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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 19, 2016 15:15:03 GMT
What without Joe Allenš®He's the only shining light He's been awful in the last two games. Cant agree with that mate but all about opinions
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 19, 2016 15:16:14 GMT
He's been awful in the last two games. Cant agree with that mate but all about opinions Dean Whiteheadesqe.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 19, 2016 15:17:02 GMT
Cant agree with that mate but all about opinions Dean Whiteheadesqe. Have you got your tin hat readyš
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Post by jezzascfc on Sept 19, 2016 15:19:38 GMT
Grant (if looks up to it in the cup game)
Johnson Shawcross Indi Pieters
Cameron Allen
Arnautovic Bojan Ramadan
Bony
We need to bed in a settled back four. We need to drop Whelan and Walters. Geoff will give us a physical, athletic presence in front of the back four. Diouf to come on to run at tired legs for last 30 mins (for either Bojan or Ramadan).
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Post by jezzascfc on Sept 19, 2016 15:22:16 GMT
Cant agree with that mate but all about opinions Dean Whiteheadesqe. He has simply been guilty of trying to do too much as those around him failed to perform their roles adequately. He is one of the first names on the team sheet for me right now.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 19, 2016 15:29:13 GMT
He has simply been guilty of trying to do too much as those around him failed to perform their roles adequately. He is one of the first names on the team sheet for me right now. He's either got zero discipline or the role the manager wants him to play is wrong. He's getting caught too high up the pitch leaving Whelan on his own. Bojan was even covering for him at times yesterday. Hes currently part of the problem and massively so. The first goal too....if Imbula had let his man get past him that easy he'd be rightfully lambasted for it. It's not good enough.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 19, 2016 15:32:47 GMT
Grant (if looks up to it in the cup game) Johnson Shawcross Indi Pieters Cameron Allen Arnautovic Bojan Ramadan Bony We need to bed in a settled back four. We need to drop Whelan and Walters. Geoff will give us a physical, athletic presence in front of the back four. Diouf to come on to run at tired legs for last 30 mins (for either Bojan or Ramadan). Cameron isn't a DM he won't sit, it'll be one massive hole with him in there.
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Post by daveandeddy on Sept 19, 2016 15:39:19 GMT
Have you got your tin hat readyš If available GRANT / BACHMANN --- Preferable Bachmann as you can get a good song about him when he makes his first top save -- good chorus of you aint seen nothing yet JOHNSON PIETERS MARTINS INDI MUNIESA IMBULLA / ADAMS ALLEN BOJAN --- Is getting close to last chance saloon - but big believer in playing skill players where you can / SOBHI BONEY ARNOUTOVIC SOBHI / CROUCH --- Do we go 2 up front OR chance BOJAN AND SOBHI to feed BONEY ?? Lets put Pulis on the rack --- To do this we surely cannot play WHELAN or WALTERS FROM THE START Warming the bench BOJAN OR SOBHI CROUCH OR SOBHI IMBULLA / ADAMS CAMERON WHELAN
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Post by scfcwebby on Sept 19, 2016 16:08:31 GMT
He is needed, we currently have a keeper who has conceded 4 goals in 3 of our first 5 games
So what makes you thinkĀ that Grant would have done better than Given in those games?
You've got absolutely nothing to base it on.
Do you think Haugaard would have done better than Given in those games?
We aren't talking about Haugaard, we are talking about Grant. We don't know if Grant would have done better in those games, what we do know is Given has been crap. What is the point in signing him if he is worse than the shit we have seen already? Obviously it is all opinion and we will all have a different one, but to say that Given should still be in goal after his first 5 performances, when we have signed a keeper as back up, with no intention whatsoever of using him is, in my opinion, ridiculous at best
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Post by generationex on Sept 19, 2016 16:16:30 GMT
Christ... What an indictment this thread is against the current management.
No-one has the faintest idea what the team ought to be - and we're hoping the cavalry is a third rate keeper from Derby!
This thread had truly depressed me.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Sept 19, 2016 16:17:31 GMT
Grant (if looks up to it in the cup game) Johnson Shawcross Indi Pieters Cameron Allen Arnautovic Bojan Ramadan Bony We need to bed in a settled back four. We need to drop Whelan and Walters. Geoff will give us a physical, athletic presence in front of the back four. Diouf to come on to run at tired legs for last 30 mins (for either Bojan or Ramadan). Cameron isn't a DM he won't sit, it'll be one massive hole with him in there. The hole seems pretty big at the moment!
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Post by trickydicky73 on Sept 19, 2016 16:20:21 GMT
Christ... What an indictment this thread is against the current management. No-one has the faintest idea what the team ought to be - and we're hoping the cavalry is a third rate keeper from Derby! This thread had truly depressed me. That's what you get when you piss about in several transfer windows when other teams are strengthening key areas. I have absolutely no sympathy with the transfer team. They are to blame for this mess.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 19, 2016 16:20:23 GMT
Cameron isn't a DM he won't sit, it'll be one massive hole with him in there. The hole seems pretty big at the moment! Because Whelan is expected to do it on his own and has no support from the bloke to his left (whichever bloke it is).
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 19, 2016 16:30:19 GMT
Cameron isn't a DM he won't sit, it'll be one massive hole with him in there. The hole seems pretty big at the moment! It'll get even bigger without Whelan in there.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Sept 19, 2016 16:36:58 GMT
I agree with those who want to play Bony and Diouf up front. Diouf has always been better in a "two" and I think they would compliment each other.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Sept 19, 2016 16:40:58 GMT
The hole seems pretty big at the moment! Because Whelan is expected to do it on his own and has no support from the bloke to his left (whichever bloke it is). Van Ginkel, Affelay, N'Zonzi, Cameron have all been blamed for us getting overrun. Is it never Whelan's fault? He needed replacing in the summer.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 19, 2016 17:16:44 GMT
Because Whelan is expected to do it on his own and has no support from the bloke to his left (whichever bloke it is). Van Ginkel, Affelay, N'Zonzi, Cameron have all been blamed for us getting overrun. Is it never Whelan's fault? He needed replacing in the summer. Those blaming N'Zonzi are clueless. Cameron has never played alongside him has he and if he has it's been once or twice. Van Ginkel was awful. Afellay was neither here nor there. He did but we know he can't do it on his own but he's expected to. It's coming around to one thing again.....
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Post by Paul Spencer on Sept 19, 2016 17:17:05 GMT
Christ... What an indictment this thread is against the current management. No-one has the faintest idea what the team ought to be - and we're hoping the cavalry is a third rate keeper from Derby!
This thread had truly depressed me. Indeed mate it's incredible.
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Post by expectedtoulouse on Sept 19, 2016 17:32:18 GMT
We need to tighten things up and keep their defence occupied.
Grant
Johnson Shawcross Indi Pieters
Diouf Cameron Adam Arnie
Crouch Bony
For this game only I want to see some hoofs up to Crouch and see what Bony and Diouf can do with the knock downs.
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Post by Pugsley on Sept 19, 2016 17:32:48 GMT
Grant Bardsley Ryan Indi GlennJ Whelan Allen Diouf Imbula Arnie Bony
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 19, 2016 17:33:30 GMT
Grant Bardsley Ryan Indi GlennJ Whelan Allen Diouf Imbula Arnie Bony Completely wastes all the good aspects of Imbula's game.
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Post by Pugsley on Sept 19, 2016 17:37:22 GMT
Grant Bardsley Ryan Indi GlennJ Whelan Allen Diouf Imbula Arnie Bony Completely wastes all the good aspects of Imbula's game. He'd surely offer more than Bojan in that position? I don't know to be honest but Stoke City can't have their 18 million quid record signing not playing. Coates won't have it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2016 17:41:53 GMT
Completely wastes all the good aspects of Imbula's game. He'd surely offer more than Bojan in that position? I don't know to be honest but Stoke City can't have their 18 million quid record signing not playing. Ā Coates won't have it. Aren't Imbula's best qualities around being box-to-box, dragging players with him and ball retention? Attacking mid probs not best for him.
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Sept 19, 2016 17:43:04 GMT
I'd drop given. Solidify the back line by playing the best we currently have in each position: Johnson, Shawcross, indi, pieters. Drop Whelan, he has been absolute dog shit for three games. Drop Allen, I like the running, but he also runs too far and out of position. And play two up top.
Grant Johnson Shawcross indi pieters bojan imbula Adam arnautovic Diouf bony
This is what I expect the manager to pick:
Given Johnson Shawcross Indi pieters Whelan Allen Diouf imbula arnautovic Bony
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 19, 2016 17:43:04 GMT
Completely wastes all the good aspects of Imbula's game. He'd surely offer more than Bojan in that position? I don't know to be honest but Stoke City can't have their 18 million quid record signing not playing. Ā Coates won't have it. He's better running from deep though and when we play him and Allen it just hasn't worked. Not getting the hate (not hate I know but struggling for a different term) of Bojan. The midfield aren't getting the ball to him quick enough or at all, I really don't think there's much he can do.
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Post by WhyDelilah on Sept 19, 2016 17:47:17 GMT
Given Grant
Johnson Bardsley Cameron Shawcross Indi Muniesa Pieters
Bojan
Bony
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Post by Pugsley on Sept 19, 2016 17:47:21 GMT
He'd surely offer more than Bojan in that position? I don't know to be honest but Stoke City can't have their 18 million quid record signing not playing. Coates won't have it. He's better running from deep though and when we play him and Allen it just hasn't worked. Not getting the hate (not hate I know but struggling for a different term) of Bojan. The midfield aren't getting the ball to him quick enough or at all, I really don't think there's much he can do. His attitude was questionable yesterday and his general play was poor.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 19, 2016 17:49:48 GMT
He's better running from deep though and when we play him and Allen it just hasn't worked. Not getting the hate (not hate I know but struggling for a different term) of Bojan. The midfield aren't getting the ball to him quick enough or at all, I really don't think there's much he can do. His attitude was questionable yesterday and his general play was poor. Was it? In what way? He was covering Allen and doing stuff you don't want him doing. And we couldn't get the ball to him or any of our attackers, which wasn't really their fault.
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Post by Pugsley on Sept 19, 2016 17:52:03 GMT
His attitude was questionable yesterday and his general play was poor. Was it? In what way? He was covering Allen and doing stuff you don't want him doing. And we couldn't get the ball to him or any of our attackers, which wasn't really their fault. I didn't see much of him doing anything other than giving the ball away. I love Bojan but he's not worth a place at the moment.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 19, 2016 17:52:50 GMT
Was it? In what way? He was covering Allen and doing stuff you don't want him doing. And we couldn't get the ball to him or any of our attackers, which wasn't really their fault. I didn't see much of him doing anything other than giving the ball away. Ā I love Bojan but he's not worth a place at the moment. The one I can remember (the really lazy pass) was him covering for Allen.
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