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Post by chopperscfc on Mar 12, 2016 19:29:19 GMT
I can not for the life of me see how Jos is not picked over Diouf every week.
He was coming into some great form when he was starting a few weeks back.
Given the chance, he'll work wonders for this club. I can't see what else he has to do to start, he's our best striker IMO
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Post by TinkerT on Mar 12, 2016 19:30:22 GMT
Take it you didn't go or watch the match last week then. Diouf deserved too start today.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Mar 12, 2016 19:31:33 GMT
We're not creating chances at home regardless of who's up front.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2016 19:34:07 GMT
We're not creating chances at home regardless of who's up front. Diouf has a chance second half. I'm under no illusions Joselu strikes it first time and scores. Diouf takes a touch and misses
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Post by Olgrligm on Mar 12, 2016 19:35:38 GMT
This argument over strikers drives me up the wall. How is it the striker's fault that at home we allow the opposition to dictate where we will play the game, and gleefully tap the ball about on the halfway line. How often did we craft any chances? Our goal came from a rare moment of us progressing forwards and moving the ball into the wide areas. Had we done that more often, you may have seen more from the forwards. Suarez wouldn't have scored today.
Also, I just don't think Joselu is good enough.
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Post by nutterpotter on Mar 12, 2016 19:35:57 GMT
We're not creating chances at home regardless of who's up front. Diouf has a chance second half. I'm under no illusions Joselu strikes it first time and scores. Diouf takes a touch and misses Joselu wouldn't be in that position in the first place.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Mar 12, 2016 19:36:26 GMT
We're not creating chances at home regardless of who's up front. Diouf has a chance second half. I'm under no illusions Joselu strikes it first time and scores. Diouf takes a touch and misses I like Diouf and Joselu but both have missed decent chances this year. No striker scores all their chances. The answer isn't score more of the minute number of chances you have, it's create more, then the goals will come.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2016 19:38:31 GMT
We're not creating anywhere near enough chances and with Arnautovic, Afellay, Bojan, Shaqiri and now Imbula in the side it's hard to work out why.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2016 19:39:42 GMT
Diouf has a chance second half. I'm under no illusions Joselu strikes it first time and scores. Diouf takes a touch and misses Joselu wouldn't be in that position in the first place. Why? What makes Diouf so special....he was just in the box....nothing more, nothing less.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2016 19:42:26 GMT
Another sitter missed by diouf yet again. No fount someone will be on trying to defend him
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Post by nutterpotter on Mar 12, 2016 19:46:11 GMT
Joselu wouldn't be in that position in the first place. Why? What makes Diouf so special....he was just in the box....nothing more, nothing less. I really like Joselu. Technically excellent. Decent enough in the air. But the one thing about him which annoys me is that he doesn't get himself into goalscoring positions enough. He's always drifting out to either wing or coming deeper to get the ball. If he can just get in the box more often, I think he should be our main man up top.
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Post by StokieAsh13 on Mar 12, 2016 19:47:02 GMT
We're not creating anywhere near enough chances and with Arnautovic, Afellay, Bojan, Shaqiri and now Imbula in the side it's hard to work out why. All about the build up for me, it's far too pedestrian at times, whilst I agree that we need to be in control in certain periods of the game it's all becoming far too predictable at the minute. Look at Pieters/Arnautovic for example, Pieters used to spot the early runs from Arnie and give it him early which most of the time left him on a 1v1 situation and 9/10 times he beats that man and puts a decent cross in. That's just not happening anymore it's all one dimensional.
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Post by march4 on Mar 12, 2016 19:49:00 GMT
Joselu ??
How much did he cost???
If someone offers us anything for him in the summer I would snap their hands off. Sadly no one will be interested.
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Post by MuddyWoody on Mar 12, 2016 19:49:36 GMT
We're not creating chances at home regardless of who's up front. Diouf has a chance second half. I'm under no illusions Joselu strikes it first time and scores. Diouf takes a touch and misses Totally agree with this. In fact I said exactly that to a mate not an hour ago.
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Post by SamB_SCFC on Mar 12, 2016 19:50:26 GMT
None of our strikers are good enough and that along with getting more defensive depth and quality have to be the main priorities in the summer.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2016 19:51:03 GMT
5 times better pmsl.
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Post by greystokie on Mar 12, 2016 19:53:10 GMT
We do need a more clinical striker but its not going to be anything like the answer unless we can find ways of giving him chances to bury
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Post by premiershipteamfor10years on Mar 12, 2016 19:53:12 GMT
It is the style of our play which is preventing us from creating the chances that our strikers need. We also don't play out and out wingers in reality and our build up play is way too slow and predictable. The management team needs a rethink with our tactics and get the players to make more runs off the ball to break teams down added to quick incisive passes in the final third of the pitch. More long balls early in the game to push teams back and create the space in midfield should also be looked at. Plus a lot more work on crossing and set pieces.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2016 19:56:48 GMT
Diouf has to try and get the ball out of his feet before striking it, should have done better but it wasn't an absolute sitter. 2nd game back in his natural position and should start at Watford for me.....
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Post by chopperscfc on Mar 12, 2016 19:58:51 GMT
Take it you didn't go or watch the match last week then. Diouf deserved too start today. See the problem we have is actually putting graft in and finishing chances, Diouf doesn't finish chances but grafts, if he did that he'd have 20 a season. Joselu is the better finisher but doesn't graft the way Diouf does.
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Post by chopperscfc on Mar 12, 2016 20:00:26 GMT
My opinion like I said, what's yours?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2016 20:00:32 GMT
We've enough players who fanny around with the ball without playing another one as well. For me in the Summer we must get a fast direct winger and a mobile centre forward who knows where the net is.
I'm bloody sick of having all the possession and creating bugger all. It's boring.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Mar 12, 2016 20:01:14 GMT
Take it you didn't go or watch the match last week then. Diouf deserved too start today. See the problem we have is actually putting graft in and finishing chances, Diouf doesn't finish chances but grafts, if he did that he'd have 20 a season. Joselu is the better finisher but doesn't graft the way Diouf does. Sorry but that isn't the problem.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2016 20:03:20 GMT
I can not for the life of me see how Jos is not picked over Diouf every week. He is five times the player Diouf is and was coming into some great form when he was starting a few weeks back. Given the chance, he'll work wonders for this club. I can't see what else he has to do to start, he's our best striker IMO When you lose the players on the bench are always better than the reality. I like the look of Joselu and would have liked to have seen him get more game time but not sure what you're basing him being 5 times better than Diouf on?
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Post by chopperscfc on Mar 12, 2016 20:03:33 GMT
See the problem we have is actually putting graft in and finishing chances, Diouf doesn't finish chances but grafts, if he did that he'd have 20 a season. Joselu is the better finisher but doesn't graft the way Diouf does. Sorry but that isn't the problem. Lukaku tonight showed the difference between a 30m striker and the strikers we settle for 10m or less. Dealing with what we have, I'd pick Joselu o we Diouf. It just proves if you put money into a player re.imbula you get quality
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Post by chopperscfc on Mar 12, 2016 20:05:04 GMT
I can not for the life of me see how Jos is not picked over Diouf every week. He is five times the player Diouf is and was coming into some great form when he was starting a few weeks back. Given the chance, he'll work wonders for this club. I can't see what else he has to do to start, he's our best striker IMO When you lose the players on the bench are always better than the reality. I like the look of Joselu and would have liked to have seen him get more game time but not sure what you're basing him being 5 times better than Diouf on? Maybe an over reaction fair enough but I still think he's the better option
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Post by cousindupree on Mar 12, 2016 20:05:21 GMT
Creating more chances will only mean Diouf will miss more. As for him getting into those positions I think any decent striker would do that it's the minimum that's expected. In a tight game when chances are few it was sods law it dropped to the least instinctive finisher in our lineup. Next season we need to find better otherwise I can't see us progressing
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Post by chiefdelilah on Mar 12, 2016 20:08:14 GMT
Sorry but that isn't the problem. Lukaku tonight showed the difference between a 30m striker and the strikers we settle for 10m or less. Dealing with what we have, I'd pick Joselu o we Diouf. It just proves if you put money into a player re.imbula you get quality I can't argue with that but the problem for us remains creating chances. We aren't among the lowest scorers because we're missing bagfuls every week. It's also worth highlighting that Diouf doesn't, as suggested, 'start over Joselu every week'. He's just come back into the team and has started three games up front since September. In a season where he's had injury niggles and his mum died in awful circumstances.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Mar 12, 2016 20:08:53 GMT
Creating more chances will only mean Diouf will miss more. As for him getting into those positions I think any decent striker would do that it's the minimum that's expected. In a tight game when chances are few it was sods law it dropped to the least instinctive finisher in our lineup. Next season we need to find better otherwise I can't see us progressing Let's create more chances anyway and put that to the test eh?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2016 20:09:47 GMT
My opinion like I said, what's yours? Only 4 times.
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