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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Mar 17, 2017 22:21:08 GMT
"Fight against hard Brexit or be a 'disappointment' to your children" - Tim Farron, The Independent. Tim nice but dim keeping that project fear rolling.
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Post by hammered on Mar 17, 2017 23:47:07 GMT
Europe (EU) is crapping itself. We the English, Scots, Welsh, N,Irish - the UK - is a fundamental part of this whole Euro zone to gel and work. The Brexit vote was a proper arse filler.
Filling our budget is their only concern cause they care not for our heritage, religion, culture and customs.
And as predicted 50 pages back the establishment roll on conditioning acceptance of (invasion) by the EU of migrant youth/mid age from wherever - neither documented or tracked.
I don't think the UK will suffer anything the mainland is going to get next decade but I'm glad we've a bit of water and a tunnel we can collapse.
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Post by bathstoke on Mar 18, 2017 6:52:41 GMT
Europe (EU) is crapping itself. We the English, Scots, Welsh, N,Irish - the UK - is a fundamental part of this whole Euro zone to gel and work. The Brexit vote was a proper arse filler. Filling our budget is their only concern cause they care not for our heritage, religion, culture and customs. And as predicted 50 pages back the establishment roll on conditioning acceptance of (invasion) by the EU of migrant youth/mid age from wherever - neither documented or tracked. I don't think the UK will suffer anything the mainland is going to get next decade but I'm glad we've a bit of water and a tunnel we can collapse. It Didn't stop them £@#&!ng Normans ☹️
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Post by Northy on Mar 18, 2017 8:22:14 GMT
Europe (EU) is crapping itself. We the English, Scots, Welsh, N,Irish - the UK - is a fundamental part of this whole Euro zone to gel and work. The Brexit vote was a proper arse filler. Filling our budget is their only concern cause they care not for our heritage, religion, culture and customs. And as predicted 50 pages back the establishment roll on conditioning acceptance of (invasion) by the EU of migrant youth/mid age from wherever - neither documented or tracked. I don't think the UK will suffer anything the mainland is going to get next decade but I'm glad we've a bit of water and a tunnel we can collapse. It Didn't stop them £@#&!ng Normans ☹️ yes, but if we hadnt had to march 200 miles to fight and defeat the vikings then march back south again to face the normans it would have been different, a good job we are stopping one lot coming in so we can face another lot fresh
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Post by salopstick on Mar 20, 2017 15:35:23 GMT
Article 50 triggered next week
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2017 16:41:06 GMT
According to some reports juncker has told the uk....‘Eat what is on the table’ He's threatened May with 'take it or leave it' Brexit deal The eu has prepared a divorce bill of up to £60billion as part of their “take-it-or-leave-it” Brexit deal for Britain. Apparently he says the uk must not be allowed to be an equal And with Blair kinnocks farron clegg major and all the other cunts in this country that have stuck the knife in their own nations backs And add to that a dithering weak as piss government this is going to be embarrassing Won't be long before we're back at square one, being shit on from a great height by Brussels and any other country that fancies it
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Mar 20, 2017 17:10:40 GMT
According to some reports juncker has told the uk....‘Eat what is on the table’ He's threatened May with 'take it or leave it' Brexit deal The eu has prepared a divorce bill of up to £60billion as part of their “take-it-or-leave-it” Brexit deal for Britain. Apparently he says the uk must not be allowed to be an equal And with Blair kinnocks farron clegg major and all the other cunts in this country that have stuck the knife in their own nations backs And add to that a dithering weak as piss government this is going to be embarrassing Won't be long before we're back at square one, being shit on from a great height by Brussels and any other country that fancies it Are you David Davis' chief strategist?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2017 17:15:44 GMT
According to some reports juncker has told the uk....‘Eat what is on the table’ He's threatened May with 'take it or leave it' Brexit deal The eu has prepared a divorce bill of up to £60billion as part of their “take-it-or-leave-it” Brexit deal for Britain. Apparently he says the uk must not be allowed to be an equal And with Blair kinnocks farron clegg major and all the other cunts in this country that have stuck the knife in their own nations backs And add to that a dithering weak as piss government this is going to be embarrassing Won't be long before we're back at square one, being shit on from a great height by Brussels and any other country that fancies it Are you David Davis' chief strategist? Just saying it as I see it slowly panning out. Don't worry. What I say and you say won't affect the outcome.
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Post by felonious on Mar 20, 2017 17:39:50 GMT
According to some reports juncker has told the uk....‘Eat what is on the table’ He's threatened May with 'take it or leave it' Brexit deal The eu has prepared a divorce bill of up to £60billion as part of their “take-it-or-leave-it” Brexit deal for Britain. Apparently he says the uk must not be allowed to be an equal And with Blair kinnocks farron clegg major and all the other cunts in this country that have stuck the knife in their own nations backs And add to that a dithering weak as piss government this is going to be embarrassing Won't be long before we're back at square one, being shit on from a great height by Brussels and any other country that fancies it All together now.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2017 17:46:27 GMT
According to some reports juncker has told the uk....‘Eat what is on the table’ He's threatened May with 'take it or leave it' Brexit deal The eu has prepared a divorce bill of up to £60billion as part of their “take-it-or-leave-it” Brexit deal for Britain. Apparently he says the uk must not be allowed to be an equal And with Blair kinnocks farron clegg major and all the other cunts in this country that have stuck the knife in their own nations backs And add to that a dithering weak as piss government this is going to be embarrassing Won't be long before we're back at square one, being shit on from a great height by Brussels and any other country that fancies it All together now.
That tune is just how I feel mate. Please persuade me differently
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Post by felonious on Mar 20, 2017 17:52:26 GMT
That tune is just how I feel mate. Please persuade me differently Opening salvo from a failed bureaucrat. All they had to do is to offer something to Cameron and they fooked that up.
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Post by Skankmonkey on Mar 20, 2017 17:58:35 GMT
Given all the other requirements I think it's vanishingly unlikely that we will be able to complete a free trade deal as well by March 2019. I'd say we will end up trading as per WTO or stuck in some transitional arrangement that pleases no one.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2017 18:12:18 GMT
Given all the other requirements I think it's vanishingly unlikely that we will be able to complete a free trade deal as well by March 2019. I'd say we will end up trading as per WTO or stuck in some transitional arrangement that pleases no one. Ply the That would be music to my ears
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Post by Skankmonkey on Mar 20, 2017 18:15:17 GMT
Given all the other requirements I think it's vanishingly unlikely that we will be able to complete a free trade deal as well by March 2019. I'd say we will end up trading as per WTO or stuck in some transitional arrangement that pleases no one. Ply the That would be music to my ears Que?
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Mar 20, 2017 18:17:33 GMT
Given all the other requirements I think it's vanishingly unlikely that we will be able to complete a free trade deal as well by March 2019. I'd say we will end up trading as per WTO or stuck in some transitional arrangement that pleases no one. According to this BBC article - www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-39143978 - the two-year period can be extended if both parties agree to it.
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Post by felonious on Mar 20, 2017 18:17:51 GMT
Ply the That would be music to my ears Que? She's using unpredictive text again
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Post by Skankmonkey on Mar 20, 2017 18:19:27 GMT
She's using unpredictive text again It dunner take much baffle me.
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Post by Skankmonkey on Mar 20, 2017 18:25:46 GMT
Given all the other requirements I think it's vanishingly unlikely that we will be able to complete a free trade deal as well by March 2019. I'd say we will end up trading as per WTO or stuck in some transitional arrangement that pleases no one. According to this BBC article - www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-39143978 - the two-year period can be extended if both parties agree to it. That's right. All the individual member states have to agree though. Looking through that article, there's a lot to get through in what is effectively 16/17 months of actual negotiation. Never mind trade!.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2017 19:05:45 GMT
Great listen..."the people will eventually learn"
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2017 19:07:41 GMT
She's using unpredictive text again correct......" PLIBT "
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Post by Skankmonkey on Mar 20, 2017 19:12:34 GMT
She's using unpredictive text again correct......" PLIBT " Right. I thought it was a knitting instruction.
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Post by felonious on Mar 20, 2017 19:25:09 GMT
Great listen..."the people will eventually learn" Interesting. A questioner being polite and listening to answers and getting a proper debate out of it.
Common Market....European Economic Community...European Union....you can see the direction of travel.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2017 20:54:41 GMT
Great listen..."the people will eventually learn" Interesting. A questioner being polite and listening to answers and getting a proper debate out of it.
Common Market....European Economic Community...European Union....you can see the direction of travel.
This is the thing. the people on here that we're arguing against farage etc years back used the argument that the eu was not looking for a United States of Europe, were not hell bent on a European army, Romanians will not come to the uk All these things have been confirmed but that argument has been wiped to the back of their memory and they move to support the next lies That argument failed
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Post by hammered on Mar 20, 2017 21:44:51 GMT
Apparently (read somewhere) we’ve no obligation (legally) to pay anything let alone £60m – no one in the EU bubble had considered a divorce – in fact our net contribution and share in EU assets over 4 decades should really see it come back to us IMO.
I’d reason since the vote we’ve been tapping up global contacts and have a number of (in-principle) deals already sorted, particularly with big corporates or where we are a significant reason for their profits. Junker/Merkel can’t control the force that is the German car industry or da, da.. and the EU being punitive with us will have a knock-on effect for them.
It will be business interests that dictate the politics despite the rhetoric of EU despots.
Point is I think we already know that getting 27 member states to agree on our exit deal is a long-time to never path and there’s sufficient goodwill already shown by existing interests or other potential trading partners for us to by-pass all this bullshit and pull the plug properly or at least within the two years. WTO works both ways as does supply and demand – Toyota, Nissan etc.. seem to know something.
As for Benn - the man had vision, honesty and integrity.
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Post by followyoudown on Mar 20, 2017 22:29:30 GMT
Apparently (read somewhere) we’ve no obligation (legally) to pay anything let alone £60m – no one in the EU bubble had considered a divorce – in fact our net contribution and share in EU assets over 4 decades should really see it come back to us IMO. I’d reason since the vote we’ve been tapping up global contacts and have a number of (in-principle) deals already sorted, particularly with big corporates or where we are a significant reason for their profits. Junker/Merkel can’t control the force that is the German car industry or da, da.. and the EU being punitive with us will have a knock-on effect for them. It will be business interests that dictate the politics despite the rhetoric of EU despots. Point is I think we already know that getting 27 member states to agree on our exit deal is a long-time to never path and there’s sufficient goodwill already shown by existing interests or other potential trading partners for us to by-pass all this bullshit and pull the plug properly or at least within the two years. WTO works both ways as does supply and demand – Toyota, Nissan etc.. seem to know something. As for Benn - the man had vision, honesty and integrity. Yep we just need to hold our nerve now, offer some smallish portion of the divorce bill for tariff free access and any other parts we want to keep and tell them it's upto them. If the EU turns it down its them that looks unreasonable and will have to explain to the soon to be unemployed spanish or German car maker or Irish or French farmer why they made that decision. It would be unprecedented for two trading blocks to choose to enact tariffs where there had previously been none if the EU chooses to go there so be it.
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Post by hammered on Mar 20, 2017 22:50:40 GMT
Add that the lunatic running the US holds (down the steps) Theresa's hand but shuns Merkel's - add the Oz, Indian CW/history with Chinese potential and there's a huge consideration to be made. As I keep repeating they are (EU) inwardly incandescent with rage, know our £350m a week keeps the dream alive...
Expect hardball from both sides, the pound and shares to fly about all over plus lots of BBC/MSM conditioning to the fudge I expect we'll be treated to or we'll maybe (with enough pressure) grow some and break free properly.
We have less to fear (given recent world events) controlling our destiny than being part of a failing plan.
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Post by Northy on Mar 21, 2017 8:32:00 GMT
the big question is did merkel turn Trump down, thats why he blanked her, and would @billybigbollox put a smile on Angelas face ?
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Post by followyoudown on Mar 21, 2017 11:31:01 GMT
order-order.com/2017/03/21/early-deals-ready-to-go-after-article-50/Interesting "The government is ready to announce a series of early deals with the EU in the first few weeks and months after Article 50 is triggered." "Government figures say they have been holding ‘informal’ talks with EU countries, in particular Germany, over a number of agreements that aim to show goodwill at the beginning of the negotiations and the potential for a mutually beneficial Brexit." Jean Claude who
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Post by thevoid on Mar 21, 2017 11:37:52 GMT
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Mar 21, 2017 12:05:48 GMT
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