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Post by k on Aug 25, 2016 9:13:07 GMT
How could we slate them? He wanted to go and had 12 months on his contract. We either got another 12 months mileage but no cash, or some cash but no mileage. Neither were great options, but little else we could do was there? You could say the same of Berahino, who's going for £20,000,000! Not at the moment he isn't
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Post by iamcliveclarke on Aug 25, 2016 9:25:29 GMT
Of only we'd put in a buy back clause
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2016 9:28:43 GMT
Don't follow the Spanish league or Europe league then? No I have to admit I don't. Care to enlighten me on all his stats for this season. So you don't watch the leagues and competitions he's in and wonder why you've not heard or seen much of him
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Post by chiefdelilah on Aug 25, 2016 9:40:20 GMT
Nzonzi was head and shoulders above any midfielder we'd had for at least 20 years from day one.
This revisionism that he was only good for one season, I don't get it. He was brilliant during both Hughes seasons and one of our better players during Pulis' last season - there was a reason why the Seven Nation Army chant started within weeks of him signing.
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Post by WhyDelilah on Aug 25, 2016 9:53:57 GMT
Nzonzi was head and shoulders above any midfielder we'd had for at least 20 years from day one. This revisionism that he was only good for one season, I don't get it. He was brilliant during both Hughes seasons and one of our better players during Pulis' last season - there was a reason why the Seven Nation Army chant started within weeks of him signing. He was much better than the likes of Diao , Brammer, Whitehead, Olofinjana etc - agreed. He wasn't as good as some make out though. If he really was a "Rolls Royce" midfielder, he'd have gone to a top 4 club in England or Europe. He's now being linked to Leicester. Champions of England, yes. Realistically not going to finish top 4 this season though. He's good. Not brilliant.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Aug 25, 2016 9:56:27 GMT
Nzonzi was head and shoulders above any midfielder we'd had for at least 20 years from day one. This revisionism that he was only good for one season, I don't get it. He was brilliant during both Hughes seasons and one of our better players during Pulis' last season - there was a reason why the Seven Nation Army chant started within weeks of him signing. He was much better than the likes of Diao , Brammer, Whitehead, Olofinjana etc - agreed. He wasn't as good as some make out though. If he really was a "Rolls Royce" midfielder, he'd have gone to a top 4 club in England or Europe. He's now being linked to Leicester. Champions of England, yes. Realistically not going to finish top 4 this season though. He's good. Not brilliant. I'm not really fussed if he's a top four player or not. He was brilliant for us, he's done well at Sevilla and we've missed him. He's the best central midfielder I've seen play at the club in 25 years of watching them.
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 25, 2016 9:59:38 GMT
He was much better than the likes of Diao , Brammer, Whitehead, Olofinjana etc - agreed. He wasn't as good as some make out though. If he really was a "Rolls Royce" midfielder, he'd have gone to a top 4 club in England or Europe. He's now being linked to Leicester. Champions of England, yes. Realistically not going to finish top 4 this season though. He's good. Not brilliant. I'm not really fussed if he's a top four player or not. He was brilliant for us, he's done well at Sevilla and we've missed him. He's the best central midfielder I've seen play at the club in 25 years of watching them. Part of last seasons transfer debacle, we took backward steps not forward.
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Post by babylon on Aug 25, 2016 9:59:55 GMT
£25 million for a central midfielder that never bossed an away game seems an awful lot of money. We thought a lot of him when you played us at ours... we desperately need some physicality and he seems to bring that.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2016 10:00:11 GMT
More fxxxxxx fools Leicester then- they could have signed him for £8m twelve months ago. We did try if you don't remember. Indeed you did. Having just checked the dates Pearson was still in charge. I was going to make some terribly unwitty comment about it being back in the day when everyone was still pissing themselves about the Ranieri appointment. What a difference a year makes.
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Post by henry on Aug 25, 2016 10:02:44 GMT
£25 million quid for a player that's only just above average. Football really is turning into a truely fucking disgusting sport.
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Post by mrcoke on Aug 25, 2016 10:03:15 GMT
There are a lot of posters on here with short memories. I am an N'Zonzi fan and voted for him as player of the season 2014-15 and defended him when all the knockers were criticizing his negative play and slowing the game down. He became a better player under Hughes who gave him the freedom to move forward, but he was well behind in the vote the previous season, when apparently now the view of some is he was brilliant for us, but "everyone" voted for Ryan, Whelan, and Bego. BUT All this posting about his brilliance and how fantastic he is is eyewash. He was never settled at Stoke always wanting a wage rise each summer, he disrupted the squad, he got booked for losing his temper, his attitude to a cyclist stank of arrogance, and he didn't want to stay at Stoke even when voted Player of the season. He felt he was above us and had ambition to play in the Champions League and get into the French side. He refused to sign a new contract no matter how lucrative it may have been or how hard MH tried to persuade him to stay. So having run him down as a person, how good a player was he? Well the facts speak for themselves, no top club in the Prem wanted him, we had a measly offer from Norwich (or someone?), he wasn't picked for France, and we got a half decent offer from Sevilla. Hardly good references for such a great player, are they? Should we have made him run down his contract? IMO with his personal traits, no; he would have been disruptive, best get rid and try and find a replacement.
N'Zonzi is a good first class player, who holds the ball better than almost anyone and is good at distributing it safely, but he is not international class, brilliant, fantastic, etc. etc.
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Post by WhyDelilah on Aug 25, 2016 10:06:31 GMT
He was much better than the likes of Diao , Brammer, Whitehead, Olofinjana etc - agreed. He wasn't as good as some make out though. If he really was a "Rolls Royce" midfielder, he'd have gone to a top 4 club in England or Europe. He's now being linked to Leicester. Champions of England, yes. Realistically not going to finish top 4 this season though. He's good. Not brilliant. I'm not really fussed if he's a top four player or not. He was brilliant for us, he's done well at Sevilla and we've missed him. He's the best central midfielder I've seen play at the club in 25 years of watching them. If Imbula can find a little bit of consistency, he'll be much better. Early impressions of Allen suggests he could also be an upgrade. Our problems aren't because we haven't got N'Zonzi in the squad.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Aug 25, 2016 10:08:22 GMT
There are a lot of posters on here with short memories. I am an N'Zonzi fan and voted for him as player of the season 2014-15 and defended him when all the knockers were criticizing his negative play and slowing the game down. He became a better player under Hughes who gave him the freedom to move forward, but he was well behind in the vote the previous season, when apparently now the view of some is he was brilliant for us, but "everyone" voted for Ryan, Whelan, and Bego. BUT All this posting about his brilliance and how fantastic he is is eyewash. He was never settled at Stoke always wanting a wage rise each summer, he disrupted the squad, he got booked for losing his temper, his attitude to a cyclist stank of arrogance, and he didn't want to stay at Stoke even when voted Player of the season. He felt he was above us and had ambition to play in the Champions League and get into the French side. He refused to sign a new contract no matter how lucrative it may have been or how hard MH tried to persuade him to stay. So having run him down as a person, how good a player was he? Well the facts speak for themselves, no top club in the Prem wanted him, we had a measly offer from Norwich (or someone?), he wasn't picked for France, and we got a half decent offer from Sevilla. Hardly good references for such a great player, are they? Should we have made him run down his contract? IMO with his personal traits, no; he would have been disruptive, best get rid and try and find a replacement. N'Zonzi is a good first class player, who holds the ball better than almost anyone and is good at distributing it safely, but he is not international class, brilliant, fantastic, etc. etc. All that's important is that he was excellent for us. Ricardo wasn't a target for too clubs. Rory wasn't. Etherington wasn't. Can't recall much serious interest in Ryan. He had a dip in the last Pulis season like everyone else but he was immediate a cut above anyone else we'd seen there under TP and he was miles better than Glenn that season. His song boomed around the ground and away grounds - remember coming back from The Hawthorns that season and it was all you could hear for the entire journey back.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Aug 25, 2016 10:09:36 GMT
I'm not really fussed if he's a top four player or not. He was brilliant for us, he's done well at Sevilla and we've missed him. He's the best central midfielder I've seen play at the club in 25 years of watching them. If Imbula can find a little bit of consistency, he'll be much better. Early impressions of Allen suggests he could also be an upgrade. Our problems aren't because we haven't got N'Zonzi in the squad. I haven't said they are. I agree Imbula will be better if he finds some consistency. Until he does, he won't be even close.
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Post by babylon on Aug 25, 2016 10:11:53 GMT
We did try if you don't remember. Indeed you did. Having just checked the dates Pearson was still in charge. I was going to make some terribly unwitty comment about it being back in the day when everyone was still pissing themselves about the Ranieri appointment. What a difference a year makes. Tell me about it... I'm still wondering how we managed to stay up the first season, not sure I'll ever manage to compute last season.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Aug 25, 2016 10:14:18 GMT
Zonz was class and really enjoyed the big games but could go to sleep in others maybe got bored , he never wanted to stay with us long term and its hard to see what the club could have done Im sure they would have happily given him a five year contract .
The money this season is insane sadly so 25m doesn't surprise me one bit
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Post by philb on Aug 25, 2016 10:15:27 GMT
Nzonzi was head and shoulders above any midfielder we'd had for at least 20 years from day one. This revisionism that he was only good for one season, I don't get it. He was brilliant during both Hughes seasons and one of our better players during Pulis' last season - there was a reason why the Seven Nation Army chant started within weeks of him signing. He was very good/excellent for one season (his last) and ok/good for the others. We only missed him because we didn't replace him straight away. Don't get carried away. ;-)
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 25, 2016 10:17:58 GMT
Zonz was class and really enjoyed the big games but could go to sleep in others maybe got bored , he never wanted to stay with us long term and its hard to see what the club could have done Im sure they would have happily given him a five year contract . The money this season is insane sadly so 25m doesn't surprise me one bit The money is insane but to put this into perspective, he is only a Joselu dearer than Imbula !
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Post by chiefdelilah on Aug 25, 2016 10:18:34 GMT
Nzonzi was head and shoulders above any midfielder we'd had for at least 20 years from day one. This revisionism that he was only good for one season, I don't get it. He was brilliant during both Hughes seasons and one of our better players during Pulis' last season - there was a reason why the Seven Nation Army chant started within weeks of him signing. He was very good/excellent for one season (his last) and ok/good for the others. We only missed him because we didn't replace him straight away. Don't get carried away. ;-) He was much better than OK in every season. He was the heartbeat of the first two Hughes seasons. If you can be arsed to find threads on here from the 12-13 season you'll find people raving about him as well. Saying 'we missed him because we didn't replace him straight away' is a bit like saying 'I only got burgled because I left my door unlocked and my windows open'...
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Post by wuzza on Aug 25, 2016 10:21:23 GMT
I think Zonz is absolute quality but you have to wonder why one of the elite clubs has never been convinced enough to go for him.
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Post by jimmygscfc on Aug 25, 2016 10:28:18 GMT
It really doesn't matter anymore chaps
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Post by philb on Aug 25, 2016 10:30:01 GMT
It really doesn't matter anymore chaps Exactly
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Post by philb on Aug 25, 2016 10:33:53 GMT
He was very good/excellent for one season (his last) and ok/good for the others. We only missed him because we didn't replace him straight away. Don't get carried away. ;-) He was much better than OK in every season. He was the heartbeat of the first two Hughes seasons. If you can be arsed to find threads on here from the 12-13 season you'll find people raving about him as well. Saying 'we missed him because we didn't replace him straight away' is a bit like saying 'I only got burgled because I left my door unlocked and my windows open'... We might have had a top player on our hands if we'd kept him, as he did get better each season, but he thought he was a billy big bollox and was too good for us. The fact that he ended up at Sevilla and not at a huge club says everything about his overall ability.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Aug 25, 2016 10:35:49 GMT
He was much better than OK in every season. He was the heartbeat of the first two Hughes seasons. If you can be arsed to find threads on here from the 12-13 season you'll find people raving about him as well. Saying 'we missed him because we didn't replace him straight away' is a bit like saying 'I only got burgled because I left my door unlocked and my windows open'... We might have had a top player on our hands if we'd kept him, as he did get better each season, but he thought he was a billy big bollox and was too good for us. The fact that he ended up at Sevilla and not at a huge club says everything about his overall ability. Sevilla aren't a Barcelona or Real Madrid but they're still a very big club. They were the Europa League holders and in the Champions League. And he won a trophy with them. Reckon he's pretty happy with that. We aren't going to find many players who love the club and don't see us as a stepping stone.
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Post by ryan4england on Aug 25, 2016 10:41:39 GMT
Not half as bad as man utd making pogba surplus then resigning him for 89 million
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Post by FriendlyLCFC on Aug 25, 2016 10:51:17 GMT
I was very pleased to see this story come about last night from Percy, and a lot of our fanbase are right on board with this. N'Zonzi is proven PL quality, 27 years old (prime age), and has the exact attributes we require for our centre midfield. He'd be a superb signing and I remember I think last summer we bid 18m for him, however he left Stoke and joined Seville.
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 25, 2016 10:54:01 GMT
I think Zonz is absolute quality but you have to wonder why one of the elite clubs has never been convinced enough to go for him. Agree - but I genuinely think he's good enough to play regularly for any team in the country.
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Post by Davef on Aug 25, 2016 10:54:12 GMT
I was very pleased to see this story come about last night from Percy, and a lot of our fanbase are right on board with this. N'Zonzi is proven PL quality, 27 years old (prime age), and has the exact attributes we require for our centre midfield. He'd be a superb signing and I remember I think last summer we bid 18m for him, however he left Stoke and joined Seville. You didn't bid £18M for him last year, you bid £7M, the same as Seville. £18M is the bid that you had rejected by Seville earlier this year.
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Post by wuzza on Aug 25, 2016 11:26:05 GMT
I think Zonz is absolute quality but you have to wonder why one of the elite clubs has never been convinced enough to go for him. Agree - but I genuinely think he's good enough to play regularly for any team in the country. With very high quality players around him I think he would be an absolute revelation and be playing for France in no time. Doubt it's ever going to happen though.
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Post by sportsman on Aug 25, 2016 11:52:34 GMT
I was very pleased to see this story come about last night from Percy, and a lot of our fanbase are right on board with this. N'Zonzi is proven PL quality, 27 years old (prime age), and has the exact attributes we require for our centre midfield. He'd be a superb signing and I remember I think last summer we bid 18m for him, however he left Stoke and joined Seville. Won't help Vardy. Unless Vardy stands behind nzonzi then he might get the ball with a pass backwards. Out of all the midfielders Leicester need to play that killer ball forward they look at nzonzi!! Don't they study stats?
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