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Jan 14, 2017 16:56:07 GMT
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Post by nonameface on Jan 14, 2017 16:56:07 GMT
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Post by Mint Berry Barks on Jan 14, 2017 16:56:30 GMT
FFS
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Jan 14, 2017 16:58:16 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2017 16:58:16 GMT
Boom.
What crisis?
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jan 14, 2017 17:00:40 GMT
And 11 points clear of the bottom 3. Great win today Hopefiully we will look a more attractive pull to our targets. You really don't know what your going to get with us. Was convinced wed get nothing at this real bogey fixture. Just shows we need a mix of hard work and flair.
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Jan 14, 2017 17:00:41 GMT
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Post by nonameface on Jan 14, 2017 17:00:41 GMT
Exactly. There are things we need to improve upon and if we do then we could get 7th this season, which with an early FA cup exit would be a great season. Fingers crossed!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2017 17:01:22 GMT
One win (and a few goals) off 7th.
FFS
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Post by jeycov on Jan 14, 2017 17:01:56 GMT
And only 2 points behind West Brom?
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Jan 14, 2017 17:02:02 GMT
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Post by scfcno1fan on Jan 14, 2017 17:02:02 GMT
Needed that win with Man U next week.
Great result though.
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Jan 14, 2017 17:04:10 GMT
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Post by samba :) on Jan 14, 2017 17:04:10 GMT
How the hell
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Jan 14, 2017 17:08:56 GMT
Post by jzime on Jan 14, 2017 17:08:56 GMT
It was a very good win and, more importantly, a very much-needed win.
I don't want to sound negative immediately after a win of that nature, but it still doesn't change a great deal for me. We've still only beaten Watford, Burnley and the three worst teams in the division all season. I thought that we would push on when we went on our little run in October and won three in a row and stayed unbeaten in six. But we didn't manage to do that.
We seriously do need to push on now and take a healthy number of points out of West Brom, Everton and Palace, or we won't stay in the top half for very long and all the criticisms will come straight back again.
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Post by chiswickpotter on Jan 14, 2017 17:08:59 GMT
Since Grant took over, we have taken 26 points from 16 games which includes Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool away, keep this up and we end up with 54 points. The idea we should be worried was so wide of the mark, take out those three games and we have 26 points from 13, averaging 2 points a game, scoring 20 and conceding 8 - we are very dominant against the teams in our peer group
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Post by chiswickpotter on Jan 14, 2017 17:13:55 GMT
It was a very good win and, more importantly, a very much-needed win. I don't want to sound negative immediately after a win of that nature, but it still doesn't change a great deal for me. We've still only beaten Watford, Burnley and the three worst teams in the division all season. I thought that we would push on when we went on our little run in October and won three in a row and stayed unbeaten in six. But we didn't manage to do that. We seriously do need to push on now and take a healthy number of points out of West Brom, Everton and Palace, or we won't stay in the top half for very long and all the criticisms will come straight back again. That's 7 wins which is pretty decent from 21 games, we have only lost twice to teams outside of the top 7 and one of those was Palace when he had Given in goals. We are on an unbelievable run of form, 26 points from 16 games, over a season that equates to 62 points. It doesn't matter who we get points off but we are currently doing it very effectively. Man Utd will not see us as an easy game next week
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2017 17:17:19 GMT
9th...
Like being on a long trip away then arriving safely back home.
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Post by stokefanone on Jan 14, 2017 18:42:38 GMT
Good win today, lets hope we have blown cobwebs away for the remainder of the season, a couple of big scalps at home now, to give us some cheer.
With the remaining games, we can safely assume a return of 20-25 points, that should see us achieve between 8th and tenth. An above average run, like Hughes first season, would see 7th I think.
Good season considering the cup woes, come to think of it ,we would have probably gone out in the next round anyway.
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Jan 14, 2017 18:45:09 GMT
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Post by butlerstbob on Jan 14, 2017 18:45:09 GMT
I do hope that crocodile hasn't got long legs otherwise he might just bite us on the arse you know! : )
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2017 18:56:44 GMT
I've been a big critic of Hughes and the team of late and I still think there are numerous issues that he needs to resolve. But that was a much improved first half and a very much needed 3 points to hopefully steady the ship and push us on for a good second half of the season. If he can sort out the various issues then hopefully he can continue with the progress we showed in his first 2 seasons at the club.
Good performance overall today, great win, 3 much needed points. And we're 9th tonight ! 👍
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Jan 14, 2017 19:02:45 GMT
9th... Like being on a long trip away then arriving safely back home. Do you think there'll be a few trying to climb back on board the rollercoaster? Hope so.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2017 22:18:04 GMT
9th... Like being on a long trip away then arriving safely back home. Do you think there'll be a few trying to climb back on board the rollercoaster? Hope so. Rollercoaster rides are great, but it's usually a relief to get off them for a while. A period of calm would be good. How you get that on a messageboard that seems almost as divided now as it did under the king of division, I'm not sure.
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Jan 14, 2017 22:23:43 GMT
Post by chesterfieldstokie on Jan 14, 2017 22:23:43 GMT
It was a very good win and, more importantly, a very much-needed win. I don't want to sound negative immediately after a win of that nature, but it still doesn't change a great deal for me. We've still only beaten Watford, Burnley and the three worst teams in the division all season. I thought that we would push on when we went on our little run in October and won three in a row and stayed unbeaten in six. But we didn't manage to do that. We seriously do need to push on now and take a healthy number of points out of West Brom, Everton and Palace, or we won't stay in the top half for very long and all the criticisms will come straight back again. I don't want to sound negative But I will anyway !!
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Post by Scrotnig on Jan 14, 2017 22:32:33 GMT
Whatever we may think of Hughes, good or bad, fans of other clubs I've spoken to think he's doing ok and are stunned when I tell them that many of our fans seem to be really pissed off (including me sometimes).
It's an odd situation. We look on paper like we're doing well.
Is it that we have too high expectations these days? Or is it that the teams below us are REALLY shit and make us look better than we are?
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Jan 14, 2017 22:34:00 GMT
Post by toppercorner on Jan 14, 2017 22:34:00 GMT
we've been here before haven't we ....?
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Jan 14, 2017 22:51:08 GMT
Hughes talking about continually 'ticking off boxes'. Where we're at I'm happy to celebrate these minor victories also knowing they all contribute to a better whole.
There have been several 'ticking off of boxes' this season, not necessarily remarkable or headline worthy, nevertheless important for the journey. Doing the double against lesser teams. Taking points from the Old Trafford, NE and the Capitol.
It's been a bumpy start but Hughes has shown flexibility and managerial nous to steer us through. No doubt given out a few bollockings along the way. All mainly gravy still for me.
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Jan 14, 2017 22:52:43 GMT
Post by Gods on Jan 14, 2017 22:52:43 GMT
We're doing fine, it doesn't feel like it because we fucked up in both cups and haven't taken a decent scalp since 2015 hence the low excitement quotient and consequent unease.
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Jan 15, 2017 0:07:19 GMT
Post by richardparker on Jan 15, 2017 0:07:19 GMT
It was a very good win and, more importantly, a very much-needed win. I don't want to sound negative immediately after a win of that nature, but it still doesn't change a great deal for me. We've still only beaten Watford, Burnley and the three worst teams in the division all season. I thought that we would push on when we went on our little run in October and won three in a row and stayed unbeaten in six. But we didn't manage to do that. We seriously do need to push on now and take a healthy number of points out of West Brom, Everton and Palace, or we won't stay in the top half for very long and all the criticisms will come straight back again. Yeah, ... we only seem to win against the teams below us. What a disaster! We're 9th for a reason ... Could it be that at this moment in time, the 8 teams above are playing better than us?
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Jan 15, 2017 0:20:15 GMT
Post by BuzzB on Jan 15, 2017 0:20:15 GMT
If you take a look at the table tonight, ignore the fuckwits who are temporarily directly above us, then take in the names of the teams from 1-7 then we are probably at a place where its as good as it will get, for now. Not such a calamitous season so far then, but could be so much better, ie Wolves. Its all about showing a bit of consistency.
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Jan 15, 2017 0:26:39 GMT
Post by cheeesfreeex on Jan 15, 2017 0:26:39 GMT
We're doing fine, it doesn't feel like it because we fucked up in both cups and haven't taken a decent scalp since 2015 hence the low excitement quotient and consequent unease. Yes mate, Cup dump outs are always a gutter. Last saturday afternoon was a very low ebb. Saying no decent scalp since 2015 is perhaps accurate in the Prem, but still a little harsh imo considering a LCup semi and several creditable draws and performances. And we ain't faced them all this season yet. In the same period we've won at Anfield, drawn at OT, Stamford Bridge and against Arsenal. It might not have been remarkable but I hold on to the belief that we'ce got a solid platform to kick on for the remainder.
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Jan 15, 2017 1:41:20 GMT
Post by jzime on Jan 15, 2017 1:41:20 GMT
It was a very good win and, more importantly, a very much-needed win. I don't want to sound negative immediately after a win of that nature, but it still doesn't change a great deal for me. We've still only beaten Watford, Burnley and the three worst teams in the division all season. I thought that we would push on when we went on our little run in October and won three in a row and stayed unbeaten in six. But we didn't manage to do that. We seriously do need to push on now and take a healthy number of points out of West Brom, Everton and Palace, or we won't stay in the top half for very long and all the criticisms will come straight back again. I don't want to sound negative But I will anyway !! Well, no. I sincerely want us to push on now and consolidate our position in the top half of the table.
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Jan 15, 2017 10:36:56 GMT
Post by Gods on Jan 15, 2017 10:36:56 GMT
We're doing fine, it doesn't feel like it because we fucked up in both cups and haven't taken a decent scalp since 2015 hence the low excitement quotient and consequent unease. Yes mate, Cup dump outs are always a gutter. Last saturday afternoon was a very low ebb. Saying no decent scalp since 2015 is perhaps accurate in the Prem, but still a little harsh imo considering a LCup semi and several creditable draws and performances. And we ain't faced them all this season yet. In the same period we've won at Anfield, drawn at OT, Stamford Bridge and against Arsenal. It might not have been remarkable but I hold on to the belief that we'ce got a solid platform to kick on for the remainder. Yes, cup exits, I've lost count of the number I've lived through but early or late they come in the end and they don't get any easier!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2017 10:56:40 GMT
Hughes' only 'problem' is he has made finishing top half look so easy; everyone seems to expect it as a matter of course now. Anyone asking for him to go during this season is mad. Why chuck away what will be a comfortable mid table finish to open up a real possibility of relegation if the new manager ends up not gelling with the new squad?
Whether he's done all he can at the club and if it's time to get a new manager (similar to Pulis really) in the summer is open to debate. But, can anyone think of a manager who could take our club with its small budget and push us on to say a team who is guaranteed 7th with a chance of flirting with the top 6, or achieve the same in the league with a more than a semi final appearance once in 4 years in the cups? The only suggestions I've seen are Dyche, which seems absurd to me, and Villas Bollas, but he strikes me as man who'd rather earn easier money around Europe or China than try to build something at a mid table Premier League team.
For me the only real solution if we are serious about pushing on is spending big. Foreign billionaire takeovers seem to work much less often than people think though, with Man City, Chelsea and Southampton being probably the only 3 that have left the club in a better long term place than before the buy out.
Personally I think the fan base would be a lot happier if they just enjoyed the ride instead of spending half their time watching the matches finding someone to blame for a supposed crisis. We will lose by 4 goals to teams who can afford to spend 30 million on a player and not be too upset out it doesn't work out on occasion, sometimes we will beat them (As for Palace, surely we can forgive one pasting by a mid table team considering we've done it to others before?) It's just the way it is and isn't going to change any time soon, because believe it or not there aren't millions of people around the world buying a Stoke City shirt with Allen on the back.
Anyway, enough chatter for one day. If Mark Hughes goes in the summer (which seems to be a popular move from all the online posts I've seen) I for one will be grateful to him for what he's done in his 4 seasons here. And I just hope that some serious thought has gone into where to move on to from there, as I can't really see much room for progress myself without at least 100 million being spent.
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Post by roylandstoke on Jan 15, 2017 10:58:33 GMT
We had a very poor start to the season and have dropped about 5 points at home that we really should have won (Bournemouth. WBA and Leicester) yet we are still 9th.
We have decent players and a decent manager. To say otherwise is agenda driven nonsense.
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