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Post by chrisparker on Apr 30, 2016 16:32:56 GMT
Defence looked very good. Cameron was absolutely superb today & had Defoe in his pocket for 90 mins. The penalty at the end was a shame & Defoe sure made a meal out of it but that shouldn't take away from the shift he put in for us today. Pieters did what Muniesa failed to do in the last 3 weeks & that is to defend.
Haggard was untested for the entire 90 mins.
Arnie was great again but the real difference today was bringing back good' ol Charlie, who dominated the centre of midfield today. He played very direct, always looked to play the ball forward & really bolstered the midfield. We were lacking leaders on the pitch & Adam was the player who really stepped up & took responsibility.
But he did look absolutely knackered after the 75th min & probably should've been taken off a bit earlier. But his performance is a huge positive for us.
Crouch was very decent again & so was Walters' short cameo from the bench. Imbula was anonymous in the first half but very decent in the second.
The only disappointment is that we couldn't finish them off with a second goal. We certainly had our chances but in the context of our last 3 results, this was a very decent performance from the guys.
Palace away next. They'll be focussed on the FA cup final so hopefully we can get a win there.
Against a team that's supposedly "fighting for their life" at the bottom of the table, we certainly did match them for desire & strength. "Already on the beach" they say? Cleary they don't know what they're talking about.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2016 16:34:33 GMT
Correct, albeit against a very average side.
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Post by RAF on Apr 30, 2016 16:35:58 GMT
Correct, albeit against a very average side. Not just an average side. The worst team we have played all season. H |
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Apr 30, 2016 16:36:20 GMT
The best thing was getting the ball forward quickly , a solid step in the right direction but lots more work to do , the penalty should have been no more than a consolation goal if we were more clinical
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Post by chrisparker on Apr 30, 2016 16:36:29 GMT
Correct, albeit against a very average side. They just drew against Arsenal last week & kept a clean sheet. They don't have shiny individuals but they play like a team & they're fighting for their lives at the bottom of the table. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2016 16:38:07 GMT
Massive improvements today. From the first 5 minutes you could tell we wanted it. Whelan flew into cattermole and that set us up. We deserved more than we got. Crouch imo man of match. Closely followed by Adam and arnie. No arguments from me on there pen. As clear as they come. Let's hope we take today's positives into the next 2 games and finish the season on a high
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2016 16:39:15 GMT
Correct, albeit against a very average side. They just drew against Arsenal last week & kept a clean sheet. They don't have shiny individuals but they play like a team & they're fighting for their lives at the bottom of the table. Correct. It's easy to say they are a poor side etc but today we pressed them and made them look poor. Credit to stoke today for pulling out a performance that deserved a win |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2016 16:43:27 GMT
Correct, albeit against a very average side. They just drew against Arsenal last week & kept a clean sheet. They don't have shiny individuals but they play like a team & they're fighting for their lives at the bottom of the table. Very true, but on today's evidence... |
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Post by TinkerT on Apr 30, 2016 16:46:52 GMT
Correct, albeit against a very average side. Not just an average side. The worst team we have played all season. H Coming out the ground I was pissing myself. People saying they were a good team and "worst teams have been here this season" they must have been pissed. They were the usual big Sam hoof shite with no gut, they were terrible. |
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Post by fca47 on Apr 30, 2016 16:48:04 GMT
Hard to judge Sunderland were crap, we will see how we are against West Ham, who are a good side.
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 30, 2016 16:48:40 GMT
They just drew against Arsenal last week & kept a clean sheet. They don't have shiny individuals but they play like a team & they're fighting for their lives at the bottom of the table. Correct. It's easy to say they are a poor side etc but today we pressed them and made them look poor. Credit to stoke today for pulling out a performance that deserved a win How much better did we look today with a stand in CB, ok he was at fault for the pen but overall ten times better than Wolfy, Hughes must bring in a decent CB and fingers crossed Ryan can recover fully, Wolfy Wilson and Muniesa to go in the summer. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2016 16:51:05 GMT
Correct. It's easy to say they are a poor side etc but today we pressed them and made them look poor. Credit to stoke today for pulling out a performance that deserved a win How much better did we look today with a stand in CB, ok he was at fault for the pen but overall ten times better than Wolfy, Hughes must bring in a decent CB and fingers crossed Ryan can recover fully, Wolfy Wilson and Muniesa to go in the summer. 100 times better bud. Geoff played well today. His athleticism is a huge plus but we moved the ball quicker. |
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Post by chrisparker on Apr 30, 2016 16:52:01 GMT
They just drew against Arsenal last week & kept a clean sheet. They don't have shiny individuals but they play like a team & they're fighting for their lives at the bottom of the table. Very true, but on today's evidence... No but as Clyde says you can't just say they were poor today. They were poor because we made them look poor. We pressed their midfield players high up the pitch, we didn't give Kirchhoff & Cattermole any room to operate & we forced them to make to make mistakes & just cluelessly lump the ball up the pitch. |
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Post by wuzza on Apr 30, 2016 16:55:10 GMT
Crouch gave a focus that helped but the opposition were dire and I would say it was a long long way from being a 'huge' improvement.
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Post by lordb on Apr 30, 2016 16:55:18 GMT
Correct, albeit against a very average side. Not just an average side. The worst team we have played all season. H Villa were worse |
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 30, 2016 16:56:00 GMT
How much better did we look today with a stand in CB, ok he was at fault for the pen but overall ten times better than Wolfy, Hughes must bring in a decent CB and fingers crossed Ryan can recover fully, Wolfy Wilson and Muniesa to go in the summer. 100 times better bud. Geoff played well today. His athleticism is a huge plus but we moved the ball quicker. I was trying too be kind  , the old chestnut of playing the ball out from the back as the reason for signing Wolfy over Huth has been well and truly roasted today. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2016 16:58:27 GMT
100 times better bud. Geoff played well today. His athleticism is a huge plus but we moved the ball quicker. I was trying too be kind , the old chestnut of playing the ball out from the back as the reason for signing Wolfy over Huth has been well and truly roasted today. I thought I was being kind by just saying 100 ties better bud  100% put to bed today. I've never been a fan but was happy to be proven wrong. But I'm hoping I don't see him in a stoke shirt again |
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Post by RAF on Apr 30, 2016 16:58:53 GMT
Not just an average side. The worst team we have played all season. H Villa were worse Not for me they weren't. H |
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Post by lordb on Apr 30, 2016 17:00:44 GMT
Not for me they weren't. H Give over,they were the worst side we have played since promotion. Sunderland were poor today. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 30, 2016 17:01:16 GMT
And that's why we can't rely on Cameron at centre half.
He did play really well and then he did that. We have too many who do the same thing.
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 30, 2016 17:01:18 GMT
Sunderland were very poor, typical Allardyce team. Cynical hoof merchants.
Stoke were marginally better. I thought we were poor.
We are DESPERATE for a centre-forward.
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 30, 2016 17:03:00 GMT
I was trying too be kind , the old chestnut of playing the ball out from the back as the reason for signing Wolfy over Huth has been well and truly roasted today. I thought I was being kind by just saying 100 ties better bud 100% put to bed today. I've never been a fan but was happy to be proven wrong. But I'm hoping I don't see him in a stoke shirt again Fingers crossed he will be sold, by the praise he receives from some on here he will be snapped up by a top flight club, ball playing CB's do not grow on trees however we have on that is as wooden as one. |
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 30, 2016 17:04:32 GMT
Sunderland were very poor, typical Allardyce team. Cynical hoof merchants. Stoke were marginally better. I thought we were poor. We are DESPERATE for a centre-forward. We have at least four including one bought in last summer are you saying none of them are good enough ? |
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 30, 2016 17:05:48 GMT
Sunderland were very poor, typical Allardyce team. Cynical hoof merchants. Stoke were marginally better. I thought we were poor. We are DESPERATE for a centre-forward. We have at least four including one bought in last summer are you saying none of them are good enough ? No, none of them good enough for a European push. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2016 17:06:40 GMT
Poor side or not they signed the Striker I wanted for us...you remember the one you lot thought was finished and too old....that's 14 ..yes 14 goals he's scored for them now just about double anything our lot have managed.
Quality is always better than youth and Defoe is quality. Just imagine where his 14 goals would have put us this season and lol lol lol big Sam didn't want to play him at first.
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Post by nott1 on Apr 30, 2016 17:07:50 GMT
I thought I was being kind by just saying 100 ties better bud 100% put to bed today. I've never been a fan but was happy to be proven wrong. But I'm hoping I don't see him in a stoke shirt again Fingers crossed he will be sold, by the praise he receives from some on here he will be snapped up by a top flight club, ball playing CB's do not grow on trees however we have on that is as wooden as one. It looks like Hughes has realised, at last, that he is not the answer, and I hope some German club will feel sorry for him and give us a few grand to put towards a proper defender in the Huth tradition (but younger). |
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 30, 2016 17:08:55 GMT
We have at least four including one bought in last summer are you saying none of them are good enough ? No, none of them good enough for a European push. You are funny European push  , have you seen our defence lately ! better today though has to be said. |
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 30, 2016 17:10:21 GMT
Fingers crossed he will be sold, by the praise he receives from some on here he will be snapped up by a top flight club, ball playing CB's do not grow on trees however we have on that is as wooden as one. It looks like Hughes has realised, at last, that he is not the answer, and I hope some German club will feel sorry for him and give us a few grand to put towards a proper defender in the Huth tradition (but younger). Like a proper defender you mean |
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Post by numpty40 on Apr 30, 2016 17:10:26 GMT
Up until the penalty Cameron was my MOM, however to concede a penalty in that way was completely brainless.
last minute of the game and the striker had his back to goal and going nowhere before Cameron clatters through the back of him.
Totally and utterly brain dead from Geoff.
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 30, 2016 17:10:59 GMT
No, none of them good enough for a European push. You are funny European push , have you seen our defence lately ! better today though has to be said. We've got some good footballers. The right acquisitions and luck with injuries could see us push on again NEXT season. Stoke fans wallow in negativity - I don't get it. |
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, the old chestnut of playing the ball out from the back as the reason for signing Wolfy over Huth has been well and truly roasted today.
, have you seen our defence lately ! better today though has to be said.
