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Post by Staffsoatcake on Sept 10, 2016 20:32:36 GMT
There you go Mr. Hughes, sorted.  |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 10, 2016 20:36:10 GMT
A massive part of the problem today.
The midfield including him were AWOL.
He'd go galavanting up the pitch, Imbula would mill around doing God knows what leaving Whelan on his own or out of position and their attackers to run at our defence unhindered.
The midfield today (all of them) were an absolute disgrace and did nothing to protect the back 4.
It just took one ball most of the time to render Allen and Imbula useless. That's not good enough. It's piss poor planning and the discipline shown was shambolic.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Sept 10, 2016 20:38:29 GMT
A massive part of the problem today. The midfield including him were AWOL. He'd go galavanting up the pitch, Imbula would mill around doing God knows what leaving Whelan on his own or out of position and their attackers to run at our defence unhindered. The midfield today (all of them) were an absolute disgrace and did nothing to protect the back 4. It just took one ball most of the time to render Allen and Imbula useless. That's not good enough. It's piss poor planning and the discipline shown was shambolic. Fuck me. I agree entirely. Allen ran around a lot and tried really hard. He was scarily reminiscent of dean whitehead. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 10, 2016 20:43:21 GMT
A massive part of the problem today. The midfield including him were AWOL. He'd go galavanting up the pitch, Imbula would mill around doing God knows what leaving Whelan on his own or out of position and their attackers to run at our defence unhindered. The midfield today (all of them) were an absolute disgrace and did nothing to protect the back 4. It just took one ball most of the time to render Allen and Imbula useless. That's not good enough. It's piss poor planning and the discipline shown was shambolic. Fuck me. I agree entirely. Allen ran around a lot and tried really hard. He was scarily reminiscent of dean whitehead. He was, that's entirely what it was like! Even his passing wasn't as good as it normally is. He did run around a lot but in the wrong areas It was like one of those days at work that you make yourself look busy but in reality you're doing fuck all productive. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2016 20:44:59 GMT
What was going on with him today? In the first half especially, every time he got on the ball nobody at all showed for a pass, despite being surrounded by two or three?
It was very odd.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Sept 10, 2016 20:50:31 GMT
Allen is an infinitely better footballer than Dean Whitehead.
However it's surely becoming apparent to people that his natural game is not to sit in front of the back four as a replacement for Whelan?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 10, 2016 21:00:10 GMT
Allen is an infinitely better footballer than Dean Whitehead.
However it's surely becoming apparent to people that his natural game is not to sit in front of the back four as a replacement for Whelan?
Of course but that sort of useless running around achieving nothing was his game today. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Sept 10, 2016 21:03:52 GMT
Allen is an infinitely better footballer than Dean Whitehead.
However it's surely becoming apparent to people that his natural game is not to sit in front of the back four as a replacement for Whelan?
but that sort of useless running around achieving nothing was his game today.
It isn't to a lot of people on here tonight though mate.
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Post by redwhite on Sept 10, 2016 21:10:51 GMT
We should be building a team around Bojan but unless Hughes is prepared to (a) drop Whelan or (b) drop a £13m/£18m player he's going to be on the bench or shoe horned onto the right wing.
Bojan being given a run of games in the number 10 role with Bony in front of him is a much more attractive thought that the midfield 3 we saw today IMO.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Sept 10, 2016 22:36:42 GMT
Of course but that sort of useless running around achieving nothing was his game today.
It isn't to a lot of people on here tonight though mate.
A lot of people? I've only glanced at the board tonight but until seeing bayerns post, I thought it was only me that thought he was toss today. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Sept 10, 2016 22:44:26 GMT
It isn't to a lot of people on here tonight though mate.
A lot of people? I've only glanced at the board tonight but until seeing bayerns post, I thought it was only me that thought he was toss today.
You've completely misread my post Dave.
EDIT: Oh and please don't ask me to spell it out mate, it's all there if you follow the thread.
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Post by Pugsley on Sept 10, 2016 22:52:40 GMT
Once again Stoke City supporters confuse running around a lot with a good performance.
Allen was OK, but at times his headless chicken act was far more negative than positive.
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Post by Gods on Sept 10, 2016 22:59:25 GMT
I'm not sure we should be building a team around Allen, Bojan or anyone else, we should just be building a team.
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Post by Gods on Sept 10, 2016 23:02:01 GMT
Once again Stoke City supporters confuse running around a lot with a good performance. Allen was OK, but at times his headless chicken act was far more negative than positive. I can't see where anyone on this thread has said Allen played well today, in fact your 'OK' assessment is the most generous on here  |
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Post by TexasPotter on Sept 10, 2016 23:05:40 GMT
Once again Stoke City supporters confuse running around a lot with a good performance. Allen was OK, but at times his headless chicken act was far more negative than positive. I can't see where anyone on this thread has said Allen played well today, in fact your 'OK' assessment is the most generous on here Plenty of dumbasses in other threads have. He was a shade better than others for 15 mins, but still overwhelmingly shit defensively and ran around a lot looking like a headless chicken. |
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Post by turtlefox on Sept 10, 2016 23:12:52 GMT
I don't think we have any player to build a team around.
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Post by Gods on Sept 10, 2016 23:17:24 GMT
I can't see where anyone on this thread has said Allen played well today, in fact your 'OK' assessment is the most generous on here Plenty of dumbasses in other threads have. He was a shade better than others for 15 mins, but still overwhelmingly shit defensively and ran around a lot looking like a headless chicken. Yes that's par for the course for any new signings, people want them to succeed so they are cut some extra slack for the first 10 or 12 games, he's still on his honeymoon! |
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Post by numpty40 on Sept 10, 2016 23:24:21 GMT
Allen is an infinitely better footballer than Dean Whitehead.
However it's surely becoming apparent to people that his natural game is not to sit in front of the back four as a replacement for Whelan?
It may be not his natural game but he he needs to adapt because watching his undisciplined performance today makes me wonder what his natural game is. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2016 23:24:28 GMT
He's already built a team and still reverts back to walters on the wing.
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Post by TexasPotter on Sept 10, 2016 23:28:21 GMT
Plenty of dumbasses in other threads have. He was a shade better than others for 15 mins, but still overwhelmingly shit defensively and ran around a lot looking like a headless chicken. Yes that's par for the course for any new signings, people want them to succeed so they are cut some extra slack for the first 10 or 12 games, he's still on his honeymoon! Yes, but to be fair he wasn't the only new signing and senior in midfield with that summarization from the majority of people. All of them were abysmal in midfield, nobody in that area of the pitch barring Arnie came out with any credit and even his was minimal at best and Walters was convincingly poor. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2016 23:56:32 GMT
A massive part of the problem today. The midfield including him were AWOL. He'd go galavanting up the pitch, Imbula would mill around doing God knows what leaving Whelan on his own or out of position and their attackers to run at our defence unhindered. The midfield today (all of them) were an absolute disgrace and did nothing to protect the back 4. It just took one ball most of the time to render Allen and Imbula useless. That's not good enough. It's piss poor planning and the discipline shown was shambolic. Fuck me. I agree entirely. Allen ran around a lot and tried really hard. He was scarily reminiscent of dean whitehead. I too am in utter disbelief of how I can agree with Bayern but today Allen's pressing left us so vulnerable. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 10, 2016 23:58:52 GMT
Fuck me. I agree entirely. Allen ran around a lot and tried really hard. He was scarily reminiscent of dean whitehead. I too am in utter disbelief of how I can agree with Bayern but today Allen's pressing left us so vulnerable. Why? I've been spot on from about December with what's going on whilst almost everyone else had their head in the sand!! |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2016 23:59:55 GMT
I think the squad as a whole is poor. We do not seem to play as a team anymore. Really, really disappointing!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2016 0:02:37 GMT
I too am in utter disbelief of how I can agree with Bayern but today Allen's pressing left us so vulnerable. Why? I've been spot on from about December with what's going on whilst almost everyone else had their head in the sand!! You have not. |
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Post by jwhpotter on Sept 11, 2016 0:04:23 GMT
A massive part of the problem today. The midfield including him were AWOL. He'd go galavanting up the pitch, Imbula would mill around doing God knows what leaving Whelan on his own or out of position and their attackers to run at our defence unhindered. The midfield today (all of them) were an absolute disgrace and did nothing to protect the back 4. It just took one ball most of the time to render Allen and Imbula useless. That's not good enough. It's piss poor planning and the discipline shown was shambolic. I said exactly the same thing to my mate earlier, Allen and Imbula are both box to box players neither are a proper CAM or CDM. I don't think they can be in the same team |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 11, 2016 0:06:13 GMT
Why? I've been spot on from about December with what's going on whilst almost everyone else had their head in the sand!! You have not. I definitely have. Nothing has changed now since then. The same issues were here then that are there now. Like I said it was a case of head in the sands or simply not being able to spot it. |
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Post by trout-licker on Sept 11, 2016 0:08:41 GMT
A massive part of the problem today. The midfield including him were AWOL. He'd go galavanting up the pitch, Imbula would mill around doing God knows what leaving Whelan on his own or out of position and their attackers to run at our defence unhindered. The midfield today (all of them) were an absolute disgrace and did nothing to protect the back 4. It just took one ball most of the time to render Allen and Imbula useless. That's not good enough. It's piss poor planning and the discipline shown was shambolic. I don't think any of the midfield 3, when consisting of Whelan, Imbula and Allen know the job they're meant to be doing. All too similar. When Bojan is in the team the roles are obvious. Comes down to poor management imo. Allen was MOM for me today. Covered every blade and seemed the only one to give a shit |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 11, 2016 0:12:59 GMT
A massive part of the problem today. The midfield including him were AWOL. He'd go galavanting up the pitch, Imbula would mill around doing God knows what leaving Whelan on his own or out of position and their attackers to run at our defence unhindered. The midfield today (all of them) were an absolute disgrace and did nothing to protect the back 4. It just took one ball most of the time to render Allen and Imbula useless. That's not good enough. It's piss poor planning and the discipline shown was shambolic. I don't think any of the midfield 3, when consisting of Whelan, Imbula and Allen know the job they're meant to be doing. All too similar. When Bojan is in the team the roles are obvious. Comes down to poor management imo. Allen was MOM for me today. Covered every blade and seemed the only one to give a shit Agree until the mom bit. I thought he killed us. We don't need him covering every blade of grass. The ones in a channel on the left Whelan from our 18 yard line to 20 yards in their half would do. He didn't play with any thought today. |
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Post by trout-licker on Sept 11, 2016 0:16:39 GMT
At least he seemed up for the fight and was trying, if failing, to make something happen.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 11, 2016 0:17:23 GMT
That's not good enough.
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