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Post by kevkj on Sept 10, 2016 20:47:46 GMT
This is a continuation of last. We persist on taking on teams playing a 4-2-3-1 and getting a tonking. I am no manager but can plainly see all other teams who play this formation have quick fullbacks who create alongside inverted wingers. We dont all full backs at our club dont suit possibly bar Johnson hence we struggle to build attacks and make forwards look worse than they are. Hughes has taken us backwards and i hate to say we are overloaded in certain positions and terible in others.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2016 20:49:06 GMT
This is a continuation of last. We persist on taking on teams playing a 4-2-3-1 and getting a tonking. I am no manager but can plainly see all other teams who play this formation have quick fullbacks who create alongside inverted wingers. We dont all full backs at our club dont suit possibly bar Johnson hence we struggle to build attacks and make forwards look worse than they are. Hughes has taken us backwards and i hate to say we are overloaded in certain positions and terible in others. How the fuck has Hughes taken us backwards with 3 x 9th placed finishes?
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Post by swampySCFC on Sept 10, 2016 20:49:31 GMT
Big divide in the spending this season. Forget top 9. Go for 40 pts and to finish above our usual peers
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Post by Gods on Sept 10, 2016 20:51:36 GMT
We're in the brown stuff alright, the only point of debate is how deep?
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Post by Waggy on Sept 10, 2016 20:53:18 GMT
We're in the brown stuff alright, the only point of debate is how deep? Shit
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Post by MilanStokie on Sept 10, 2016 20:54:28 GMT
This is a continuation of last. We persist on taking on teams playing a 4-2-3-1 and getting a tonking. I am no manager but can plainly see all other teams who play this formation have quick fullbacks who create alongside inverted wingers. We dont all full backs at our club dont suit possibly bar Johnson hence we struggle to build attacks and make forwards look worse than they are. Hughes has taken us backwards and i hate to say we are overloaded in certain positions and terible in others. We did play 4-2-3-1 and it was quite successful, but we now try 4-3-3 with 3 midfielders who generally dont know what one another is doing, leaving gaping holes that Jenna Jameson would be proud of.
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Post by stonestokie76 on Sept 10, 2016 20:58:21 GMT
We need to forget all this 3 x 9th place lark. Yes it is a great achievement,. But it's in the past. Teams have become faster, stronger and so far we have not matched them and we play a formation that really exposes our lack of pace. Hughes has also spent £18m on a bang average midfielder who he needs to drop, but can't as that sends the wrong message. We also have a 40 year old in goal who has conceded 8 in two home games. A 4th 9th place looks a long way away right now!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2016 21:00:20 GMT
We need to forget all this 3 x 9th place lark. Yes it is a great achievement,. But it's in the past. Teams have become faster, stronger and so far we have not matched them and we play a formation that really exposes our lack of pace. Hughes has also spent £18m on a bang average midfielder who he needs to drop, but can't as that sends the wrong message. We also have a 40 year old in goal who has conceded 8 in two home games. A 4th 9th place looks a long way away right now! So the original poster says Hughes has taken us backwards but we're not allowed to point out theft with 3 x 9th placed finished that's clearly horseshit?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2016 21:00:38 GMT
We need to forget all this 3 x 9th place lark. Yes it is a great achievement,. But it's in the past. Teams have become faster, stronger and so far we have not matched them and we play a formation that really exposes our lack of pace. Hughes has also spent £18m on a bang average midfielder who he needs to drop, but can't as that sends the wrong message. We also have a 40 year old in goal who has conceded 8 in two home games. A 4th 9th place looks a long way away right now! So what you are actually saying is forget the good stuff from the past, but remember the bad stuff?
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Post by chiefdelilah on Sept 10, 2016 21:01:51 GMT
This is a continuation of last. We persist on taking on teams playing a 4-2-3-1 and getting a tonking. I am no manager but can plainly see all other teams who play this formation have quick fullbacks who create alongside inverted wingers. We dont all full backs at our club dont suit possibly bar Johnson hence we struggle to build attacks and make forwards look worse than they are. Hughes has taken us backwards and i hate to say we are overloaded in certain positions and terible in others. We haven't played 4-2-3-1 since the opening day, when we got our one and only point.
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Post by Billybigbollox on Sept 10, 2016 21:04:03 GMT
We're in the brown stuff alright, the only point of debate is how deep? Shit Just remember Colin, the brown stuff is never far away from being in the pink mate.
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Post by crapslinger on Sept 10, 2016 21:05:18 GMT
We need to forget all this 3 x 9th place lark. Yes it is a great achievement,. But it's in the past. Teams have become faster, stronger and so far we have not matched them and we play a formation that really exposes our lack of pace. Hughes has also spent £18m on a bang average midfielder who he needs to drop, but can't as that sends the wrong message. We also have a 40 year old in goal who has conceded 8 in two home games. A 4th 9th place looks a long way away right now! The usual response from the usual rimmers, we used to be good therefore we are good, so stop expressing any concern that the facts/stats since February actually prove that in the that time and presently we are in fact quite shit
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Post by chiefdelilah on Sept 10, 2016 21:06:01 GMT
We need to forget all this 3 x 9th place lark. Yes it is a great achievement,. But it's in the past. Teams have become faster, stronger and so far we have not matched them and we play a formation that really exposes our lack of pace. Hughes has also spent £18m on a bang average midfielder who he needs to drop, but can't as that sends the wrong message. We also have a 40 year old in goal who has conceded 8 in two home games. A 4th 9th place looks a long way away right now! The usual response from the usual rimmers, we used to be good therefore we are good, so stop expressing any concern that the facts/stats since February actually prove that in the that time and presently we are in fact quite shit Out of interest Carpy, when was the last time you enjoyed being a Stoke fan?
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Post by crapslinger on Sept 10, 2016 21:07:11 GMT
Just remember Colin, the brown stuff is never far away from being in the pink mate. Ask Keith Vaz, pink or brown can get you snookered if you are not careful who you play with.
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Post by stonestokie76 on Sept 10, 2016 21:07:20 GMT
We need to forget all this 3 x 9th place lark. Yes it is a great achievement,. But it's in the past. Teams have become faster, stronger and so far we have not matched them and we play a formation that really exposes our lack of pace. Hughes has also spent £18m on a bang average midfielder who he needs to drop, but can't as that sends the wrong message. We also have a 40 year old in goal who has conceded 8 in two home games. A 4th 9th place looks a long way away right now! So what you are actually saying is forget the good stuff from the past, but remember the bad stuff? Not at all!. I am saying you can't say we are going to do well this season just because we have in the past. You have to look at more variables than just past finishes. If you look at our pre-season, look at what was needed and what was done, look at how other teams have improved and how much harder this season was going to be given the big clubs fighting back. We should never forgot bow good the last 3 seasons have been, they were great, but the league has changed so much over the summer.
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Post by 19notbeaten72 on Sept 10, 2016 21:08:55 GMT
All this 3 seasons finishing 9th is a load of crap. Thats history you live for now & whats in front of us & believe me it don,t look good. Peter Coates needs to have strong words with the management team about how they manage the best squad of players the club have ever had. (Coates words this week).
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Post by Billybigbollox on Sept 10, 2016 21:10:30 GMT
Just remember Colin, the brown stuff is never far away from being in the pink mate. Ask Keith Vaz, pink or brown can get you snookered if you are not careful who you play with. I don't think it was snooker on his mind when he was going for the brown Carpster. He liked a bit of white as well by the sound of it.
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Post by crapslinger on Sept 10, 2016 21:12:02 GMT
The usual response from the usual rimmers, we used to be good therefore we are good, so stop expressing any concern that the facts/stats since February actually prove that in the that time and presently we are in fact quite shit Out of interest Carpy, when was the last time you enjoyed being a Stoke fan? Probably end of the 2014-2015 season when we were three players away from achieving something major since 1972, since then we have signed approx. 14 players and probably need another 6 to achieve the same thing, how about you happy with the way we are going under Hughes presently ?
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Post by Waggy on Sept 10, 2016 21:13:09 GMT
Just remember Colin, the brown stuff is never far away from being in the pink mate. Bill , i think i know what you mean
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Post by Waggy on Sept 10, 2016 21:13:47 GMT
Ask Keith Vaz, pink or brown can get you snookered if you are not careful who you play with. I don't think it was snooker on his mind when he was going for the brown Carpster. He liked a bit of white as well by the sound of it. The dirty devil
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Post by chiefdelilah on Sept 10, 2016 21:13:51 GMT
Out of interest Carpy, when was the last time you enjoyed being a Stoke fan? Probably end of the 2014-2015 season when we were three players away from achieving something major since 1972, since then we have signed approx. 14 players and probably need another 6 to achieve the same thing, how about you happy with the way we are going under Hughes presently ? I'm not, but then you've been moaning your bag off on here constantly since about 2011, so I just wondered what it would take for you to be happy? You're spookily quiet during the good times?
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Post by josefr on Sept 10, 2016 21:21:22 GMT
Shawcross back to his best, Shaqiri firing it in to Bony, Butland at the back, Indi to gel..Very hard first four fixtuers, Arnie cutting inside to bag another brace..It will come good! Norwegian potters to come cheer the lads on!
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Post by crapslinger on Sept 10, 2016 21:22:09 GMT
Probably end of the 2014-2015 season when we were three players away from achieving something major since 1972, since then we have signed approx. 14 players and probably need another 6 to achieve the same thing, how about you happy with the way we are going under Hughes presently ? I'm not, but then you've been moaning your bag off on here constantly since about 2011, so I just wondered what it would take for you to be happy? You're spookily quiet during the good times? So you also think we are shit then , 2011 where the fcuk has that come from , for the rest please see above I tried to make it idiot proof apologies I appear to have failed.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2016 21:26:05 GMT
I'm not, but then you've been moaning your bag off on here constantly since about 2011, so I just wondered what it would take for you to be happy? You're spookily quiet during the good times? So you also think we are shit then , 2011 where the fcuk has that come from , for the rest please see above I tried to make it idiot proof apologies I appear to have failed. An idiot cannot possibly make anything "idiot proof".
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Post by chiefdelilah on Sept 10, 2016 21:32:30 GMT
I'm not, but then you've been moaning your bag off on here constantly since about 2011, so I just wondered what it would take for you to be happy? You're spookily quiet during the good times? So you also think we are shit then , 2011 where the fcuk has that come from , for the rest please see above I tried to make it idiot proof apologies I appear to have failed. At the moment we are shit. You'd be hard pressed to find a post of yours from the last five years that didn't suggest we'd been shit for that entire time though. You're a dreadful moaning bastard with nothing positive to say even when things are going well.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2016 21:36:39 GMT
So you also think we are shit then , 2011 where the fcuk has that come from , for the rest please see above I tried to make it idiot proof apologies I appear to have failed. At the moment we are shit. You'd be hard pressed to find a post of yours from the last five years that didn't suggest we'd been shit for that entire time though. You're a dreadful moaning bastard with nothing positive to say even when things are going well. That's your problem Rob,always sitting on the fence and not saying what you think B-)
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Post by crapslinger on Sept 10, 2016 21:37:13 GMT
So you also think we are shit then , 2011 where the fcuk has that come from , for the rest please see above I tried to make it idiot proof apologies I appear to have failed. At the moment we are shit. You'd be hard pressed to find a post of yours from the last five years that didn't suggest we'd been shit for that entire time though. You're a dreadful moaning bastard with nothing positive to say even when things are going well. I registered on this board in 2014 I think, your maths are feckin shocking even by my standards , pleased to see that you agree that we are shit at the moment though some common ground there.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Sept 10, 2016 21:38:37 GMT
At the moment we are shit. You'd be hard pressed to find a post of yours from the last five years that didn't suggest we'd been shit for that entire time though. You're a dreadful moaning bastard with nothing positive to say even when things are going well. I registered on this board in 2014 I think, your maths are feckin shocking even by my standards , pleased to see that you agree that we are shit at the moment though some common ground there. You did in this guise yeah. When you enjoyed our football that season; did we hear as much from you then? Singing the praises of the team that put six past Liverpool for instance?
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Post by crapslinger on Sept 10, 2016 21:39:41 GMT
At the moment we are shit. You'd be hard pressed to find a post of yours from the last five years that didn't suggest we'd been shit for that entire time though. You're a dreadful moaning bastard with nothing positive to say even when things are going well. That's your problem Rob,always sitting on the fence and not saying what you think B-) Rob's problem is maths Jimmy
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Post by chiefdelilah on Sept 10, 2016 21:41:23 GMT
That's your problem Rob,always sitting on the fence and not saying what you think B-) Rob's problem is maths Jimmy A happy side effect of us eventually turning this round will you be disappearing for a while
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