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Post by chiefdelilah on Mar 25, 2016 20:17:19 GMT
Considering we are more likely to beat Holland at Wembley than Germany in Germany is rather start jack Tuesday. If I was jack I'd rather play the Wembley game If you're Jack you want to test yourself against the best surely?
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Post by salopstick on Mar 25, 2016 20:18:39 GMT
Considering we are more likely to beat Holland at Wembley than Germany in Germany is rather start jack Tuesday. If I was jack I'd rather play the Wembley game If you're Jack you want to test yourself against the best surely? I'd also remember that woy likes to hang people out to dry v the best
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Post by WhyDelilah on Mar 25, 2016 20:26:24 GMT
Jack will want to play both.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Mar 25, 2016 20:30:56 GMT
If you're Jack you want to test yourself against the best surely? I'd also remember that woy likes to hang people out to dry v the best That's my point though. He gets crucified if he doesn't pick him and if he does he's hanging him out to dry. Jack, you'd hope, would back himself to deliver when the pressure's on?
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Post by salopstick on Mar 25, 2016 20:35:50 GMT
I'd also remember that woy likes to hang people out to dry v the best That's my point though. He gets crucified if he doesn't pick him and if he does he's hanging him out to dry. Jack, you'd hope, would back himself to deliver when the pressure's on? Fair point. But as he's only getting one game I would rather play Wembley
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2016 20:47:05 GMT
Hopefully he plays tomorrow. Playing against the world champions is a must for any player. If he plays I think it's a huge vote of confidence for the lad
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2016 21:15:46 GMT
Hopefully he plays tomorrow. Playing against the world champions is a must for any player. If he plays I think it's a huge vote of confidence for the lad Spot on. If Jack has anything about him (and he does) he will be gagging to play tomorrow and test himself against the world champions. In my opinion, and without my Stoke tinted glasses on, he simply has to be Hart's No.2 due to the season he has had, so by that rationale he has to play tomorrow ahead of a keeper who hasn't hardly played this season.
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Post by stayingupfor GermanStokie on Mar 25, 2016 21:38:07 GMT
Jack will want to play both. And that is what will make Hodgson a hypocrite. Of course it is good sense to let both Keepers have a run out, the issue is that Hodgson made a rod for his own back when he said that Hart had to play the last load of games because he didn't want to upset Hart as he wanted to play..... even though it made sense to give Butland a run out! It is decisions like this that keeps catching Hodgson out..... the two faced idiot... Anyway guys, here's to a good game tomorrow. It'll be closer than you think and you may pull off a win against us...
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Post by chiefdelilah on Mar 25, 2016 21:46:06 GMT
Jack will want to play both. And that is what will make Hodgson a hypocrite. Of course it is good sense to let both Keepers have a run out, the issue is that Hodgson made a rod for his own back when he said that Hart had to play the last load of games because he didn't want to upset Hart as he wanted to play..... even though it made sense to give Butland a run out! It is decisions like this that keeps catching Hodgson out..... the two faced idiot... Anyway guys, here's to a good game tomorrow. It'll be closer than you think and you may pull off a win against us... I don't see how it's caught him out? Hart's injured?
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Post by stayingupfor GermanStokie on Mar 25, 2016 21:55:21 GMT
And that is what will make Hodgson a hypocrite. Of course it is good sense to let both Keepers have a run out, the issue is that Hodgson made a rod for his own back when he said that Hart had to play the last load of games because he didn't want to upset Hart as he wanted to play..... even though it made sense to give Butland a run out! It is decisions like this that keeps catching Hodgson out..... the two faced idiot... Anyway guys, here's to a good game tomorrow. It'll be closer than you think and you may pull off a win against us... I don't see how it's caught him out? Hart's injured? I meant in the fact that Hodgson refused to allow Butland at least one run out last time for fear of upsetting Hart because he wanted to play. Now the majority of people see Butland as the clear number two and for consistency should be playing both games because Butland will want to play both... The fact that he isn't (and i believe that is the correct decision) amongst other conflicting decisions (selecting players despite being in poor form, deselecting players because of 1 bad game yet keep other players who do the same because he says that "you can't judge a player on one bad performance") just open him up for criticism.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Mar 25, 2016 21:58:26 GMT
I don't see how it's caught him out? Hart's injured? I meant in the fact that Hodgson refused to allow Butland at least one run out last time for fear of upsetting Hart because he wanted to play. Now the majority of people see Butland as the clear number two and for consistency should be playing both games because Butland will want to play both... The fact that he isn't (and i believe that is the correct decision) amongst other conflicting decisions (selecting players despite being in poor form, deselecting players because of 1 bad game yet keep other players who do the same because he says that "you can't judge a player on one bad performance") just open him up for criticism. With the keepers I think the rules have always been different for the number 1 and the chasing pack. Hodgson is.a bugger for that but so are most England managers. The difference is that most of the time previously it didn't affect us as we didn't have anyone in contention for the squad.
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Post by stayingupfor GermanStokie on Mar 25, 2016 22:04:35 GMT
I meant in the fact that Hodgson refused to allow Butland at least one run out last time for fear of upsetting Hart because he wanted to play. Now the majority of people see Butland as the clear number two and for consistency should be playing both games because Butland will want to play both... The fact that he isn't (and i believe that is the correct decision) amongst other conflicting decisions (selecting players despite being in poor form, deselecting players because of 1 bad game yet keep other players who do the same because he says that "you can't judge a player on one bad performance") just open him up for criticism. With the keepers I think the rules have always been different for the number 1 and the chasing pack. Hodgson is.a bugger for that but so are most England managers. The difference is that most of the time previously it didn't affect us as we didn't have anyone in contention for the squad. Fair does..... Here's to a good game
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Post by spitthedog on Mar 25, 2016 22:15:41 GMT
Jack will want to play both. And that is what will make Hodgson a hypocrite. Of course it is good sense to let both Keepers have a run out, the issue is that Hodgson made a rod for his own back when he said that Hart had to play the last load of games because he didn't want to upset Hart as he wanted to play..... even though it made sense to give Butland a run out! It is decisions like this that keeps catching Hodgson out..... the two faced idiot... Anyway guys, here's to a good game tomorrow. It'll be closer than you think and you may pull off a win against us... The criticisms of Hodgson on here just get dafter and more desperate. Yes, we know you don't like him!
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Post by breakonthrough on Mar 25, 2016 22:18:24 GMT
He's just an odd person to have as England manager. When Kevin keegan was England boss you could understand the players wanting to listen to a bloke who was European player of the year twice and a legendary player for Liverpool hamburg and England. Even Glenn hoddle was highly effective for spurs Monaco and England. But Roy played for maidstone united and gravesend and I am not sure how this gives him the knowledge of knowing what it's like to play against Spain Germany Italy etc Great players often don't make great managers. Only two of the last six World Cup winning coaches were capped as players. The 1994 final was contested by two coaches who never played professionally. As average as Hodgson has been, Keegan was a much worse England manager IMO. Alex Ferguson had a massive footballing career and José too..
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Post by stayingupfor GermanStokie on Mar 25, 2016 22:20:05 GMT
And that is what will make Hodgson a hypocrite. Of course it is good sense to let both Keepers have a run out, the issue is that Hodgson made a rod for his own back when he said that Hart had to play the last load of games because he didn't want to upset Hart as he wanted to play..... even though it made sense to give Butland a run out! It is decisions like this that keeps catching Hodgson out..... the two faced idiot... Anyway guys, here's to a good game tomorrow. It'll be closer than you think and you may pull off a win against us... The criticisms of Hodgson on here just get dafter and more desperate. Yes, we know you don't like him! And why is it daft or desperate?I was was suggesting the reason why he may attract such criticism? I'm not overly enamoured with him, but to fair only from a stoke point of view. It is only because i can see the difference between how he develops the national team and how Loew does it....
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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 25, 2016 22:33:20 GMT
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Post by Kjones9 on Mar 25, 2016 22:35:04 GMT
Wow.
What a distinctly average England team.
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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 25, 2016 22:38:18 GMT
It all starts to go a bit shit when you get to the Henderson-Lallana axis. Just so unexciting.
Never reallyunderstood what those pair were for - particularly bloody Lallana.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Mar 25, 2016 22:38:45 GMT
It's not far off the best team we could put out but how Henderson gets a game is beyond me. What does he do?
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Post by chiefdelilah on Mar 25, 2016 22:39:39 GMT
It all starts to go a bit shit when you get to the Henderson-Lallana axis. Just so unexciting. Never reallyunderstood what those pair were for - particularly bloody Lallana. Lallana's been playing well lately at least Grapey and there really aren't many wide options.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2016 22:44:34 GMT
Adam Lallana is shit. I remember some idiots on here,one was our resident Gooner, telling me that Lallana was a different class to Arnie
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Post by WhyDelilah on Mar 25, 2016 23:08:58 GMT
Lallana?
Jesus wept.
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Post by spitthedog on Mar 25, 2016 23:12:20 GMT
So who do you suggest....and please don't say Noble!
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Post by samba :) on Mar 25, 2016 23:14:37 GMT
I wonder if Roy will grow a set and drop Rooney for the Euros? Don't be daft
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Post by WhyDelilah on Mar 25, 2016 23:16:45 GMT
So who do you suggest....and please don't say Noble! With the squad we've picked I'd have stuck Walcott out wide.
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Post by samba :) on Mar 25, 2016 23:18:25 GMT
So who do you suggest....and please don't say Noble! what formation do you think we're playing???
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Post by lordb on Mar 25, 2016 23:27:14 GMT
So who do you suggest....and please don't say Noble! Why not? He,unlike those two,has had an outstanding season. Presumably Vardy and Drinkwater will play v Holland
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Post by chiefdelilah on Mar 26, 2016 2:08:03 GMT
So who do you suggest....and please don't say Noble! With the squad we've picked I'd have stuck Walcott out wide. Lallana's in form and Walcott isn't.
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Post by werrington on Mar 26, 2016 7:03:12 GMT
So who do you suggest....and please don't say Noble! With the squad we've picked I'd have stuck Walcott out wide. He's having a nightmare season and is the Arsenal fans whipping boy If you think Lallana has been shit I'm not sure how you come to Walcott
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2016 7:05:21 GMT
Wow. What a distinctly average England team. That midfield...and defence...
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