Rastaman
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Post by Rastaman on Nov 1, 2016 6:13:41 GMT
He has good hands. Catches well. Confident as hell if you watch his body language. I would say e is hugely enjoying his time in goal. No coincidence that Ryan looked like the class act we all know he is again when Grant arrived in goal. No way at fault for Swansea's goal. That was all Bardsley
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Post by roostershair on Nov 1, 2016 12:33:00 GMT
The back four look better as well
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Post by walrus on Nov 1, 2016 12:37:01 GMT
He seems to be really enjoying himself at Stoke. His big celebration to the South Stand after our third goal was great to see, as are the congratulatory hugs he has had with Ryan and BMI after the final whistle these last few games.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2016 12:44:10 GMT
Haven't seen it back but thought he was poor for there goal, goes straight through his hands. Other then that he was faultless with some big big saves to boot. See it back then. His best chance of saving it would have been to try head it clear!
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Post by PotterLog on Nov 1, 2016 12:48:21 GMT
Rock solid again. I keep waiting for the big chink in the armour that's prevented him playing at the top level before to appear, but I haven't seen it so far. Long may it continue The chink in his armour is his refusal to come for crosses and his inability to dominate his 6 yard box. Failing to come for the ball cost us 2 points against WBA and could have cost us a penalty tonight. He is easily our best option while Butland is injured but we will be greatly improved with a fit Jack Butland back in the side. Oh I'm not for a second saying he's better than Jack. I just mean his career record had me fairly convinced he wouldn't good enough to be a consistent #2. So far he's confounding those expectations.
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Post by drjeffsdiscobarge on Nov 1, 2016 14:11:58 GMT
Said on the 'when butland is back' thread that hes already earned a contract with us in my humble.
Excellent again last night and i dont think he could do much with the goal.
Got a real cool, calm manner about him that has really injected some confidence into the back 4.
Almost as important to the upturn in fortunes as Joe.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2016 14:26:27 GMT
Haven't seen it back but thought he was poor for there goal, goes straight through his hands. Other then that he was faultless with some big big saves to boot. See it back then. His best chance of saving it would have been to try head it clear! I've seen it back a few times and to be honest I still think there's a split second when Sigurdsson crosses where he could have committed and thrown the kitchen sink at it. He's big and imposing and would have made it more difficult for Routledge if nothing else. I'm am being super critical though as all in all I think he's been excellent for us.....
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Post by rawli on Nov 1, 2016 14:27:25 GMT
Said to my Dad tonight that Grant has been key to our change in fortunes He seems a confident lad who is determine to have one last shot at the big time and it shows Not sure who 'unearthed' him but they get great kudos for it Andy Quy Goal keeper coach for years and has been pivotal in the signings of Sorrenson, Begovic, Butland and Grant Very underrated part of the back room staff Is he the bridge between the keepers and Mark and his team?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2016 15:55:55 GMT
Solid keeper. A little too slow off his line at times but that's the only slight criticism I have.
Very astute signing and should have been in there a lot earlier than he was.
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Post by senojbor on Nov 1, 2016 16:03:56 GMT
He's obviously better than a championship team's 2nd choice.
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Post by countofmontecristo on Nov 1, 2016 16:07:11 GMT
See it back then. His best chance of saving it would have been to try head it clear! I've seen it back a few times and to be honest I still think there's a split second when Sigurdsson crosses where he could have committed and thrown the kitchen sink at it. He's big and imposing and would have made it more difficult for Routledge if nothing else. I'm am being super critical though as all in all I think he's been excellent for us..... .... perhaps he expected Bards to out-muscle Routledge - I know I did!
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Post by Pugsley on Nov 1, 2016 16:07:36 GMT
Grant has surprised me as anytime I saw him on TV for Derby he usually chucked one in. Perhaps playing in front of better players is helping him? No idea but long may it continue.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2016 16:09:51 GMT
I've seen it back a few times and to be honest I still think there's a split second when Sigurdsson crosses where he could have committed and thrown the kitchen sink at it. He's big and imposing and would have made it more difficult for Routledge if nothing else. I'm am being super critical though as all in all I think he's been excellent for us..... .... perhaps he expected Bards to out-muscle Routledge - I know I did! Agree Bardsley was caught napping, but a keepers 6 yard box is his territory and they should be onto those situations in a flash. All good anyway we won and I'm being super critical......
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Nov 1, 2016 16:13:57 GMT
Solid keeper. A little too slow off his line at times but that's the only slight criticism I have. Very astute signing and should have been in there a lot earlier than he was.I know what you are saying but none of us knows how long it took to persuade Derby to let us have him - nor whether there were fruitless negotiations for other keepers when Butland broke down on the eve of the first game of the season. Personally, I'm gob smacked how good Grant has turned out to be. If you told me that we'd be able to find an experienced keeper(albeit not in the Prem) still at a good age who was surplus to requirements and whose club would release him on loan in August, I wouldn't have expected anyone near as good as Grant has turned out to be. It has to go down as one of the best bits of transfer business we have done in years - not as good as signing Allen for a "mere" £13 million, of course.
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Post by countofmontecristo on Nov 1, 2016 16:16:56 GMT
.... perhaps he expected Bards to out-muscle Routledge - I know I did! Agree Bardsley was caught napping, but a keepers 6 yard box is his territory and they should be onto those situations in a flash. All good anyway we won and I'm being super critical...... I agree. For the record I don't think Bards did much wrong either. He was there trying to do the right thing. Sometimes the flight of the ball just favours the attacker - I think it was a good cross and a good finish. I'd have thought it a very good goal if we'd scored it.
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Post by alster on Nov 1, 2016 16:18:53 GMT
Said to my Dad tonight that Grant has been key to our change in fortunes He seems a confident lad who is determine to have one last shot at the big time and it shows Not sure who 'unearthed' him but they get great kudos for it Andy Quy Goal keeper coach for years and has been pivotal in the signings of Sorrenson, Begovic, Butland and Grant Very underrated part of the back room staff Heard he was instrumental in Haugaard as well but one dodgy one out five ain't a bad strike rate.
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Nov 2, 2016 19:27:26 GMT
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Post by superheroantonius on Nov 2, 2016 19:27:26 GMT
How was he not getting the Derby County team?? I don't know but these things happen David platt couldn't get a kick at man Utd so moved to crewe Must have played over a hundred games for crewe before eventually setting down to play at the juventus / arsenal level :-)
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Post by AlliG on Nov 2, 2016 20:21:56 GMT
How was he not getting the Derby County team?? I don't know but these things happen David platt couldn't get a kick at man Utd so moved to crewe Must have played over a hundred games for crewe before eventually setting down to play at the juventus / arsenal level :-) It is not quite the same. David Platt was only 18 when he joined Crewe. I saw him make his home debut coming on as a sub and he was the poster boy for archetypal 8 stone weakling who got sand kicked in his face before taking the Charles Atlas bodybuilding course. (Showing my age there! ). It took him the best part of 18 months to develop in to the all action goalscoring midfielder. Goalkeepers in general are in a different position in that at least outfield players if they lose a bit of form (or get injured) usually get the chance to get back in the team as a substitute, whereas for a keeper the chance may not arise. Sometimes (as we have seen at Man City) a new manager just might not fancy him because one aspect of his game isn't to the level the manager requires. (Lou never really fancied Peter Fox and was always trying to replace him; with varying levels of success). In Grant's case maybe a change of scenery (or maybe a different type of defence or a lack of battering ram centre-forwards in the Premier League) has given him a fresh spark to raise his game?
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Post by CalgaryPotter on Nov 2, 2016 20:35:44 GMT
His weakness is his 6 yard area. It was a brilliant cross by Sigurdsson but Jack would have been on that in front of Routledge and Bardsley with at least a punch. Tommy of course would have just flattened the pair of them and got the foul
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teagles05
Youth Player
Football had always been my first drug from as early as I could remember
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Post by teagles05 on Nov 3, 2016 8:19:18 GMT
What a signing this bloke is, get him on a permanent deal in January! Noticed he's incredible when there is an awkward shot coming at him, some keepers like to knock it down to themselves then drop on it But everything that comes at him is secured straight away with little hassle. Not sure what Derby are doing but Scott Carson must be the greatest keeper to walk this earth. I know that Jack is a world class keeper, but would it be unfair for him to come straight back in?
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Post by lordb on Nov 3, 2016 9:56:28 GMT
I don't know but these things happen David platt couldn't get a kick at man Utd so moved to crewe Must have played over a hundred games for crewe before eventually setting down to play at the juventus / arsenal level :-) It is not quite the same. David Platt was only 18 when he joined Crewe. I saw him make his home debut coming on as a sub and he was the poster boy for archetypal 8 stone weakling who got sand kicked in his face before taking the Charles Atlas bodybuilding course. (Showing my age there! ). It took him the best part of 18 months to develop in to the all action goalscoring midfielder. Goalkeepers in general are in a different position in that at least outfield players if they lose a bit of form (or get injured) usually get the chance to get back in the team as a substitute, whereas for a keeper the chance may not arise. Sometimes (as we have seen at Man City) a new manager just might not fancy him because one aspect of his game isn't to the level the manager requires. (Lou never really fancied Peter Fox and was always trying to replace him; with varying levels of success). In Grant's case maybe a change of scenery (or maybe a different type of defence or a lack of battering ram centre-forwards in the Premier League) has given him a fresh spark to raise his game? Lou didn't fancy the bonus Fox was due for (500,or 400 can't remember) games. Fox,even at that age,was still an outstanding keeper way too good for division three. Lou did have a blind spot with keepers though
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Post by klingon on Nov 3, 2016 10:00:11 GMT
What's the lower limb equivalent of "ambidextrous". That's Lee Grant, that is.
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Post by Bera’s Beano on Nov 3, 2016 10:22:15 GMT
What a signing this bloke is, get him on a permanent deal in January! Noticed he's incredible when there is an awkward shot coming at him, some keepers like to knock it down to themselves then drop on it But everything that comes at him is secured straight away with little hassle. Not sure what Derby are doing but Scott Carson must be the greatest keeper to walk this earth. I know that Jack is a world class keeper, but would it be unfair for him to come straight back in? He tends to catch low between his legs with his hands, but keepers are always taught when learning to always make sure you get your body behind the ball too just in case. Causes me to have a mini heart attack every time he takes one of them but every single one has stuck and I have no doubt they will continue to, won't stop me having an instinctive heart attack though. He's been excellent, should be extending past January and looking to get him in permanently to solve the back up issue for a few years. He will have known when he signed and told by Mark Hughes that when Butland is fit he'll be his back up anyway and will have accepted it anyway.
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Post by thepopman on Nov 3, 2016 10:33:41 GMT
currently about sixth or seventh in line for England I'd guess.
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Post by klingon on Nov 3, 2016 10:49:36 GMT
In that case I'm fifth in line............and I have to sit down to take a piss.
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Nov 3, 2016 15:41:23 GMT
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Post by bertiestan on Nov 3, 2016 15:41:23 GMT
Andy Quy Goal keeper coach for years and has been pivotal in the signings of Sorrenson, Begovic, Butland and Grant Very underrated part of the back room staff Heard he was instrumental in Haugaard as well but one dodgy one out five ain't a bad strike rate. Sorensen recommended haugaard mate
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Lee Grant
Nov 3, 2016 22:24:14 GMT
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Post by choppercherry on Nov 3, 2016 22:24:14 GMT
How was he not getting the Derby County team?? I work with a few Derby fans and they reckon he is crap!
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Nov 4, 2016 0:18:04 GMT
How was he not getting the Derby County team?? I work with a few Derby fans and they reckon he is crap! Doesn't bayernoatcake have a bunch of cousins who support Derby?
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Post by okeydokeystokie2 on Nov 4, 2016 13:24:09 GMT
Said to my Dad tonight that Grant has been key to our change in fortunes He seems a confident lad who is determine to have one last shot at the big time and it shows Not sure who 'unearthed' him but they get great kudos for it Andy Quy Goal keeper coach for years and has been pivotal in the signings of Sorrenson, Begovic, Butland and Grant Very underrated part of the back room staff Andy Quy spent some time at Derby and maybe their paths crossed there. Quy earned praise form Bego I seem to remember. It's interesting because Eddie Neidzweicki was obviously a keeper too.
Sometimes selection is down to individual managers. Scott Carson was quite a big name for Derby - don't know if there was a fee involved, but sometimes I guess managers stick with their signings, and that keeper becomes the "number 1".
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2016 13:30:14 GMT
Haven't seen it back but thought he was poor for there goal, goes straight through his hands. Other then that he was faultless with some big big saves to boot. First time round thought he could of come out to cut out cross. Second time round it looks like he was in two minds to do so. The ball was a good one imo and gave the keeper a lot to think about in a split second. Not at fault for me.
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