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Post by 1982stokie on Jan 28, 2017 11:46:52 GMT
Let's pray that it's China and they've found £50m behind the sofa. Would be ace but I get the impression with them it's not just the skills of the player but the club they come from otherwise Bojan would be the same value as Oscar. What about that lad from Watford
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 28, 2017 11:48:03 GMT
The Chinese have bid £27 million for Ighalo so if its China why would the fee be any different?
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 28, 2017 11:48:13 GMT
12m+ or its Scholes out and that's being kind on the bean counter as it should be 15 really. 15m for a player who has failed at every club he's been at? Get real.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 28, 2017 11:50:05 GMT
12m+ or its Scholes out and that's being kind on the bean counter as it should be 15 really. 15m for a player who has failed at every club he's been at? Get real. It's his value in this market. His record here has been very good. And we won't get a player in who can do what he can do for less. We have to sell for 8 figures. Anything less is a failure.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jan 28, 2017 11:50:21 GMT
The "in principle" bit intrigues me, does that mean we want a replacement first before letting him go? or is that SL&P covering their arse in case he doesn't actually go?
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 28, 2017 11:51:22 GMT
12m+ or its Scholes out and that's being kind on the bean counter as it should be 15 really. 15m for a player who has failed at every club he's been at? Get real. Bayern is absolutely spot on with this imo,if we get less than £12 million the club want fucking
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Post by dutchstokie on Jan 28, 2017 11:52:49 GMT
The "in principle" bit intrigues me, does that mean we want a replacement first before letting him go? or is that SL&P covering their arse in case he doesn't actually go? Do we really need to 'replace' if he indeed does go? I would hope we would be looking at balancing out the squad, and investing in other more important areas.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 28, 2017 11:54:17 GMT
15m for a player who has failed at every club he's been at? Get real. It's his value in this market. His record here has been very good. And we won't get a player in who can do what he can do for less. We have to sell for 8 figures. Anything less is a failure. He hasn't had a good game all season. His record here is average at best. We paid under 500k for him. If we get anywhere close to 10m it is great business on a player who simply isn't as good as his reputation would have people believe. A huge profit on a player who doesn't want to be here and hasn't produced a single decent performance all season would be great credit to the transfer team.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 28, 2017 11:55:08 GMT
Surely £10m+ is only a possibility in the absolutely crazy overheated Premier League economy?
If he's not staying in England, just can't see that type of fee floating around for someone like him.
Going to be less than £10m if it's Spain, you'd think?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 28, 2017 11:57:12 GMT
It's his value in this market. His record here has been very good. And we won't get a player in who can do what he can do for less. We have to sell for 8 figures. Anything less is a failure. He hasn't had a good game all season. His record here is average at best. We paid under 500k for him. If we get anywhere close to 10m it is great business on a player who simply isn't as good as his reputation would have people believe. A huge profit on a player who doesn't want to be here and hasn't produced a single decent performance all season would be great credit to the transfer team. He was mom vs Leicester.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 28, 2017 11:58:45 GMT
Surely £10m+ is only a possibility in the absolutely crazy overheated Premier League economy? If he's not staying in England, just can't see that type of fee floating around for someone like him. Going to be less than £10m if it's Spain, you'd think? Yup so Scholes gets both barrels for woefully underselling our players yet again.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2017 12:02:05 GMT
12m+ or its Scholes out and that's being kind on the bean counter as it should be 15 really. 15m for a player who has failed at every club he's been at? Get real. He has most definitely not been a failure here, integral part of our only good run of games last season. He's an exceptional talent who's proved his worth, but isn't being played because the Manager got nervous.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2017 12:03:18 GMT
Surely £10m+ is only a possibility in the absolutely crazy overheated Premier League economy? If he's not staying in England, just can't see that type of fee floating around for someone like him. Going to be less than £10m if it's Spain, you'd think? Yup so Scholes gets both barrels for woefully underselling our players yet again. I'm sure what you think really bothers him.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 28, 2017 12:04:07 GMT
Yup so Scholes gets both barrels for woefully underselling our players yet again. I'm sure what you think really bothers him. It won't. But it should do. He gets away with murder.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 28, 2017 12:04:26 GMT
He hasn't had a good game all season. His record here is average at best. We paid under 500k for him. If we get anywhere close to 10m it is great business on a player who simply isn't as good as his reputation would have people believe. A huge profit on a player who doesn't want to be here and hasn't produced a single decent performance all season would be great credit to the transfer team. He was mom vs Leicester. Only in the figments of your imagination. Just because you keep repeating it doesn't make it true. His market value is what someone is prepared to pay for him and unless its China, I can't see anyone paying anything remotely silly.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 28, 2017 12:06:07 GMT
15m for a player who has failed at every club he's been at? Get real. He has most definitely not been a failure here, integral part of our only good run of games last season. He's an exceptional talent who's proved his worth, but isn't being played because the Manager got nervous. Rubbish. He isn't playing because he doesn't deserve to be playing.
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Post by liamo on Jan 28, 2017 12:06:46 GMT
It's his value in this market. His record here has been very good. And we won't get a player in who can do what he can do for less. We have to sell for 8 figures. Anything less is a failure. He hasn't had a good game all season. His record here is average at best. We paid under 500k for him. If we get anywhere close to 10m it is great business on a player who simply isn't as good as his reputation would have people believe. A huge profit on a player who doesn't want to be here and hasn't produced a single decent performance all season would be great credit to the transfer team. Stoke are an average team.... 3 goals in 9 games (4 off the bench) as a midfielder, Arnie has 3 goals 2 assists in 18 games The Stats don't tell us everything but Bojan hasn't been as bad as people claim, the whole team has had some real shit performances this season and one player doesn't lose us a game Bojan being on the pitch has a knock on effect, as in any midfield 3 of Bojan + 2 defensive midfielders looks piss weak and gets overrun... but not because of Bojan, yet he's the one who has had to make way due to Sparky fucking up and failing to bring in an adequate Zonz replacement Bojan leaving solves nothing, as of the moment Bojan leaves we have ONE option in that No.10 role and it's Allen, amazing player but he's not playing No.10 because he's the second coming of Pele, he's playing there because if he doesn't our (lack of) defensive midfield gets overrun and we get fucked badly, it's why we've only beaten shit teams this season, our midfield has been able to cope with their below average midfielders
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Post by WhyDelilah on Jan 28, 2017 12:08:48 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 28, 2017 12:08:51 GMT
Only in the figments of your imagination. Just because you keep repeating it doesn't make it true. His market value is what someone is prepared to pay for him and unless its China, I can't see anyone paying anything remotely silly. He clearly was and you clearly hate the bloke and keep insisting things that just aren't true and in fact are laughable (his social media etc). We're in a market where Championship nobodies are having 15m bid for them and Vale fans are moaning that they're not getting a million quid for their keeper. This is the current environment. And we have fans that would be OK for us selling one of our better attackers and most consistent goal scorer from midfield for peanuts. That's why Scholes gets away with how he runs the club. It's a joke.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 28, 2017 12:09:54 GMT
He hasn't had a good game all season. His record here is average at best. We paid under 500k for him. If we get anywhere close to 10m it is great business on a player who simply isn't as good as his reputation would have people believe. A huge profit on a player who doesn't want to be here and hasn't produced a single decent performance all season would be great credit to the transfer team. Stoke are an average team.... 3 goals in 9 games (4 off the bench) as a midfielder, Arnie has 3 goals 2 assists in 18 games The Stats don't tell us everything but Bojan hasn't been as bad as people claim, the whole team has had some real shit performances this season and one player doesn't lose us a game Bojan being on the pitch has a knock on effect, as in any midfield 3 of Bojan + 2 defensive midfielders looks piss weak and gets overrun... but not because of Bojan, yet he's the one who has had to make way due to Sparky fucking up and failing to bring in an adequate Zonz replacement Bojan leaving solves nothing, as of the moment Bojan leaves we have ONE option in that No.10 role and it's Allen, amazing player but he's not playing No.10 because he's the second coming of Pele, he's playing there because if he doesn't our (lack of) defensive midfield gets overrun and we get fucked badly, it's why we've only beaten shit teams this season, our midfield has been able to cope with their below average midfielders Doesn't say much for this genius then given that he can't get into the average team you describe.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 28, 2017 12:10:12 GMT
Only in the figments of your imagination. Just because you keep repeating it doesn't make it true. His market value is what someone is prepared to pay for him and unless its China, I can't see anyone paying anything remotely silly. Dave you're having a laugh mate surely?Just look at some of the prices paid for players of late,yesterday for instance Patrick Van Arnholt £14 fuckin million😮If we don't get the price he's worth he should stay and tough it out.The under valuation at our club is SCANDALOUS
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 28, 2017 12:11:46 GMT
Stoke are an average team.... 3 goals in 9 games (4 off the bench) as a midfielder, Arnie has 3 goals 2 assists in 18 games The Stats don't tell us everything but Bojan hasn't been as bad as people claim, the whole team has had some real shit performances this season and one player doesn't lose us a game Bojan being on the pitch has a knock on effect, as in any midfield 3 of Bojan + 2 defensive midfielders looks piss weak and gets overrun... but not because of Bojan, yet he's the one who has had to make way due to Sparky fucking up and failing to bring in an adequate Zonz replacement Bojan leaving solves nothing, as of the moment Bojan leaves we have ONE option in that No.10 role and it's Allen, amazing player but he's not playing No.10 because he's the second coming of Pele, he's playing there because if he doesn't our (lack of) defensive midfield gets overrun and we get fucked badly, it's why we've only beaten shit teams this season, our midfield has been able to cope with their below average midfielders Doesn't say much for this genius then given that he can't get into the average team you describe. It says more about the manager.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2017 12:12:44 GMT
Only in the figments of your imagination. Just because you keep repeating it doesn't make it true. His market value is what someone is prepared to pay for him and unless its China, I can't see anyone paying anything remotely silly. Dave you're having a laugh mate surely?Just look at some of the prices paid for players of late,yesterday for instance Patrick Van Arnholt £14 fuckin million😮If we don't get the price he's worth he should stay and tough it out.The under valuation at our club is SCANDALOUS I think that says more about Palace and Allardyce!
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 28, 2017 12:14:00 GMT
Dave you're having a laugh mate surely?Just look at some of the prices paid for players of late,yesterday for instance Patrick Van Arnholt £14 fuckin million😮If we don't get the price he's worth he should stay and tough it out.The under valuation at our club is SCANDALOUS I think that says more about Palace and Allardyce! Maybe so mate but it's yet another example of a club getting transfer fees for players that our club can only dream of
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Post by mrcoke on Jan 28, 2017 12:15:06 GMT
Why should we be bothered how much money Stoke get for a player?
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Post by pottersrule on Jan 28, 2017 12:16:11 GMT
12m+ or its Scholes out and that's being kind on the bean counter as it should be 15 really. We will get what the market dictates.Where does this arbitrary figure of £12 million come from?The situation is such that both parties now favour seperation, so it is not in the interest of either party to prolong it for to long. If there are several teams competing for his signature we will get more obviously. To say that that Scholes needs sacking if we sell him for less than £12 million isn't very fair when you aren't party to what is going on behind the scenes.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 28, 2017 12:16:51 GMT
Why should we be bothered how much money Stoke get for a player? If we all had that attitude then why do we bother full stop?Because we care I'd imagine
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 28, 2017 12:17:09 GMT
Only in the figments of your imagination. Just because you keep repeating it doesn't make it true. His market value is what someone is prepared to pay for him and unless its China, I can't see anyone paying anything remotely silly. He clearly was and you clearly hate the bloke and keep insisting things that just aren't true and in fact are laughable (his social media etc). We're in a market where Championship nobodies are having 15m bid for them and Vale fans are moaning that they're not getting a million quid for their keeper. This is the current environment. And we have fans that would be OK for us selling one of our better attackers and most consistent goal scorer from midfield for peanuts. That's why Scholes gets away with how he runs the club. It's a joke. I don't hate him at all. That is absolute rubbish. We are looking at selling a player who doesn't want to be here, who at best has had 1 good 45 minutes all season and a player who isn't attracting interest from any club that has got more than two pennies to rub together. If I was to sell my house, it would be worth what someone is willing to pay for it. Same applies to bojan. He will be worth what we get for him because no fucker else will pay anymore. Based on his performances this season, I'm surprised there is any interest in him at all.
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Post by Pugsley on Jan 28, 2017 12:17:20 GMT
Only in the figments of your imagination. Just because you keep repeating it doesn't make it true. His market value is what someone is prepared to pay for him and unless its China, I can't see anyone paying anything remotely silly. He clearly was and you clearly hate the bloke and keep insisting things that just aren't true and in fact are laughable (his social media etc). We're in a market where Championship nobodies are having 15m bid for them and Vale fans are moaning that they're not getting a million quid for their keeper. This is the current environment. And we have fans that would be OK for us selling one of our better attackers and most consistent goal scorer from midfield for peanuts. That's why Scholes gets away with how he runs the club. It's a joke. 1 million percent correct and I hate agreeing with you on anything! It's not only Scholes though, SCFC have a long history of letting players go on the cheap. Other clubs know it.
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Post by pottersrule on Jan 28, 2017 12:17:35 GMT
He hasn't had a good game all season. His record here is average at best. We paid under 500k for him. If we get anywhere close to 10m it is great business on a player who simply isn't as good as his reputation would have people believe. A huge profit on a player who doesn't want to be here and hasn't produced a single decent performance all season would be great credit to the transfer team. He was mom vs Leicester. Had plenty of time in his free role v 10 men though.
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