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Post by timbo1988 on May 18, 2016 17:59:49 GMT
I'm not convinced he is worth a fee of over 8-10 million! Was good last season but been hopeless this season!
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Post by foxysgloves on May 18, 2016 18:07:04 GMT
[quote author=" timbo1988" source="/post/5130187/ thread" timestamp="1463594389"]I'm not convinced he is worth a fee of over 8-10 million! Was good last season but been hopeless this season![/quote] I reckon if you get his head right he could be worth 40 million. A chance worth taking IMO.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 18, 2016 18:11:33 GMT
I'm not convinced he is worth a fee of over 8-10 million! Was good last season but been hopeless this season! He didn't play for 6 months and was treated shockingly and then played when TP realised he needed him and his attributes to get the results. He's an excellent young talent and has the skill set we need.
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Post by sportsman on May 18, 2016 18:34:02 GMT
I'm not convinced he is worth a fee of over 8-10 million! Was good last season but been hopeless this season! Vardy has been useless for the last 13 years. This year everything he's hit has gone in.
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Post by unknown182 on May 18, 2016 18:35:42 GMT
Lewandowski would struggle to hit double figures in that West brom side. I'd be chuffed if we signed him personally.
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Post by GeneralFaye on May 18, 2016 18:46:01 GMT
Lewandowski would struggle to hit double figures in that West brom side. I'd be chuffed if we signed him personally. Rondon has hasn't he?.. just guessing at that.
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Post by gingerninja on May 18, 2016 19:05:56 GMT
His signing would make no sense as far as I can see. We have Bojan who plays the false 9 and plenty in the number 10 role. Would be strange if a bigger and quick striker wasn't on the hit list?. Dave Views we need info!!
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Post by unknown182 on May 18, 2016 19:18:26 GMT
Lewandowski would struggle to hit double figures in that West brom side. I'd be chuffed if we signed him personally. Rondon has hasn't he?.. just guessing at that. 9 league goals
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Post by timbo1988 on May 18, 2016 19:21:52 GMT
I'm not convinced he is worth a fee of over 8-10 million! Was good last season but been hopeless this season! He didn't play for 6 months and was treated shockingly and then played when TP realised he needed him and his attributes to get the results. He's an excellent young talent and has the skill set we need. Where would he play for us? Can't see him as a loan striker, not tall enough or strong enough! For the money it would take I think there are better options who would suit us better! Diouf is a better option given the price it would take to get Berahino here! His attitude is also very questionable!
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Post by GeneralFaye on May 18, 2016 19:22:13 GMT
Rondon has hasn't he?.. just guessing at that. 9 league goals Including cup competitions then?..
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 18, 2016 19:22:47 GMT
Lewandowski would struggle to hit double figures in that West brom side. I'd be chuffed if we signed him personally. Rondon has hasn't he?.. just guessing at that. I think he'd score quite a few in a better set up.
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Post by Paul Spencer on May 18, 2016 19:39:06 GMT
Do you have any concerns about him leading the line and Bojan playing as a number 10 with regard to our ability to win the ball in the air? Even something as simple as Butland clearing it long, who is going to challenge for the ball? Or are we going for 100% carpet football? You've got to play the correct long ball in the situation. Look at Sunderland with Defoe. Balls into the channel, pressure and play from there. It's how we should use Diouf too but yeah! Yeah but Sunderland still stick it in the air because they've got players in midfield who can compete for it there. We've got, erm ... no one. Take away one of either Joselu, Crouch, Diouf or Walters and nobody in our midfield would be interested. Look how much Zonz used to win in the air, we don't have that now. I do like Berahino but stick him leading the line of our current XI and we would instantly have to give up all aerial territory to the opposition.
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Post by trickydicky73 on May 18, 2016 19:47:41 GMT
You've got to play the correct long ball in the situation. Look at Sunderland with Defoe. Balls into the channel, pressure and play from there. It's how we should use Diouf too but yeah! Yeah but Sunderland still stick it in the air because they've got players in midfield who can compete for it there. We've got, erm ... no one. Take away one of either Joselu, Crouch, Diouf or Walters and nobody in our midfield would be interested. Look how much Zonz used to win in the air, we don't have that now. I do like Berahino but stick him leading the line of our current XI and we would instantly have to give up all aerial territory to the opposition. Go to 2 up front, then. 4-2-3-1 is dead, anyway!
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Post by Paul Spencer on May 18, 2016 19:50:53 GMT
Yeah but Sunderland still stick it in the air because they've got players in midfield who can compete for it there. We've got, erm ... no one. Take away one of either Joselu, Crouch, Diouf or Walters and nobody in our midfield would be interested. Look how much Zonz used to win in the air, we don't have that now. I do like Berahino but stick him leading the line of our current XI and we would instantly have to give up all aerial territory to the opposition. Go to 2 up front, then. 4-2-3-1 is dead, anyway! That would definitely work mate, however you instantly resign Arnie (if he stays) and Shaqiri to the bench.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 18, 2016 19:51:29 GMT
You've got to play the correct long ball in the situation. Look at Sunderland with Defoe. Balls into the channel, pressure and play from there. It's how we should use Diouf too but yeah! Yeah but Sunderland still stick it in the air because they've got players in midfield who can compete for it there. We've got, erm ... no one. Take away one of either Joselu, Crouch, Diouf or Walters and nobody in our midfield would be interested. Look how much Zonz used to win in the air, we don't have that now. I do like Berahino but stick him leading the line of our current XI and we would instantly have to give up all aerial territory to the opposition. Imbula? Arnie is ok at it too. I think we've got to play the ball quicker anyway and that has to start at the back. We've got to have confidence on the ball and that's one of the reasons I don't like Wolly at CB. He's too slow on it and the crap football stems from that. The spine needs an upgrade and with it I think we could easily play with someone like Berahino up front. But Hughes has to adapt, something I don't think he's done with the players we have.
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Post by Paul Spencer on May 18, 2016 19:55:59 GMT
Yeah but Sunderland still stick it in the air because they've got players in midfield who can compete for it there. We've got, erm ... no one. Take away one of either Joselu, Crouch, Diouf or Walters and nobody in our midfield would be interested. Look how much Zonz used to win in the air, we don't have that now. I do like Berahino but stick him leading the line of our current XI and we would instantly have to give up all aerial territory to the opposition. Imbula? Arnie is ok at it too. I think we've got to play the ball quicker anyway and that has to start at the back. We've got to have confidence on the ball and that's one of the reasons I don't like Wolly at CB. He's too slow on it and the crap football stems from that. The spine needs an upgrade and with it I think we could easily play with someone like Berahino up front. But Hughes has to adapt, something I don't think he's done with the players we have. Imbula doesn't though does he mate? And Arnie does if has to if it comes his way out on the left flank? I'm talking about somebody who you can regularly rely to challenge for the ball in the centre of the park. Upgrade of the spine? Who are you talking about Bojan or Imbula?
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 18, 2016 20:00:28 GMT
Imbula? Arnie is ok at it too. I think we've got to play the ball quicker anyway and that has to start at the back. We've got to have confidence on the ball and that's one of the reasons I don't like Wolly at CB. He's too slow on it and the crap football stems from that. The spine needs an upgrade and with it I think we could easily play with someone like Berahino up front. But Hughes has to adapt, something I don't think he's done with the players we have. Imbula doesn't though does he mate? And Arnie does if has to if it comes his way out on the left flank? I'm talking about somebody who you can regularly rely to challenge for the ball in the centre of the park. Upgrade of the spine? Who are you talking about Bojan or Imbula? I think Imbula has done ok in the air tbh. New CB, new DM and new ST. The first two have got to be more confident on the ball than the current two and the new striker had to make runs and create space for Bojan. Not that arsed about ability in the air tbh. It's why you keep Diouf. Excellent plan B and can fit plan A too. He won't though but hey I can dream.
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Post by Paul Spencer on May 18, 2016 20:10:39 GMT
Imbula doesn't though does he mate? And Arnie does if has to if it comes his way out on the left flank? I'm talking about somebody who you can regularly rely to challenge for the ball in the centre of the park. Upgrade of the spine? Who are you talking about Bojan or Imbula? I think Imbula has done ok in the air tbh. New CB, new DM and new ST. The first two have got to be more confident on the ball than the current two and the new striker had to make runs and create space for Bojan. Not that arsed about ability in the air tbh. It's why you keep Diouf. Excellent plan B and can fit plan A too. He won't though but hey I can dream. N'Zonzi winning a lot in the air this evening ... (Winkything). I think it's important but hey, happy to disagree fella.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 18, 2016 20:13:11 GMT
I think Imbula has done ok in the air tbh. New CB, new DM and new ST. The first two have got to be more confident on the ball than the current two and the new striker had to make runs and create space for Bojan. Not that arsed about ability in the air tbh. It's why you keep Diouf. Excellent plan B and can fit plan A too. He won't though but hey I can dream. N'Zonzi winning a lot in the air this evening ... (Winkything). I think it's important but hey, happy to disagree fella. I don't think it is if you do it right and that's not what we've done. We play it too slow and have no runners. The latter would change instantly with Berahino. Bojan would have more space, Imbula would and with that we negate the need to rely on winning headers.
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Post by Paul Spencer on May 18, 2016 20:15:37 GMT
N'Zonzi winning a lot in the air this evening ... (Winkything). I think it's important but hey, happy to disagree fella. I don't think it is if you do it right and that's not what we've done. We play it too slow and have no runners. The latter would change instantly with Berahino. Bojan would have more space, Imbula would and with that we negate the need to rely on winning headers. Not RELY on headers, just be able to at least compete for them mate. But hey, as I said ... happy to disagree
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 18, 2016 20:18:51 GMT
I don't think it is if you do it right and that's not what we've done. We play it too slow and have no runners. The latter would change instantly with Berahino. Bojan would have more space, Imbula would and with that we negate the need to rely on winning headers. Not RELY on headers, just be able to at least compete for them mate. But hey, as I said ... happy to disagree Which I think is there. Berahino isn't a shrinking violet either and will put himself about.
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Post by stokiejoe on May 18, 2016 20:22:09 GMT
spend the money on Niang and give Arnie a go In the middle
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Post by owdestokie on May 18, 2016 21:58:13 GMT
"Toxic". Who are you referring to? Toxic Hughsey, the long ball king of course! I thought you met "play it through the lines Tony". That's what I couldn't understand. Thanks for the clarity
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Post by owdestokie on May 18, 2016 22:02:53 GMT
"Toxic". Who are you referring to? Toxic Tony¿ Sorry never heard of him. Perhaps I've missed something
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Post by Kjones9 on May 19, 2016 7:34:13 GMT
We should offer 15M plus Walters and Wilson for Berahino and Leko. Toxic will think all of his birthday's have come at once. See what you've done!!!
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Post by Rick Grimes on May 19, 2016 7:38:40 GMT
You've got to play the correct long ball in the situation. Look at Sunderland with Defoe. Balls into the channel, pressure and play from there. It's how we should use Diouf too but yeah! Yeah but Sunderland still stick it in the air because they've got players in midfield who can compete for it there. We've got, erm ... no one. Take away one of either Joselu, Crouch, Diouf or Walters and nobody in our midfield would be interested. Look how much Zonz used to win in the air, we don't have that now. I do like Berahino but stick him leading the line of our current XI and we would instantly have to give up all aerial territory to the opposition. I'm with you on this one Paul, I'd like to see Berahino here but it would be very naive of us to play him as the main man on his own and give up aerial territory.
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Post by loosestools on May 19, 2016 7:51:29 GMT
Trouble is if he came and didn't perform straight away he would be anihilated on this board. He's got a poor attitude in the first place and if the fans get on his back he's a dead man walking. On the other hand he might make an immediate impact and we will love him. I also cannot make up my mind as to stay in Europe or get out. Help.
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Post by skip on May 19, 2016 8:17:10 GMT
He could be our Jamie Vardy! Coates family, open your purses and flap open your wallets!
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2016 9:39:16 GMT
We should offer 15M plus Walters and Wilson for Berahino and Leko. Toxic will think all of his birthday's have come at once. See what you've done!!! No?
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Post by jimmygscfc on May 19, 2016 10:02:41 GMT
Yeah but Sunderland still stick it in the air because they've got players in midfield who can compete for it there. We've got, erm ... no one. Take away one of either Joselu, Crouch, Diouf or Walters and nobody in our midfield would be interested. Look how much Zonz used to win in the air, we don't have that now. I do like Berahino but stick him leading the line of our current XI and we would instantly have to give up all aerial territory to the opposition. I'm with you on this one Paul, I'd like to see Berahino here but it would be very naive of us to play him as the main man on his own and give up aerial territory. Looking at Leicester, where's the aerial presence in their team (ignoring Huth and Morgan)? Kante is small, Drinkwater of average height and the front four certainly not renowned for winning the ball in the air. So, it can be done with the right players. I agree with Mr Spencer though and would prefer a central striker who can deliver in the air and Diouf at least offers that.
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