popular opinion but the premier league is drowning in money and it's being completely disproportionately distributed. The majority seem to accept that freezing prices is a grand gesture and we'd be lunatics to expect anything more. I just can't to agree with that. If we were to ever drop down the leagues then it would be a completely different matter. If gate receipts were crucial to the clubs running then I could accept prices as they are, or even increases in fact. The reality is though, we're being bankrolled by ludicrous TV deals and we're getting ridiculous amounts of money as a result. I don't think it's unwarranted to suggest the club could do a bit more to reward their loyal fanbase. Club could do more but this is the price you pay for the Prem and we get the best deal of all the clubs, especially the top half sides. Considering we also have one of the smallest stadiums and get much less than the majority of other prem sides in terms of gate receipt revenue then i think it's a good gesture. It would be strange if the club halved prices then we get relegated and they're forced to increase them again.
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