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Bojan
Aug 13, 2016 19:31:08 GMT
Post by sportsman on Aug 13, 2016 19:31:08 GMT
They were woeful Paul but along with Imbula was easily our best player Always busy and always after the ball Not for me. A peripheral figure, easily snuffed out by the opposition, rightly subbed and a pale shadow of the player we had pre-injury But a player we have to keep playing and encouraging to get on the ball. He will make things happen.
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Post by ChrisKamarasPerm on Aug 13, 2016 19:32:23 GMT
Certainly a player Mark and his team rate highly.
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Bojan
Aug 13, 2016 19:33:58 GMT
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Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 13, 2016 19:33:58 GMT
Not for me. A peripheral figure, easily snuffed out by the opposition, rightly subbed and a pale shadow of the player we had pre-injury But a player we have to keep playing and encouraging to get on the ball. He will make things happen. Absolutely. Of that there is no doubt
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2016 6:29:50 GMT
Stoke looked much better when Afellay played in that position it gave a presence in the middle of the park. Let Bojan play upfront and let Imbula play his role with Whelan and Allen as holdingmidfielders. It should make us a tighter unit. When Afellay returns it could be him and Allen as holdingmidfielders.
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Post by VolvicStokie on Aug 14, 2016 7:12:35 GMT
Only problem is Affelay isn't back until December at least and even then he'll need to get match fitness
We won't see much of him until February
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Post by luke45 on Aug 14, 2016 8:30:15 GMT
Attachment DeletedI thought he looked pretty sharp to be honest and created some good openings for us, as you can see he completed 15/19 passes in the attacking third of the pitch. His set pieces were disappointing though, got to hope we can improve in that area throughout the season.
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Post by numpty40 on Aug 14, 2016 8:33:38 GMT
View AttachmentI thought he looked pretty sharp to be honest and created some good openings for us, as you can see he completed 15/19 passes in the attacking third of the pitch. His set pieces were disappointing though, got to hope we can improve in that area throughout the season. So he didn't give the ball away 9 Times out of 10:-)
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Post by luke45 on Aug 14, 2016 8:40:25 GMT
View AttachmentI thought he looked pretty sharp to be honest and created some good openings for us, as you can see he completed 15/19 passes in the attacking third of the pitch. His set pieces were disappointing though, got to hope we can improve in that area throughout the season. So he didn't give the ball away 9 Times out of 10:-) Completed 31/37 of his passes overall, which is about an 84% pass success rate. Not bad really when you consider the type of passes he predominantly makes, which are designed to open up defences and create chances for us. Attachment Deleted
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Bojan
Aug 14, 2016 8:45:46 GMT
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Post by caine on Aug 14, 2016 8:45:46 GMT
Didn't have his best game but still was positive just tried to do to much yesterday as did a few players (shaq, Arni). It wil come!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2016 12:21:38 GMT
The more games he plays the better he will get
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Post by pottersrule on Aug 14, 2016 13:06:28 GMT
The two corners he took which didn't even stay in play were simply dreadful. Not acceptable at schoolboy level, never mind when you're getting paid a quarter of a million a month to be a professional at the sport. They were woeful Paul but along with Imbula was easily our best player Always busy and always after the ball Just shows how people who actually didn't go to the game should not generally comment on player performance. I had Imbula down as Mom,but from my dodgy stream had got the impression that Bojan was ineffective and lightweight.You just can't get a proper perspective on Tv.
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Bojan
Aug 14, 2016 13:31:39 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2016 13:31:39 GMT
That was his 50th game for Stoke, too. Time flies!
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Bojan
Aug 14, 2016 13:32:58 GMT
Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Aug 14, 2016 13:32:58 GMT
Top players motivate themselves & help to get the others pumped up. He gets paid 70k every week & still needs someone to motivate him to do his job every week? The management team can't single out Bojan every time & give him special attention. Imbula heard the exact same words that Bojan did and he was the one getting the whole team going today. Not convinced, the team don't seem to get out of second gear anymore. Im convinced this slow posession football is the reason/problem, we dont look full of energy, the inverted wingers thing aswell, its not as effective as believed is it. For all these star players we have we're pretty damned shit & clueless arn't we?! We lack a bite and we have for a while, im convinced its the type of players he goes for, he likes technically gifted players. I want to see more players with the 'dna' myself. Im predicting a carbon copy of last season, making hard work of attacking and unorganised at the back and set-pieces. I think hughes' posessoon based between the lines 4-2-3-1 football is a bit shit tbh, playing like that we should be playing a high line, high tempo pressing football but we dont have the players with the ethic for it, i'm unsure of where hes going with it tbh and i dont think berahino will make a huge difference, he's more of the same. For me get a benteke in and start getting some cros ses in with bojan feeding of the pieces from behind. Comitted fast tempo football is more us imo Committed fast tempo football was more us - it isn't anymore. You said yourself we don't have the players for that type of game and Hughes plays a possession game. The only way that is going to happen is if we sack the manager and replace the current squad. And if Hughes keeps delivering top half finishes that isn't going to happen anytime soon and it certainly isn't going to happen before the end of this transfer window. I don't think you're going to enjoy this season or any other for that matter while Hughes is our manager. I really hope Bojan gets back to the form he was in before the injury. He's not there yet but is certainly looking better than he did towards the end of last season. Hopefully when everyone gets sharper and the players get on each others wave length the possession football will start to pay off. But I expect we'll have a few more stuttering performances like yesterday before that happens.
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Post by chicagostokie on Aug 14, 2016 13:42:56 GMT
I'm a big fan of Bojan, however he just hasn't looked the same for quite some time. As a team, the front four need to be fast, fluid and creative, I'm just not seeing that. I can't believe we have such attacking flair and yet create and score very little. At times its pedestrian and we run out of ideas in the final third. I feel sorry for Diouf with this playing style.
My concern is that whilst Bojan isn't playing well, yet starting, it also prevents Shaq from playing in his best position. He needs to be down the middle where he can be busy and influence the game, not shoved out on the right wing and under utilised. If Hughes continues to play this formation, he needs to allow Arnie, Shaq and Bojan to interchange positions more often to unsettle teams and create more.
I'm just not sure what tactics we are employing at the moment.
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Bojan
Aug 14, 2016 14:27:17 GMT
Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 14, 2016 14:27:17 GMT
Stoke looked much better when Afellay played in that position it gave a presence in the middle of the park. Let Bojan play upfront and let Imbula play his role with Whelan and Allen as holdingmidfielders. It should make us a tighter unit. When Afellay returns it could be him and Allen as holdingmidfielders. I still don't think Afellay will return tbh.
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Bojan
Aug 14, 2016 21:07:37 GMT
Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Aug 14, 2016 21:07:37 GMT
I think Hughes will be playing Whelan AND Allen in most away games this season with Imbula the attacking midfielder.
Bojan will be in and out of the team again I think, though he may play a more prominent role in home games
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Bojan
Aug 15, 2016 11:26:30 GMT
Post by Rick Grimes on Aug 15, 2016 11:26:30 GMT
I thought he did ok.
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Bojan
Aug 15, 2016 11:35:21 GMT
Post by Jug Bank Stokie on Aug 15, 2016 11:35:21 GMT
I thought he was decent second half but don't think he touched the ball for the first 10-15 minutes of the game.
Funny how people see games differently, I thought Imbula was average where as Woodgate described him as awesome or immense (can't remember which) on Goals on Sunday.
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Bojan
Aug 15, 2016 12:06:01 GMT
Post by Paul Spencer on Aug 15, 2016 12:06:01 GMT
They were woeful Paul but along with Imbula was easily our best player Always busy and always after the ball Just shows how people who actually didn't go to the game should not generally comment on player performance.
I had Imbula down as Mom,but from my dodgy stream had got the impression that Bojan was ineffective and lightweight.You just can't get a proper perspective on Tv.
Rubbish mate.
So you're saying that Gary Neville, Chris Kamara, Alan Hansen etc. shouldn't comment on the player performances that they've watched too?
I didn't comment on Bojan's performance per se but rather on the dreadful corners he took and they were dreadful.
Oh and for what it's worth, I watched the game in Hd and I thought Bojan offered very little, Imbula clearly put in a better performance - just my opinion like.
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Post by werrington on Aug 15, 2016 12:13:12 GMT
Just shows how people who actually didn't go to the game should not generally comment on player performance.
I had Imbula down as Mom,but from my dodgy stream had got the impression that Bojan was ineffective and lightweight.You just can't get a proper perspective on Tv.
Rubbish mate.
So you're saying that Gary Neville, Chris Kamara, Alan Hansen etc. shouldn't comment on the player performances that they've watched too?
I didn't comment on Bojan's performance per se but rather on the dreadful corners he took and they were dreadful.
Oh and for what it's worth, I watched the game in Hd and I thought Bojan offered very little, Imbula clearly put in a better performance - just my opinion like.
Opinions are great mate but perception is often unfair ...if you look at the Diouf thread we have people who clearly weren't there so couldn't see his runs and asking for the ball...they could only see his ( in their mind ) non involvement
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Bojan
Aug 15, 2016 12:18:23 GMT
Post by Paul Spencer on Aug 15, 2016 12:18:23 GMT
Rubbish mate.
So you're saying that Gary Neville, Chris Kamara, Alan Hansen etc. shouldn't comment on the player performances that they've watched too?
I didn't comment on Bojan's performance per se but rather on the dreadful corners he took and they were dreadful.
Oh and for what it's worth, I watched the game in Hd and I thought Bojan offered very little, Imbula clearly put in a better performance - just my opinion like.
Opinions are great mate but perception is often unfair ...if you look at the Diouf thread we have people who clearly weren't there so couldn't see his runs and asking for the ball...they could only see his ( in their mind ) non involvement
I wasn't there but I could see him making his runs, it was being talked about on the match day thread.
Rob wasn't there but the issue of Bojan, Shaqiri and Arnie all being selfish and not putting him in when he was making his runs, is one of the main conclusions in his (absolutely excellent) match report.
Many people just see what they want to see, be they watching the match on the TV or watching it in the stands.
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Bojan
Aug 15, 2016 12:21:23 GMT
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Post by werrington on Aug 15, 2016 12:21:23 GMT
Opinions are great mate but perception is often unfair ...if you look at the Diouf thread we have people who clearly weren't there so couldn't see his runs and asking for the ball...they could only see his ( in their mind ) non involvement
I wasn't there but I could see him making his runs, it was being talked about on the match day thread.
Rob wasn't there but the issue of Bojan, Shaqiri and Arnie all being selfish and not putting him in when he was making his runs, is one of the main conclusions in his (absolutely excellent) match report.
Many people just see what they want to see, be they watching the match on the TV or watching it in the stands.
I wasn't knocking anybody for not attending the game Paul ...far from it
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Post by Paul Spencer on Aug 15, 2016 12:24:09 GMT
I wasn't there but I could see him making his runs, it was being talked about on the match day thread.
Rob wasn't there but the issue of Bojan, Shaqiri and Arnie all being selfish and not putting him in when he was making his runs, is one of the main conclusions in his (absolutely excellent) match report.
Many people just see what they want to see, be they watching the match on the TV or watching it in the stands.
I wasn't knocking anybody for not attending the game Paul ...far from it
I didn't think you were mate.
I'm just disagreeing with pottersrule in that you don't have to have attended a match to be able to have a valid opinion on it.
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Bojan
Aug 15, 2016 12:46:56 GMT
Post by pottersrule on Aug 15, 2016 12:46:56 GMT
Just shows how people who actually didn't go to the game should not generally comment on player performance.
I had Imbula down as Mom,but from my dodgy stream had got the impression that Bojan was ineffective and lightweight.You just can't get a proper perspective on Tv.
Rubbish mate.
So you're saying that Gary Neville, Chris Kamara, Alan Hansen etc. shouldn't comment on the player performances that they've watched too?
I didn't comment on Bojan's performance per se but rather on the dreadful corners he took and they were dreadful.
Oh and for what it's worth, I watched the game in Hd and I thought Bojan offered very little, Imbula clearly put in a better performance - just my opinion like.
As i said i watched mine on a dodgy stream so is hard for me to comment. However Jonathan Woodgate who was at the game,and was a guest on goals on Sunday said Imbula was the stand out performer on the field and Bojan was very impressive. That ties in with what Werrington said,who also went to the game. I did say generally and did not say professional pundits should not comment did i? I don't think many saw an hd quality live stream on Saturday, some didn't even see the game but we're offering comments, that was my point.
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Bojan
Aug 15, 2016 13:13:07 GMT
Post by Paul Spencer on Aug 15, 2016 13:13:07 GMT
Rubbish mate.
So you're saying that Gary Neville, Chris Kamara, Alan Hansen etc. shouldn't comment on the player performances that they've watched too?
I didn't comment on Bojan's performance per se but rather on the dreadful corners he took and they were dreadful.
Oh and for what it's worth, I watched the game in Hd and I thought Bojan offered very little, Imbula clearly put in a better performance - just my opinion like.
As i said i watched mine on a dodgy stream so is hard for me to comment. However Jonathan Woodgate who was at the game,and was a guest on goals on Sunday said Imbula was the stand out performer on the field and Bojan was very impressive. That ties in with what Werrington said,who also went to the game. I did say generally and did not say professional pundits should not comment did i? I don't think many saw an hd quality live stream on Saturday, some didn't even see the game but we're offering comments, that was my point.
Ah, thanks for clearing that up.
I'm sure you can appreciate that your original comment seemed to imply that people who weren't actually there shouldn't be 'generally' commenting on player performances.
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Bojan
Aug 15, 2016 15:28:31 GMT
Post by pottersrule on Aug 15, 2016 15:28:31 GMT
As i said i watched mine on a dodgy stream so is hard for me to comment. However Jonathan Woodgate who was at the game,and was a guest on goals on Sunday said Imbula was the stand out performer on the field and Bojan was very impressive. That ties in with what Werrington said,who also went to the game. I did say generally and did not say professional pundits should not comment did i? I don't think many saw an hd quality live stream on Saturday, some didn't even see the game but we're offering comments, that was my point.
Ah, thanks for clearing that up.
I'm sure you can appreciate that your original comment seemed to imply that people who weren't actually there shouldn't be 'generally' commenting on player performances.
No problem matey,i don't mind putting an addendum in now and again for the more pedantic and captious amongst us.
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Bojan
Aug 15, 2016 15:34:14 GMT
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Post by Cast no shadow on Aug 15, 2016 15:34:14 GMT
One game
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Bojan
Aug 15, 2016 15:42:29 GMT
Post by penkvillepotter on Aug 15, 2016 15:42:29 GMT
Only 2 players tried to take the fight to Boro. Imbula and less successfully Bojan but credit to him for trying when others were content to go sideways or backwards. I am hoping like mad that Bojan just needs a few games to get back to what he was. Hopefully good memories of Man City last season will spur him on this weekend.
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Bojan
Aug 15, 2016 15:46:57 GMT
Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2016 15:46:57 GMT
Only 2 players tried to take the fight to Boro. Imbula and less successfully Bojan but credit to him for trying when others were content to go sideways or backwards. I am hoping like mad that Bojan just needs a few games to get back to what he was. Hopefully good memories of Man City last season will spur him on this weekend.
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Bojan
Aug 15, 2016 15:51:21 GMT
Post by stantheman on Aug 15, 2016 15:51:21 GMT
Only 2 players tried to take the fight to Boro. Imbula and less successfully Bojan but credit to him for trying when others were content to go sideways or backwards. I am hoping like mad that Bojan just needs a few games to get back to what he was. Hopefully good memories of Man City last season will spur him on this weekend. Imbula needs players flying past him to pass to when he's steaming through the middle with the ball, and that just doesn't happen.
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