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Post by heworksardtho on Apr 28, 2016 6:52:23 GMT
Hughes is no different to anyone else , if the money is better and if he thinks Everton can go further than us then he will take the job , but in Coates he knows he has the best chairman in the league who is already a billionaire so why can't we be the next Leicester , he got burnt at QPR so my opinion is he will be thinkin better the devil you know and will see out his contract at Stoke unless United come calling
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Post by chiefdelilah on Apr 28, 2016 6:55:10 GMT
Who would you go for? Martinez won something once... Eddie Howe. Knows a thing or two about forward momentum at least. All Moyes has of note on his CV is taking over a sleeping giant for 8 seasons and keeping them firmly asleep. If by keeping them firmly asleep you mean taking a team primed for relegation and riven with financial problems and getting them to regularly qualify for Europe. And taking a team with Lee Carsley, Kevin Kilbane and Marcus Bent in it into the Champions League.
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Post by chuffedstokie on Apr 28, 2016 6:55:17 GMT
I'll tell you why it won't happen: Coated won't let it Hughes has always said how grateful he is for the coates family for giving him the chance back in the game after qpr Why would he leave to go to a club who's new investor is one of the least wealthy in the league Will that do?
It'll do for me. Could do without all the speculation though with the last three games looming. Does he do flat denials to quash everything or let it rumble on post season.?
PS; See Arnie is doing his 'nothing to with me guv, speak to the brother' routine again. I know it's not MH related but spotted in the Ad loaded sentinel earlier.
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Post by wuzza on Apr 28, 2016 6:59:00 GMT
If Hughes were to consider this opportunity a 'step forward' then it would be for the best if he went because it would suggest his judgement has become considerably flawed - he and his team will never have it so good as they have here. The only possible reason for him to go is if he believes managers have a 'shelf-life' at any club - I doubt he does.
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Post by potterblade on Apr 28, 2016 7:00:34 GMT
Eddie Howe. Knows a thing or two about forward momentum at least. All Moyes has of note on his CV is taking over a sleeping giant for 8 seasons and keeping them firmly asleep. If by keeping them firmly asleep you mean taking a team primed for relegation and riven with financial problems and getting them to regularly qualify for Europe. And taking a team with Lee Carsley, Kevin Kilbane and Marcus Bent in it into the Champions League. Technically they didn't qualify for the champions league they went out in qualifying to Villareal. He won nothing and Europa qualification is a basic requirement at Everton, thats why Martinez is getting fucked off. I think Moyes underachieved there.
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Post by jeycov on Apr 28, 2016 7:02:16 GMT
Hughes is no different to anyone else , if the money is better and if he thinks Everton can go further than us then he will take the job , but in Coates he knows he has the best chairman in the league who is already a billionaire so why can't we be the next Leicester , he got burnt at QPR so my opinion is he will be thinkin better the devil you know and will see out his contract at Stoke unless United come calling Get the "Hughes out" van back on the road and change the sign to "Hughes in" Let's show how much we value the management even in a run of poor form
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Post by chiefdelilah on Apr 28, 2016 7:14:55 GMT
If by keeping them firmly asleep you mean taking a team primed for relegation and riven with financial problems and getting them to regularly qualify for Europe. And taking a team with Lee Carsley, Kevin Kilbane and Marcus Bent in it into the Champions League. Technically they didn't qualify for the champions league they went out in qualifying to Villareal. He won nothing and Europa qualification is a basic requirement at Everton, thats why Martinez is getting fucked off. I think Moyes underachieved there. He massively overachieved given expectations when he took over. Europa is only an expectation because Moyes established it as one. Have a gander in the decade before he went there and see how often they qualified. Martinez is being fucked off because he's taken them backwards. They were shafted by Collina in that Villarral game and finishing fourth is still a massive achievement for a club like that. They got fed up of him there in the end as he went stale but overall he did a way better job than you're suggesting.
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Post by potterblade on Apr 28, 2016 7:19:44 GMT
Technically they didn't qualify for the champions league they went out in qualifying to Villareal. He won nothing and Europa qualification is a basic requirement at Everton, thats why Martinez is getting fucked off. I think Moyes underachieved there. He massively overachieved given expectations when he took over. Europa is only an expectation because Moyes established it as one. Have a gander in the decade before he went there and see how often they qualified. Martinez is being fucked off because he's taken them backwards. They were shafted by Collina in that Villarral game and finishing fourth is still a massive achievement for a club like that. They got fed up of him there in the end as he went stale but overall he did a way better job than you're suggesting. They qualified 3 times for Europa in 11 seasons. One of them was because of that failure to qualify for Champs League. Moyes traded on that fourth place finish for the next decade of his career and has achieved very little.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Apr 28, 2016 7:22:41 GMT
He massively overachieved given expectations when he took over. Europa is only an expectation because Moyes established it as one. Have a gander in the decade before he went there and see how often they qualified. Martinez is being fucked off because he's taken them backwards. They were shafted by Collina in that Villarral game and finishing fourth is still a massive achievement for a club like that. They got fed up of him there in the end as he went stale but overall he did a way better job than you're suggesting. They qualified 3 times for Europa in 11 seasons. One of them was because of that failure to qualify for Champs League. Moyes traded on that fourth place finish for the next decade of his career and has achieved very little. Again, look where they were hen he took over and look at where they went under him. Are you telling me that's not achievement? If it isn't then pretty much no Stoke manager has ever achieved anything including the current one.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2016 7:29:40 GMT
I started this thread.....cant believe its got 3 pages....rediculous!!!!!
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Post by potterblade on Apr 28, 2016 7:33:26 GMT
They qualified 3 times for Europa in 11 seasons. One of them was because of that failure to qualify for Champs League. Moyes traded on that fourth place finish for the next decade of his career and has achieved very little. Again, look where they were hen he took over and look at where they went under him. Are you telling me that's not achievement? If it isn't then pretty much no Stoke manager has ever achieved anything including the current one. All I'm saying is Moyes is not a very inspired choice and in my opinion would be a backward step.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Apr 28, 2016 7:36:21 GMT
Again, look where they were hen he took over and look at where they went under him. Are you telling me that's not achievement? If it isn't then pretty much no Stoke manager has ever achieved anything including the current one. All I'm saying is Moyes is not a very inspired choice and in my opinion would be a backward step. There's a reasonably strong argument it'd be a forward one, in that he's a manager who, while more cautious than Hughes, might marry the best of both worlds of the last two managers. His record is better than either. All Eddie Howe is at the moment is potential. Deserves a(nother) crack at a bigger job, but still a big gamble. Hughes has got bags of credit in the bank to turn it round though.
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Post by StokieNath on Apr 28, 2016 7:51:15 GMT
Howe deserves a move to a 'bigger club'. I'd fancy him to takeover woy at some point...
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Apr 28, 2016 7:56:18 GMT
Mirror going big on this today apparently , he has done well for us and might fancy the challenge but not an easy job with a bit of an unknown new owner and Liverpool looking like they are on the up again .
I would hope he would stay here but if not would thank him and wish him well for his work . Stoke is a great club for a Manager and I'm sure a Moyes level manager would love a job like ours so I'm sure we would have plenty to choose from if he did leave
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 28, 2016 7:56:37 GMT
Stoke City is now a very attractive job. We'd get the pick of some good managers.
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Post by StokieNath on Apr 28, 2016 8:00:39 GMT
What are the odds for Leslie leaving for Everton?
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Post by chuffedstokie on Apr 28, 2016 8:04:16 GMT
If there were to be a change and it just so happens the players think that the incoming is a half arsed tosser who they all dislike within a couple of weeks, any past credibility or success will count for nothing. Personal experience leads me to this conclusion in a previous job. The man brought in to the company had a nice CV but couldn't manage a kids tea party and presumed, (wrongly) that he was god. Roundly disliked and didn't last 3 months. The applause on him walking was tangible. Be careful what you wish for.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2016 8:04:36 GMT
I don't really want to see Hughes leave, but it would be exciting to see who we'd bring in.
As many people have said Stoke are a very attractive job offer to many managers.
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Post by Bera’s Beano on Apr 28, 2016 8:14:34 GMT
This is gathering far more momentum that I care for, it's making me a little uncomfortable as this may affect the results of my prediction on the other thread.
(Although the players could do with being unsettled to wake them up from their early Summer hibernation they have slipped into a little bit)
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Post by dadofsam on Apr 28, 2016 8:24:58 GMT
Might add a few inches to the transfer dick come the summer?
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Post by StokieNath on Apr 28, 2016 8:28:51 GMT
Mark Hughes will not be leaving
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Post by Davef on Apr 28, 2016 8:29:45 GMT
This started with a speculative comment from Richard Keys (the same Richard Keys who posted a twelve month old picture of Jose Mourinho in a Manchester hotel on Twitter to back up his claim that he was joining Man United last Christmas), a story which was then linked on the busiest Stoke City forum and then ends up in the Daily Mirror less than 24 hours later. I'm calling emphatic bollocks on this one.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Apr 28, 2016 8:35:18 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2016 8:39:20 GMT
Howe deserves a move to a 'bigger club'. I'd fancy him to takeover woy at some point... He went to Burnley, and failed.
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Post by stokey127 on Apr 28, 2016 8:46:45 GMT
Nah, why would Hughes be interested in making a step down to Everton? Big step down
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Post by stokey127 on Apr 28, 2016 8:47:44 GMT
Sparky ain't going anywhere. Atleast I hope he isn't. Out of interest if Sparky did go, would anyone take Brendan Rodgers? Yeah Port Vale please
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Post by liamo on Apr 28, 2016 8:49:33 GMT
Imagine if he left for Everton and signed Arnautovic, that's something i'd never come back from
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Post by toppercorner on Apr 28, 2016 8:50:48 GMT
When Hughes arrived he stated he knew he was in a last jamie saloon position with something to prove after the QPR situation (which I don't think was his fault)
I do think he will have learnt a lesson by jumping the gun and leaving Fulham to (not) take over at villa
He has signed some great players, has the boards unconditional support with a club that is being seen to live forward
Everton traditionally are a bigger club traditionally, but in the premier league with new wealth we are a big club ourselves and he can achieve just as much with us as he can Everton
I would be very very surprised if he even thought it to be an option for him now to swap clubs
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Post by dieguito88 on Apr 28, 2016 8:53:51 GMT
If we want an attractive effective good looking football, i will go all the way for Marcelo Bielsa.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Apr 28, 2016 8:54:00 GMT
When Hughes arrived he stated he knew he was in a last jamie saloon position with something to prove after the QPR situation (which I don't think was his fault) I do think he will have learnt a lesson by jumping the gun and leaving Fulham to (not) take over at villa He has signed some great players, has the boards unconditional support with a club that is being seen to live forward Everton traditionally are a bigger club traditionally, but in the premier league with new wealth we are a big club ourselves and he can achieve just as much with us as he can Everton I would be very very surprised if he even thought it to be an option for him now to swap clubs I like the sound of a last Jamie saloon, where poncey versions of the name go to drink and fight until they toughen up. M'am, I went in there a Jamie and came out a Jimbo...
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