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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2016 3:09:20 GMT
£25 million for a central midfielder that never bossed an away game seems an awful lot of money.
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Post by mattface on Aug 25, 2016 5:27:57 GMT
£25 million for a central midfielder that never bossed an away game seems an awful lot of money. I'd be worried if we were thinking of spending that sort of money on Nzonzi.
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Post by foster on Aug 25, 2016 5:38:39 GMT
Too late seen it . As you know this for me was the ultimate example of how weak and short sighted and small time our commercial thinking has been . The only consolation would be if the plonker that allowed his contract to run to 1 year , then accepted £7m like it was a kings ransom mid window was made to walk the plank in the ensuing inquest . We spent £18m replacing him sending results backwards and undersold by 18m too early and people think peace is a wanker. While the ultimate maturbator is much Closer to Home presiding over a another myopic window , a catastrophic PR policy , a abortion of a online platform , a pigs ear of corporate missed opportunity ( Did anyone notice empty boxes on Saturday ) and a traffic system and customer experience that can be bettered at the dentist What the fuck is an ultimate maturbator?? Think my son has him on pokemon go.
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Post by wuzza on Aug 25, 2016 5:51:25 GMT
As someone said earlier 'Ouch'. This would hurt on many levels. Great player who we lost cheaply but I guess you have to put it in the past ....and certainly not forgot that it wasn't all wine and roses - he never settled here and was always looking to get away. With regard Imbula the lad is I'm afraid a victim of his price tag. We did however buy him when his career was on the 'crest of a slump' - he couldn't get a game for his then club.That combined with him moving to a new league should mean we give him more time than he has had to establish himself. It's up to us to get the best out of this young player because the ability and physique are there for him to be a top performer. It would be good if his confidence wasn't undermined just yet by too much overt criticism.
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Post by WhyDelilah on Aug 25, 2016 6:01:36 GMT
We've got Imbula and Allen.
We don't need to spend 25 million on him. We don't need him. And he isn't worth that much either.
Good luck to Leicester.
Centre half and centre forward please Les.
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Post by sportsman on Aug 25, 2016 6:20:49 GMT
Massively overrated and I'll be amazed if someone actually pays it rather than just linked.
In a way I hope they do, as I've neither seen or heard much of him since and it would be a way to see him back in this league and stop the myth that is nzonzi.
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Post by foster on Aug 25, 2016 6:40:18 GMT
Massively overrated and I'll be amazed if someone actually pays it rather than just linked. In a way I hope they do, as I've neither seen or heard much of him since and it would be a way to see him back in this league and stop the myth that is nzonzi. Player of the season. Doubt he's top 4 material though.
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Post by doitforfrank on Aug 25, 2016 6:43:02 GMT
Imbula isnt even close to Nzonzi. Slower on the ball, one footed and lazy to defend. And apart from anything else he wears gloves in August FFS. I'd swap the two in a heartbeat, drive Imbula to Seville and give Fonz a lift back. Do you really care if he wears gloves? If he wears them in August? A little bit yeah. I want players to play with spirit and strength not just skill, and wearing woollen gloves on a warm summer afternoon doesn't inspire me for the colder times ahead that he's going to up for the fight for the cause. When the wind gets swirling at the "Bet 365" is he going to wear trackky bottoms as well. Or maybe he's just another in this generation of footballers who live in their own little bubble and is detached from the reality of life.
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Post by WhyDelilah on Aug 25, 2016 6:44:17 GMT
Don't see what your complaining about mate ? Doesn't matter Because there's nothing to complain about.
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Aug 25, 2016 6:44:49 GMT
Massively overrated and I'll be amazed if someone actually pays it rather than just linked. In a way I hope they do, as I've neither seen or heard much of him since and it would be a way to see him back in this league and stop the myth that is nzonzi. Don't follow the Spanish league or Europe league then?
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Post by sportsman on Aug 25, 2016 6:46:41 GMT
Massively overrated and I'll be amazed if someone actually pays it rather than just linked. In a way I hope they do, as I've neither seen or heard much of him since and it would be a way to see him back in this league and stop the myth that is nzonzi. Don't follow the Spanish league or Europe league then? No I have to admit I don't. Care to enlighten me on all his stats for this season.
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Aug 25, 2016 6:53:09 GMT
Don't follow the Spanish league or Europe league then? No I have to admit I don't. Care to enlighten me on all his stats for this season. No.
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Post by nik80 on Aug 25, 2016 6:55:33 GMT
Imbula's possibly better now and certainly has the potential to be better in the future. Miss Fonzy though, an excellent player D'you really believe imbula's possibly better than N'Zonzi? Really, really can't see that myself. Nothing against him, just can't see he's what we need currently.
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Post by sportsman on Aug 25, 2016 7:20:11 GMT
No I have to admit I don't. Care to enlighten me on all his stats for this season. No. Thought not.
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Post by Rick Grimes on Aug 25, 2016 7:26:15 GMT
I'm simply staggered at how some people on this board fail to grasp fairly simple concepts (I'm looking at you carsplayer and benjimanbiscuit)
N'Zonzi was a fantastic player for us and if he had signed a new 4 year deal with us we'd either still have him here or someone would have to stump up £20+ million in order to prise him away for us. But he didn't, he had only 1 year left on his contract and made it clear he was not going to sign another despite our best efforts. We had no option than to sell him for the money offered or lose him for nothing.
I don't fault the guy because he made it clear he wanted to play at a higher level and I think that by joining Sevilla a side playing in, and winning, the Europa cup he's certainly done that.
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Aug 25, 2016 7:30:18 GMT
Only because it wouldn't prove anything...what I do know is he is a regular in a very good football team.He can't be that bad can he?
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Post by cheadlestokie on Aug 25, 2016 7:45:35 GMT
That midfield would be worth almost 60 million quid and if we played it we'd still be crying out for Glenn Whelan ALLEN IMBULA AND N'ZONZI CAN'T HANDLE A 3 MAN MIDFIELD. EVERYONE KNOWS THIS. Well I don't so that makes you wrong - "everyone"? And I will not have anyone say a bad word about Whelan but maintain my position even so
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Post by Gob Bluth on Aug 25, 2016 8:08:33 GMT
The comparisons are interesting because the way they impacted our play is very VERY different. N'Zonzi would often slow things down but Imbula is there to try and speed things up similarly N'Zonzi was often frustrating to watch because when he did burst forward with the ball he looked fantastic but just didn't back himself enough, Imbula still needs to learn when and where to do it. This all said N'Zonzi was a more consistent performer but it's easier to do that when you're a more conservative player.
TeamTalk are saying 25m is his release clause so it could be a quick transfer.
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Post by mattface on Aug 25, 2016 8:14:14 GMT
Personally I think we have the better player in Imbulla. Was disappointed he left, but was far from irreplaceable.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Aug 25, 2016 8:21:50 GMT
The comparisons are interesting because the way they impacted our play is very VERY different. N'Zonzi would often slow things down but Imbula is there to try and speed things up similarly N'Zonzi was often frustrating to watch because when he did burst forward with the ball he looked fantastic but just didn't back himself enough, Imbula still needs to learn when and where to do it. This all said N'Zonzi was a more consistent performer but it's easier to do that when you're a more conservative player. TeamTalk are saying 25m is his release clause so it could be a quick transfer. I find Imbula slows the play down more by his infuriating refusal to play the simple pass to an attacking player when he has the chance. Imbula may well turn out to be better than Nzonzi and at his best his influence is greater, but he has nowhere near as much consistent impact as Nzonzi did this far. That said, Nzonzi was already adjusted to the league when we signed him and Imbula wasn't.
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Post by ryouonthistrain on Aug 25, 2016 8:32:36 GMT
People seem to forget how infuriating zonz could be in his first season. He was great for one season his final season. Imbula is 22 give him time and the correct coaching and he can be better then n'zonzi he just needs to track back and learn when to release the ball but Bojan seems to be struggling with that as well.
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 25, 2016 8:36:05 GMT
Personally I think we have the better player in Imbulla. Was disappointed he left, but was far from irreplaceable. And have we done that despite throwing bucket loads of cash attempting to do so. Imbula is a talented lad who will hopefully realise that talent at Stoke but what we needed was an immediate replacement who was up to speed.
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Post by Jimmyg on Aug 25, 2016 8:42:11 GMT
Massively overrated and I'll be amazed if someone actually pays it rather than just linked. In a way I hope they do, as I've neither seen or heard much of him since and it would be a way to see him back in this league and stop the myth that is nzonzi. Massively overrated? Yeah he was so average we couldn't keep hold of him for love nor money ! Just out of interest who do regard as a top class midfielder?
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Post by Olgrligm on Aug 25, 2016 8:49:29 GMT
Must. Not. Slate. Hierarchy. Must. Not. Slate. Hierarchy. Must. Not. Slate. Hierarchy. Must. Not. Slate. Hierarchy. Good for Leicester! How could we slate them? He wanted to go and had 12 months on his contract. We either got another 12 months mileage but no cash, or some cash but no mileage. Neither were great options, but little else we could do was there? You could say the same of Berahino, who's going for £20,000,000!
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Post by mattface on Aug 25, 2016 8:55:09 GMT
Personally I think we have the better player in Imbulla. Was disappointed he left, but was far from irreplaceable. And have we done that despite throwing bucket loads of cash attempting to do so. Imbula is a talented lad who will hopefully realise that talent at Stoke but what we needed was an immediate replacement who was up to speed. From my perspective in Imbulla we have. Yes he's had some poor games but so did Nzonzi, he's also been our best player in games too as was Nzonzi.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2016 9:00:50 GMT
I've long since given up looking what Sevilla fans think of N'Zonzi, it's too depressing. £25m for a Europa League winning midfielder seems fair enough (in this climate). I watched much of the Super League game against Barcelona and everything went through N'Zonzi. Like it or not, he's thriving over there.
What I find most bizarre is how utterly misunderstood he was while at Stoke. I listened to the Europa League final on 5Live. The commentator said he was a central defender at Stoke, and had been transformed by Sevilla. One misplaced pass in that match had Mark Lawrenson chortling, "There's Stoke N'Zonzi". Baffling.
I can't see why he'd want to return. However, it was reported that his Sevilla move meant a pay cut, so perhaps...
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Post by babylon on Aug 25, 2016 9:01:35 GMT
More fxxxxxx fools Leicester then- they could have signed him for £8m twelve months ago. We did try if you don't remember.
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Post by Rick Grimes on Aug 25, 2016 9:06:37 GMT
How could we slate them? He wanted to go and had 12 months on his contract. We either got another 12 months mileage but no cash, or some cash but no mileage. Neither were great options, but little else we could do was there? You could say the same of Berahino, who's going for £20,000,000! The difference being that unless Berahino agrees a move abroad (seems unlikely) West Brom have the safety net of going to a tribunal and therefore receiving a fee regardless of what happens. We didn't have the same luxury with N'Zonzi.
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Post by thebet365 on Aug 25, 2016 9:08:37 GMT
How could we slate them? He wanted to go and had 12 months on his contract. We either got another 12 months mileage but no cash, or some cash but no mileage. Neither were great options, but little else we could do was there? You could say the same of Berahino, who's going for £20,000,000! 1. Transfer fees have gone stupid since 12 months ago 2. Zonz would leave on a free, Berahino is still under 25 so will command a tribunal (At least 8 Mill) unless he goes abroad which he won't because he won't get the money there that he'll get here. That is why his fee is still over inflated.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2016 9:09:15 GMT
I've long since given up looking what Sevilla fans think of N'Zonzi, it's too depressing. £25m for a Europa League winning midfielder seems fair enough (in this climate). I watched much of the Super League game against Barcelona and everything went through N'Zonzi. Like it or not, he's thriving over there. What I find most bizarre is how utterly misunderstood he was while at Stoke. I listened to the Europa League final on 5Live. The commentator said he was a central defender at Stoke, and had been transformed by Sevilla. One misplaced pass in that match had Mark Lawrenson chortling, "There's Stoke N'Zonzi". Baffling. I can't see why he'd want to return. However, it was reported that his Sevilla move meant a pay cut, so perhaps... Lawrenson thinks he's clever, but when Joe Allen went through against Citeh and turned and passed it backwards, I sat there and sniggered "There's Liverpool Allen".
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