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Post by robwahlmann on Jan 7, 2017 16:59:14 GMT
...on Bojan, Imbula and Shaq!?
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Post by cozmick on Jan 7, 2017 17:00:21 GMT
10 million between them and not a single penny more.
Awful spending from Hughes and co.
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Post by jimigoodwinsbeard on Jan 7, 2017 17:02:43 GMT
10 million between them and not a single penny more. Awful spending from Hughes and co. Hindsight eh?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2017 17:03:08 GMT
£3.65
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Post by stokecitydom on Jan 7, 2017 17:03:53 GMT
Instead of all this nonsense about selling our technically better players, we should be looking at the manager and coaching staff.
Unfortunately, this past 12 months have been a shambles. We seem to change plan from week to week, with no clear direction of where we are heading and how we want to play.
One week it's pass, pass & pass, achieving very little, the next week it's route one to Crouch and hope for the best. I really haven't got a clue of what we are trying to achieve. It's all abit of a mess.
This squad is decent & should be performing a lot better than it is.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Jan 7, 2017 17:04:26 GMT
A wrights pie!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2017 17:04:45 GMT
Why not make them work in the side, instead? That would be more valuable.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2017 17:04:57 GMT
25,643 chicken chow meins with plastic knives and forks and a few of those horrible styrofoam plates.
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Post by stokeoptimist on Jan 7, 2017 17:06:08 GMT
Instead of all this nonsense about selling our technically better players, we should be looking at the manager and coaching staff. Unfortunately, this past 12 months have been a shambles. We seem to change plan from week to week, with no clear direction of where we are heading and how we want to play. One week it's pass, pass & pass, achieving very little, the next week it's route one to Crouch and hope for the best. I really haven't got a clue of what we are trying to achieve. It's all abit of a mess. This squad is decent & should be performing a lot better than it is. And yet still only 1 point behind ninth eh? Not bad!
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Jan 7, 2017 17:06:09 GMT
Instead of all this nonsense about selling our technically better players, we should be looking at the manager and coaching staff. Unfortunately, this past 12 months have been a shambles. We seem to change plan from week to week, with no clear direction of where we are heading and how we want to play. One week it's pass, pass & pass, achieving very little, the next week it's route one to Crouch and hope for the best. I really haven't got a clue of what we are trying to achieve. It's all abit of a mess. This squad is decent & should be performing a lot better than it is. The "technically better players" are as much to blame as Hughes make no mistake!!!
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Post by liathroid on Jan 7, 2017 17:06:19 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2017 17:06:29 GMT
...on Bojan, Imbula and Shaq!? Bojan - £3-4m - big famous name, someone would be willing to take the punt Shaqiri - £7-8m - same as Bojan, big famous name and still fairly young Imbula - £2m - not a big famous name, better off holding on and hoping he stops being a bag of wank Of course that's all dependant on some bright spark out there looking at Bojan/Shaqiri and seeing how they could fit into a system. Something I'm not entirely sure Hughes does before going out and assembling his mish mash squads.
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Post by wuzza on Jan 7, 2017 17:07:12 GMT
Why not make them work in the side, instead? That would be more valuable. And the players input into this is what ? They are not kids - they know what is required but they seem either incapable or worse still are playing silly beggars.
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Jan 7, 2017 17:09:27 GMT
The 65p I can see but who would spend the other three squid?
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Post by stokecitydom on Jan 7, 2017 17:10:07 GMT
Instead of all this nonsense about selling our technically better players, we should be looking at the manager and coaching staff. Unfortunately, this past 12 months have been a shambles. We seem to change plan from week to week, with no clear direction of where we are heading and how we want to play. One week it's pass, pass & pass, achieving very little, the next week it's route one to Crouch and hope for the best. I really haven't got a clue of what we are trying to achieve. It's all abit of a mess. This squad is decent & should be performing a lot better than it is. And yet still only 1 point behind ninth eh? Not bad! It's a reflection on the quality of the league. You have the top 6, then the rest of us. We should be performing better than we are. We do look abit of a mess and have done for 12 months.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2017 17:10:12 GMT
The 65p I can see but who would spend the other three squid? West ham
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2017 17:10:12 GMT
Why not make them work in the side, instead? That would be more valuable. And the players input into this is what ? They are not kids - they know what is required but they seem either incapable or worse still are playing silly beggars. They know what is required. They go out and do what they're told, surely?
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Post by geoffscott on Jan 7, 2017 17:12:25 GMT
10 million between them and not a single penny more. Awful spending from Hughes and co. Any guesses for who said this just 12 months ago.... NOT FOR SALE!!!! The words coming from Sparkys mouth throughout January I hope. Arnie, Bojan, Shaqiri, Butland, Cameron.......wonderful football from those lads today once again. We're gonna have a fair few clubs come sniffing. FUCK OFF!
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Post by neddy on Jan 7, 2017 17:13:12 GMT
It's clear Imbula is just not interested by his demeanour and Bojan wants out.....nothing on Twitter off him I have seen of late? Shaqiri his actions after Soton clearly sparked something and I am mindful re Johnson re why he doesn't say he is happy if there is nothing's no in the West Ham thing?
Any others? Shawcross clealy unhappy......nothing mentioned re Bruno busting a gut to sign? We seem really at a turning point and the next couple of weeks will be insightful re who comes and goes?
Coates and Hughes I'm sure will be on yo it now we are out of the cup as I think he will back him........surely PC would know if players were kicking back at him?
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Post by stokecitydom on Jan 7, 2017 17:13:35 GMT
Instead of all this nonsense about selling our technically better players, we should be looking at the manager and coaching staff. Unfortunately, this past 12 months have been a shambles. We seem to change plan from week to week, with no clear direction of where we are heading and how we want to play. One week it's pass, pass & pass, achieving very little, the next week it's route one to Crouch and hope for the best. I really haven't got a clue of what we are trying to achieve. It's all abit of a mess. This squad is decent & should be performing a lot better than it is. The "technically better players" are as much to blame as Hughes make no mistake!!! You can't just put 11 players on a pitch and expect it to work. There needs to be a mixture. Desperately need a defensive midfielder & a pacey striker, as unfortunately we will always struggle when we have no pace in the team.
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Post by wuzza on Jan 7, 2017 17:14:43 GMT
And the players input into this is what ? They are not kids - they know what is required but they seem either incapable or worse still are playing silly beggars. They know what is required. They go out and do what they're told, surely? I'm sure they are but even if they had just been thrown out their and told to get on with I would have thought that international quality players who clearly have a reasonably high opinion of themselves should be able to cope with a Championship teams reserve side. I suggest the 3 players referred to are significantly flawed and in terms of the OP we would be lucky just to find someone to take over their very expensive contracts.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jan 7, 2017 17:15:27 GMT
On today's performance alone,fuck all.
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Jan 7, 2017 17:15:39 GMT
Pop em on Ebay!
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Jan 7, 2017 17:17:13 GMT
The "technically better players" are as much to blame as Hughes make no mistake!!! You can just put 11 players on a pitch and expect it to work. There needs to be a mixture. Desperately need a defensive midfielder & a pacey striker, as unfortunately we will always struggle when we have no pace in the team. Bang on, there's no pace or movement off the ball whatsoever, it's something that really infuriates me!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2017 17:18:30 GMT
Even Signal 2 are ripping into Imbula now.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2017 17:20:09 GMT
£20m easily
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Post by ryan4england on Jan 7, 2017 17:21:04 GMT
And people want him backed in the transfer window....
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Post by stokecitydom on Jan 7, 2017 17:25:28 GMT
You can just put 11 players on a pitch and expect it to work. There needs to be a mixture. Desperately need a defensive midfielder & a pacey striker, as unfortunately we will always struggle when we have no pace in the team. Bang on, there's no pace or movement off the ball whatsoever, it's something that really infuriates me!!! Hughes has had numerous transfer windows to resolve the striker situation, yet we still have no pace in the team. He has created an unbalanced squad, still doesn't know his best team & it's just a mess. All very frustrating, but just annoys me that the defeat will be blamed on a few players (who may deserve criticism), yet when looking at the bigger picture, it's the manager who is to blame.
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Post by redwhite on Jan 7, 2017 17:25:35 GMT
Maybe if we played them in a team that made sense and actually stuck with them through the good and bad we'd see their value. All of them are very talented, and have shown their talent in a Stoke shirt but they're constantly in and out of the team and the players around them are constantly changing.
Hughes bangs on about balance, but against Watford where we were dreadful he played one skillful player (Arnie) and a bunch of the old guard, and against these he plays the most skillful attacking trio we have, but adds even more skill and guile into midfield with Afellay and Imbula, neither of whom are defensive.
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Post by cozmick on Jan 7, 2017 17:27:02 GMT
10 million between them and not a single penny more. Awful spending from Hughes and co. Any guesses for who said this just 12 months ago.... NOT FOR SALE!!!! The words coming from Sparkys mouth throughout January I hope. Arnie, Bojan, Shaqiri, Butland, Cameron.......wonderful football from those lads today once again. We're gonna have a fair few clubs come sniffing. FUCK OFF! Funny. 12 months ago was Hughes' peak, it was all crash and burn from then.
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