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Post by luke45 on Jun 8, 2016 11:15:59 GMT
This is the likely route to the final for England:
Group stage: Wales, Russia, Slovakia
Last 16: Ukraine or Croatia
Quarter-final: Italy or Portugal
Semi-final: Spain
Final: France or Germany
I genuinely see no reason why we can't be optimistic that England can reach the semi-finals and achieve our best tournament finish for 20 years.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jun 8, 2016 11:24:29 GMT
This is the likely route to the final for England: Group stage: Wales, Russia, Slovakia Last 16: Ukraine or Croatia Quarter-final: Italy or Portugal Semi-final: Spain Final: France or Germany I genuinely see no reason why we can't be optimistic that England can reach the semi-finals and achieve our best tournament finish for 20 years.
I share your optimism Luke but I'd also feel a whole lot more confident if I believed that Roy actually had a handle on what his best team is.
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Post by werrington on Jun 8, 2016 11:35:45 GMT
I think people are just sick and tired of getting behind them to be let down. I used to get so excited for these tournaments, but you see the performances the players put in and they clearly don't give a fuck. Why should we? I say this, but around 6 o clock on Saturday I'll start believing again...only to be let down again! I think they do give a fuck. The not giving a fuck thing is getting boring now isn't it mate |
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Post by luke45 on Jun 8, 2016 11:44:30 GMT
This is the likely route to the final for England: Group stage: Wales, Russia, Slovakia Last 16: Ukraine or Croatia Quarter-final: Italy or Portugal Semi-final: Spain Final: France or Germany I genuinely see no reason why we can't be optimistic that England can reach the semi-finals and achieve our best tournament finish for 20 years.
I share your optimism Luke but I'd also feel a whole lot more confident if I believed that Roy actually had a handle on what his best team is.
It is a bit concerning that we still don't appear to have a settled formation yet. I'm not a fan of the diamond to be honest, I know it's worked on occasions like when we were 2-0 down to Germany and switched to it but it failed miserably in our home defeat to Holland and it wasn't convincing the other week against Portugal either. I think I'd prefer a 4-2-3-1 to be honest and I'd be tempted to play Dier and Milner as the two and Dele Alli in behind Kane in the number 10 role. We've got some superb attacking options, hopefully Hodgson can get the best out of them when it matters. The defence is obviously a concern, only 1 clean sheet in 5 since the new year, you would think Walker - Cahill - Smalling - Rose will be his settled choice now though. Fingers crossed we can finally do ourselves justice on the big stage! |
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Post by Pugsley on Jun 8, 2016 11:49:11 GMT
This is the likely route to the final for England: Group stage: Wales, Russia, Slovakia Last 16: Ukraine or Croatia Quarter-final: Italy or Portugal Semi-final: Spain Final: France or Germany I genuinely see no reason why we can't be optimistic that England can reach the semi-finals and achieve our best tournament finish for 20 years. Has Woy wesigned then? |
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Post by Bick on Jun 8, 2016 11:57:36 GMT
If we lose to Russia, everyone will be pessimistic and expect us to drop out of the group.
If we beat them, everyone will be talking about England winning the whole thing.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2016 11:59:08 GMT
This is the likely route to the final for England: Group stage: Wales, Russia, Slovakia Last 16: Ukraine or Croatia Quarter-final: Italy or Portugal Semi-final: Spain Final: France or Germany I genuinely see no reason why we can't be optimistic that England can reach the semi-finals and achieve our best tournament finish for 20 years. Looking at your likely route I think we are looking at another quarter-final exit at best. Hope I'm wrong but I have no faith in Woy whatsoever. |
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Post by JoeinOz on Jun 8, 2016 14:52:11 GMT
This is the likely route to the final for England: Group stage: Wales, Russia, Slovakia Last 16: Ukraine or Croatia Quarter-final: Italy or Portugal Semi-final: Spain Final: France or Germany I genuinely see no reason why we can't be optimistic that England can reach the semi-finals and achieve our best tournament finish for 20 years. Looking at your likely route I think we are looking at another quarter-final exit at best. Hope I'm wrong but I have no faith in Woy whatsoever. For England quarter final is OK. |
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Post by Pugsley on Jun 8, 2016 16:58:35 GMT
Looking at your likely route I think we are looking at another quarter-final exit at best. Hope I'm wrong but I have no faith in Woy whatsoever. For England quarter final is OK. No it isn't, anything but winning it is a failure. |
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Post by JoeinOz on Jun 8, 2016 17:01:26 GMT
For England quarter final is OK. No it isn't, anything but winning it is a failure. You are basing that on nothing |
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Post by Pugsley on Jun 8, 2016 17:26:38 GMT
No it isn't, anything but winning it is a failure. You are basing that on nothing I'm basing it on the biggest budgets, highest salaries, best facilities, no expense spared National football team on the planet. |
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Post by JoeinOz on Jun 8, 2016 17:36:11 GMT
You are basing that on nothing I'm basing it on the biggest budgets, highest salaries, best facilities, no expense spared National football team on the planet. Highest salaries? Do you think Messi is a pauper? Those things have little to do with it all. Not enough relevance to overshadow the huge overriding factors anyway. NOT sure they have the best facilities though. |
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Post by enuntio on Jun 8, 2016 17:42:24 GMT
I'm basing it on the biggest budgets, highest salaries, best facilities, no expense spared National football team on the planet. Highest salaries? Do you think Messi is a pauper? Those things have little to do with it all. Not enough relevance to overshadow the huge overriding factors anyway. NOT sure they have the best facilities though. Can Messi play in this tournament Joe? Did Denmark once win this competition? It's all Greek to me COME ON ENGLAND... |
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Post by JoeinOz on Jun 8, 2016 17:46:03 GMT
Highest salaries? Do you think Messi is a pauper? Those things have little to do with it all. Not enough relevance to overshadow the huge overriding factors anyway. NOT sure they have the best facilities though. Can Messi play in this tournament Joe? Did Denmark once win this competition? It's all Greek to me COME ON ENGLAND... But lots of great players earn lots of money. COME ON ENGLAND is spot on. ????☺ |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2016 8:03:47 GMT
4 cars in a 5 mile stretch all with flags this morning...it's slowly building up.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2016 8:58:34 GMT
I don't think it has anything to do with accusations of being racist or confirmation of patriotism at all... I just think people realise how fucking shit they look and that you cant open those windows in the nice hot whether without losing them.
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Post by stayingupfor GermanStokie on Jun 9, 2016 9:37:23 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 9, 2016 9:46:52 GMT
I think they do give a fuck. The not giving a fuck thing is getting boring now isn't it mate I give a fuck (to the point I went to Wembley mid-week to watch a friendly). I don't give a fuck if we lose though, I used to but I don't know what it is? A complete lack of expectation I guess. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2016 10:29:28 GMT
Is this enough flags for you guys?   Or what about this?  I think my grandfather got the wrong end of the stick when i mentioned flags for vehicles during the EM... Something about bringing back memories??   I heard in Germany there's a car/flag ratio of 5:1? In some cities its 3:2 Impressive  |
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Post by stayingupfor GermanStokie on Jun 9, 2016 11:32:46 GMT
Is this enough flags for you guys? Or what about this? I think my grandfather got the wrong end of the stick when i mentioned flags for vehicles during the EM... Something about bringing back memories?? I heard in Germany there's a car/flag ratio of 5:1? In some cities its 3:2 Impressive It depends where you are! In African expat communities it can be 1:4 during official testing... But also, within European Official testing under Clauses 96 and 90 they seemed to be able squeeze through using strong posts |
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Post by tcdobinghoff on Jun 9, 2016 12:28:01 GMT
Don't forget we all have to be politically correct theses days bollocks sng Could you explain this comment to me please. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2016 13:51:38 GMT
I heard in Germany there's a car/flag ratio of 5:1? In some cities its 3:2 Impressive It depends where you are! In African expat communities it can be 1:4 during official testing... But also, within European Official testing under Clauses 96 and 90 they seemed to be able squeeze through using strong posts But you have seen clauses 1918 and 1945? They override all other clauses in the european and worldwide standards |
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jun 9, 2016 13:57:02 GMT
If we beat Wales that'll be good enough for me, the rest is a bonus. I don't think I could handle those sheep shagging egg chasers beating us at our own game.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2016 15:22:47 GMT
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Post by JetBlack on Jun 9, 2016 17:47:34 GMT
I've got two on my car. I've yet to see another vehicle with any on there. I'm no racist, I'm supporting my Country, albeit in a convoluted way... If people don't like it they can kiss my arse. And you are jetblack. Actually I'm not Jet Black, if you're trying to create a race issue. I named myself after a drummer. He wasn't black either..... |
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Post by rawli on Jun 9, 2016 18:27:31 GMT
Actually I'm not Jet Black, if you're trying to create a race issue. I named myself after a drummer. He wasn't black either..... I know. It was an attempt at humour given the tripe that had gone before it. |
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Post by dutchstokie on Jun 9, 2016 18:30:30 GMT
For England quarter final is OK. No it isn't, anything but winning it is a failure. Well said that man.....this bunch of scrotes owes us big time |
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Post by stayingupfor GermanStokie on Jun 9, 2016 18:34:51 GMT
It depends where you are! In African expat communities it can be 1:4 during official testing... But also, within European Official testing under Clauses 96 and 90 they seemed to be able squeeze through using strong posts But you have seen clauses 1918 and 1945? They override all other clauses in the european and worldwide standards True!!!! But then surely these are negated by the joint interference in 1815 that caused the French to fail their testing ???????? |
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Post by JoeinOz on Jun 9, 2016 19:32:21 GMT
Is this enough flags for you guys? Or what about this? I think my grandfather got the wrong end of the stick when i mentioned flags for vehicles during the EM... Something about bringing back memories?? You can afford to be smug mate!! Semis at least! ☺ |
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Post by barcaontrent on Jun 9, 2016 19:56:43 GMT
Haven't been this excited for a tournament in a while...shame it hasn't transpired I genuinely am struggling to contain my excitement...gutted that I haven't heard radio stations playing the songs and shedloads of adverts on tv about it, I've resigned to playing a specific playlist on my iPod on my drive to and from work, but maybe it's a sign this is the year  Been waking up to three lions every morning, so up for it |
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