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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Dec 18, 2016 16:12:40 GMT
There were rumours going round the boothen yesterday of a 5m bid being tabled for bego, just saying, don't shoot the messanger
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Post by xchpotter on Dec 18, 2016 16:13:43 GMT
I'd like to think Jack had had the best medical intervention money can buy, but it does make you wonder how much pressure is being exerted to get him back sooner as opposed to just going for the guaranteed but longer term fix. It obviously must be a complicated injury.
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Dec 18, 2016 16:22:02 GMT
I'd like to think Jack had had the best medical intervention money can buy, but it does make you wonder how much pressure is being exerted to get him back sooner as opposed to just going for the guaranteed but longer term fix. It obviously must be a complicated injury. In all fairness, my wife broke her ankle 8 years ago, countless operations later she st I walks with a limp, although she had to make do with NHS surgery, where I would hope Jacko is getting the best that money could buy.
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Post by nott1 on Dec 18, 2016 17:00:08 GMT
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Post by nott1 on Dec 18, 2016 17:04:09 GMT
I'd like to think Jack had had the best medical intervention money can buy, but it does make you wonder how much pressure is being exerted to get him back sooner as opposed to just going for the guaranteed but longer term fix. It obviously must be a complicated injury. In all fairness, my wife broke her ankle 8 years ago, countless operations later she st I walks with a limp, although she had to make do with NHS surgery, where I would hope Jacko is getting the best that money could buy. Same surgeons do the private ops too, hence waiting lists!
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Post by wuzza on Dec 18, 2016 17:22:33 GMT
This whole Butland thing has got such a 'typical Stoke' feel to me. Whenever we are on the verge of something significant things go totally pear shaped. Going back over the decades - We lose Sir Stan for the best years of his career over a series of stupid decisions and personality clashes. We lose potentially the best centre half ever when Franklin goes off on some silly arsed caper to South America. Gordon Banks' car crash robs us of a good few years of the best keeper in the world. The stand blows down and a potentially title challenging set up is torn apart. It's a bit OTT I know but I was quietly thinking that we had the makings of a world class player on our hands here and what happens ...... Hope this has a happy ending but the pessimist in me is taking over as far as Jacks career is concerned.
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Post by nott1 on Dec 18, 2016 17:54:46 GMT
This whole Butland thing has got such a 'typical Stoke' feel to me. Whenever we are on the verge of something significant things go totally pear shaped. Going back over the decades - We lose Sir Stan for the best years of his career over a series of stupid decisions and personality clashes. We lose potentially the best centre half ever when Franklin goes off on some silly arsed caper to South America. Gordon Banks' car crash robs us of a good few years of the best keeper in the world. The stand blows down and a potentially title challenging set up is torn apart. It's a bit OTT I know but I was quietly thinking that we had the makings of a world class player on our hands here and what happens ...... Hope this has a happy ending but the pessimist in me is taking over as far as Jacks career is concerned. If only we had a gas oven......
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Post by wuzza on Dec 18, 2016 18:13:18 GMT
This whole Butland thing has got such a 'typical Stoke' feel to me. Whenever we are on the verge of something significant things go totally pear shaped. Going back over the decades - We lose Sir Stan for the best years of his career over a series of stupid decisions and personality clashes. We lose potentially the best centre half ever when Franklin goes off on some silly arsed caper to South America. Gordon Banks' car crash robs us of a good few years of the best keeper in the world. The stand blows down and a potentially title challenging set up is torn apart. It's a bit OTT I know but I was quietly thinking that we had the makings of a world class player on our hands here and what happens ...... Hope this has a happy ending but the pessimist in me is taking over as far as Jacks career is concerned. If only we had a gas oven...... We took the precaution of going electric many years ago after the Blyth Spartans game!
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Post by pottersrule on Dec 18, 2016 18:20:48 GMT
I wonder what the surgery was? I had ankle arthoscopy recently and wore a boot like Jack had on for a couple of weeks . Hopefully they have just cleaned out the ankle as they did with me,after i was still struggling after my ankle fracture.I do manual work and was off a fortnight.
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Post by Fred Ferret on Dec 18, 2016 18:24:50 GMT
This whole Butland thing has got such a 'typical Stoke' feel to me. Whenever we are on the verge of something significant things go totally pear shaped. Going back over the decades - We lose Sir Stan for the best years of his career over a series of stupid decisions and personality clashes. We lose potentially the best centre half ever when Franklin goes off on some silly arsed caper to South America. Gordon Banks' car crash robs us of a good few years of the best keeper in the world. The stand blows down and a potentially title challenging set up is torn apart. It's a bit OTT I know but I was quietly thinking that we had the makings of a world class player on our hands here and what happens ...... Hope this has a happy ending but the pessimist in me is taking over as far as Jacks career is concerned. If only we had a gas oven...... Sorry mate, I've just hired it out to the gooooooners!
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Post by Miles Offside on Dec 18, 2016 20:21:58 GMT
There were rumours going round the boothen yesterday of a 5m bid being tabled for bego, just saying, don't shoot the messanger If, that's IF, Jack is going to be out long term, then that would be a great signing if we could get him for that price. Or Joe Hart might be tempted back here. I think he's still got a place in Cheshire.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Dec 18, 2016 23:56:51 GMT
Derby Will be upping their price for Grant now then.
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Post by bristolpotter123 on Dec 19, 2016 11:45:44 GMT
I seriously broke my ankle 25 years ago playing football , they put it back together with a plate and bolts , I still play footy , admittedly 7 a side on astro , at 60 . I ski and do other exercise . From time to time it hurts , it certainly did when I first came back to playing. My point is that modern footballers expect to be pain free , maybe there should be more playing through the pain especially on the wages they are paid
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Post by nutterpotter on Dec 21, 2016 22:40:29 GMT
Another 2 to 3 months out
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Dec 21, 2016 22:46:21 GMT
fuck sake
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Post by cobhamstokey on Dec 21, 2016 22:49:18 GMT
Feel for the lad. One things for sure we need to either get Grant in soon or get someone good in 1st week of Jan or were in big trouble.
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Post by lagwafis on Dec 21, 2016 23:13:17 GMT
On the subject of Begovic, have Chelsea been linked with another goalkeeper at all?
It just seems unlikely they'd be willing to move out their second choice keeper should anything happen to Courtois, especially with Eduardo being linked with a move to Spain + also talking about retirement the other week.
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 21, 2016 23:14:00 GMT
Surely,with this news, we're in 'need to sign Grant PLUS another keeper in January' territory now.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 21, 2016 23:27:22 GMT
Yup has to be 2 keepers in January.
I still think the rumours about an Ashton like injury aren't far off but that's my gut speaking. It just stinks and has done for a long time.
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Post by flea79 on Dec 21, 2016 23:46:31 GMT
Send the invoice to the FA they were responsible for him and may cost us a massive amount of money long term
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Post by stantheman on Dec 21, 2016 23:47:25 GMT
We'll be doing well if he's fit for August. I'd seriously look at Bego on loan. Butland's injury is very similar to the one Dean Ashton got whilst on England duty, that ended his career.
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Post by flea79 on Dec 21, 2016 23:55:49 GMT
Just saw on one of the Facebook pages about injuries to the squad and hampered rehabilitation, before the start of the season I started a thread on a link made between these hybrid synthetic pitches and higher frequency of injury occurring, these pitches have gone it at Clayton woods too, must surely be some sort of correlation? Or am I in conspiracy mode?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 21, 2016 23:58:55 GMT
Just saw on one of the Facebook pages about injuries to the squad and hampered rehabilitation, before the start of the season I started a thread on a link made between these hybrid synthetic pitches and higher frequency of injury occurring, these pitches have gone it at Clayton woods too, must surely be some sort of correlation? Or am I in conspiracy mode? It's been happening under Hughes before the pitches hasn't it? The muscle injuries we've had under him are something else and this is the third season of injury crises. The impact injuries are unfortunate but we've had loads of injuries that shouldn't occur. It's no coincidence.
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Post by flea79 on Dec 22, 2016 0:00:54 GMT
Just saw on one of the Facebook pages about injuries to the squad and hampered rehabilitation, before the start of the season I started a thread on a link made between these hybrid synthetic pitches and higher frequency of injury occurring, these pitches have gone it at Clayton woods too, must surely be some sort of correlation? Or am I in conspiracy mode? It's been happening under Hughes before the pitches hasn't it? The muscle injuries we've had under him are something else and this is the third season of injury crises. The impact injuries are unfortunate but we've had loads of injuries that shouldn't occur. It's no coincidence. Proof of the theory should be Affelay and if he suffers some sort of setback, just seems crazy that there is evidence of these pitches being more dangerous to a player yet we install them, as I remember Arsenal have used them for many years and look at the frequency and severity of injuries they suffer
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Dec 22, 2016 0:02:48 GMT
Just saw on one of the Facebook pages about injuries to the squad and hampered rehabilitation, before the start of the season I started a thread on a link made between these hybrid synthetic pitches and higher frequency of injury occurring, these pitches have gone it at Clayton woods too, must surely be some sort of correlation? Or am I in conspiracy mode? It's been happening under Hughes before the pitches hasn't it? The muscle injuries we've had under him are something else and this is the third season of injury crises. The impact injuries are unfortunate but we've had loads of injuries that shouldn't occur. It's no coincidence. So who in yr mind fall within the avoidable injury category this season?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 22, 2016 0:03:17 GMT
It's been happening under Hughes before the pitches hasn't it? The muscle injuries we've had under him are something else and this is the third season of injury crises. The impact injuries are unfortunate but we've had loads of injuries that shouldn't occur. It's no coincidence. Proof of the theory should be Affelay and if he suffers some sort of setback, just seems crazy that there is evidence of these pitches being more dangerous to a player yet we install them, as I remember Arsenal have used them for many years and look at the frequency and severity of injuries they suffer Afellay is injury prone anyway so you'd expect some form of setback. But signing that sort of player doesn't help either. The injuries in the last 3 years have been ridiculous and aren't bad luck.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 22, 2016 0:05:20 GMT
It's been happening under Hughes before the pitches hasn't it? The muscle injuries we've had under him are something else and this is the third season of injury crises. The impact injuries are unfortunate but we've had loads of injuries that shouldn't occur. It's no coincidence. So who in yr mind fall within the avoidable injury category this season? Any of Shaq's. Any muscle injury. They will happen but the regularity they happen under Hughes is mind boggling. The training can't be good for them. And then we have the whole 'he's out for a week' and a month later they're still injured. The whole thing with injuries wreaks and has done for years now. Something isn't right.
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Post by march4 on Dec 22, 2016 0:06:33 GMT
Have to sign Bego now.
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Post by flea79 on Dec 22, 2016 0:06:51 GMT
Proof of the theory should be Affelay and if he suffers some sort of setback, just seems crazy that there is evidence of these pitches being more dangerous to a player yet we install them, as I remember Arsenal have used them for many years and look at the frequency and severity of injuries they suffer Afellay is injury prone anyway so you'd expect some form of setback. But signing that sort of player doesn't help either. The injuries in the last 3 years have been ridiculous and aren't bad luck. No I agree but our pre season is very different now, the capped one used to make them run up and down mountains in Austria for 2 weeks and worked on fitness and conditioning etc I think that is now left to players to look after and we look to train with a ball, don't claim to be itk at all so I might be wrong Maybe just maybe the club should be looking at what's going on here, these are million pound investments that are going down the drain and I'm pretty sure when a serious investor has money in stocks and shares etc and they fail or don't perform he investigates
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 22, 2016 0:10:08 GMT
Afellay is injury prone anyway so you'd expect some form of setback. But signing that sort of player doesn't help either. The injuries in the last 3 years have been ridiculous and aren't bad luck. No I agree but our pre season is very different now, the capped one used to make them run up and down mountains in Austria for 2 weeks and worked on fitness and conditioning etc I think that is now left to players to look after and we look to train with a ball, don't claim to be itk at all so I might be wrong Maybe just maybe the club should be looking at what's going on here, these are million pound investments that are going down the drain and I'm pretty sure when a serious investor has money in stocks and shares etc and they fail or don't perform he investigates I think TPs way was mad too. Both managers pre seasons seem to be on the extreme side. TPs seem too hard and Hughes' seem like a cake walk and leave us under cooked for 5/6 weeks. It definitely needs looking into. The injury situation for the last years isn't acceptable and neither are the slow starts.
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