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Post by Pugsley on Jan 23, 2016 17:29:15 GMT
We were better when the forward line was finally put in order, 45 minutes too late. Unfortunately, we have the best centre back in England and a load of others who can't hold a candle to him. We have 8 days to buy a proper centre back. We let one go before the start of this season, signed one who is not as good as the one we sold, this was always going to bite us in the bollocks with Ryan's back problems. Where have you been for 3 months? Lost today have we? Grow a pair.
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Post by greystokie on Jan 23, 2016 17:32:05 GMT
I think Hughes got it totally wrong, 3 forwards and only 2 in midfield, Charlie or van ginkel should have played along side whealan, and why bring crouch on and take Shaq off? When Hughes gets it wrong he certainly gets it wrong! I think Hughes had realised the game was lost by then and took Shaq off to give him as much rest as he could in advance of Tuesday but it certainly did leave us with no creative outlet.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2016 17:32:18 GMT
Amazing, two weeks ago we din't need anyone, now we need at least four. Our support is riddled with babies who can't take a poor display and result. This ^
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Post by stokecitydom on Jan 23, 2016 17:34:07 GMT
Amazing, two weeks ago we din't need anyone, now we need at least four. Our support is riddled with babies who can't take a poor display and result. I'd be surprised if there was anyone who honestly believed that we didn't need anyone. For me we've needed a central midfielder & a winger since August. Games like this just highlight the issues we have when we have an injury/dip in form (Arnautovic & Bojan).
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Post by Rick Grimes on Jan 23, 2016 17:35:21 GMT
Diouf is wasted out wide.
There's also no way we should be starting a Premier League game with both Diouf and Walters as our wide men.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2016 17:37:29 GMT
Those saying we don't need a striker and centre half, today proves we do. WE HAVE FIVE STRIKERS. Two were on the bloody wing. We have enough strikers, possibly too many. We need a winger.
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Post by butlerstbob on Jan 23, 2016 17:38:24 GMT
I think Hughes got it totally wrong, 3 forwards and only 2 in midfield, Charlie or van ginkel should have played along side whealan, and why bring crouch on and take Shaq off? When Hughes gets it wrong he certainly gets it wrong! I think Hughes had realised the game was lost by then and took Shaq off to give him as much rest as he could in advance of Tuesday but it certainly did leave us with no creative outlet. Totally get that and agree with it mate, I said before the game I would rest players today as Tuesday is a much more important game, but to bring crouch on when we needed players in midfield was crazy!
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Post by crapslinger on Jan 23, 2016 17:38:52 GMT
We let one go before the start of this season, signed one who is not as good as the one we sold, this was always going to bite us in the bollocks with Ryan's back problems. Where have you been for 3 months? Lost today have we? Grow a pair. I have been here for the past 3 months , yes we did lose today by the way it is the matter of the performance that should be a worry, when Ryan went off we looked so shit defensively at CB, as we did at the start of the season when Ryan was out.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Jan 23, 2016 17:39:22 GMT
Those saying we don't need a striker and centre half, today proves we do. WE HAVE FIVE STRIKERS. Two were on the bloody wing. We have enough strikers, possibly too many. We need a winger. Indeed. We created one proper chance, how would another striker have helped that?
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Post by wuzza on Jan 23, 2016 17:40:00 GMT
Amazing, two weeks ago we din't need anyone, now we need at least four. Our support is riddled with babies who can't take a poor display and result. This is really tired stuff now Pugs. If you can't see any problems or issues fine but if others can does it require silly name calling? (Most people on this board have witnessed more defeats than they could put a number to so your analysis is deeply flawed as well)
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Post by Pugsley on Jan 23, 2016 17:42:32 GMT
Amazing, two weeks ago we din't need anyone, now we need at least four. Our support is riddled with babies who can't take a poor display and result. This is really tired stuff now Pugs. If you can't see any problems or issues fine but if others can does it require silly name calling? (Most people on this board have witnessed more defeats than they could put a number to so your analysis is deeply flawed as well) Funny how you and your ilk are on like a flash as soon as the whistle goes on a poor display and result. We have issues like every club and we need players to be brought in but the over reaction is pathetic and embarrassing.
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Post by WoodbineWright2@ on Jan 23, 2016 17:45:11 GMT
We were awful and deserved nothing. Leicester continue to prove that they are where they are deservedly.
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Post by trigger on Jan 23, 2016 17:47:24 GMT
The only issues we have are owners and a CEO who think they can get by in this league by spending next to nothing every transfer windows and improving every week.
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Post by wuzza on Jan 23, 2016 17:48:09 GMT
This is really tired stuff now Pugs. If you can't see any problems or issues fine but if others can does it require silly name calling? (Most people on this board have witnessed more defeats than they could put a number to so your analysis is deeply flawed as well) Funny how you and your ilk are on like a flash as soon as the whistle goes on a poor display and result. We have issues like every club and we need players to be brought in but the over reaction is pathetic and embarrassing. I'lve never said anything different - sometimes we are good sometimes we are absolutely not. We are mid table no more no less. Nothing very over-reactive in that I think. The rest I'll leave to the rather paranoid stance you appear to like to take for some reason best known to you.
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Post by YounginStoke on Jan 23, 2016 17:49:28 GMT
The only issues we have are owners and a CEO who think they can get by in this league by spending next to nothing every transfer windows and improving every week. The money has to be spent on the right players, we do are due diligence before spending big money for a club of our stature.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 23, 2016 17:50:06 GMT
Those saying we don't need a striker and centre half, today proves we do. WE HAVE FIVE STRIKERS. Two were on the bloody wing. We have enough strikers, possibly too many. We need a winger. The only striker we have capable of scoring goals is diouf but for whatever reason he's not the answer the manager is looking for. Look at today's results. The common theme is goalscorers score goals consistently. Vardy, Kane, Austin, ighalo have all scored today AGAIN. We could play until next week and we still wouldn't score. We need a striker, we desperately need a winger and the superb performance of kante today shows we need a midfield player as well if we want to progress any further. As for Wilson, the less said about him the better really. Let's just hope he isn't playing on Tuesday night. If he is, we can kiss goodbye to any hope of getting the result we need. Having conceded first we've not come back to win a single game this season and that is purely down to a lack of consistent goal threat.
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Post by trigger on Jan 23, 2016 17:52:51 GMT
The only issues we have are owners and a CEO who think they can get by in this league by spending next to nothing every transfer windows and improving every week. The money has to be spent on the right players, we do are due diligence before spending big money for a club of our stature. Yes that's right, even though others clubs are adhering to this nonsense....cough
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Post by crapslinger on Jan 23, 2016 17:53:19 GMT
WE HAVE FIVE STRIKERS. Two were on the bloody wing. We have enough strikers, possibly too many. We need a winger. The only striker we have capable of scoring goals is diouf but for whatever reason he's not the answer the manager is looking for. Look at today's results. The common theme is goalscorers score goals consistently. Vardy, Kane, Austin, ighalo have all scored today AGAIN. We could play until next week and we still wouldn't score. We need a striker, we desperately need a winger and the superb performance of kante today shows we need a midfield player as well if we want to progress any further. As for Wilson, the less said about him the better really. Let's just hope he isn't playing on Tuesday night. If he is, we can kiss goodbye to any hope of getting the result we need. Having conceded first we've not come back to win a single game this season and that is purely down to a lack of consistent goal threat. Ryan coming back has papered over the cracks at CB, the lack of goals is a massive issue but we have been relatively strong at the back with Ryan possibly out we will have problems at both ends as today showed.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Jan 23, 2016 17:53:54 GMT
WE HAVE FIVE STRIKERS. Two were on the bloody wing. We have enough strikers, possibly too many. We need a winger. The only striker we have capable of scoring goals is diouf but for whatever reason he's not the answer the manager is looking for. Look at today's results. The common theme is goalscorers score goals consistently. Vardy, Kane, Austin, ighalo have all scored today AGAIN. We could play until next week and we still wouldn't score. We need a striker, we desperately need a winger and the superb performance of kante today shows we need a midfield player as well if we want to progress any further. As for Wilson, the less said about him the better really. Let's just hope he isn't playing on Tuesday night. If he is, we can kiss goodbye to any hope of getting the result we need. Having conceded first we've not come back to win a single game this season and that is purely down to a lack of consistent goal threat. Dave, we created nothing. A striker isn't going to change that. Create more and we'll score more.
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Post by YounginStoke on Jan 23, 2016 17:54:15 GMT
The money has to be spent on the right players, we do are due diligence before spending big money for a club of our stature. Yes that's right, even though others clubs are adhering to this nonsense....cough Let's see how Villa fare next season, after the amount of money spent last summer eh?
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Post by bassmaster on Jan 23, 2016 17:55:02 GMT
Why don't we have one of these analytical, informative thread starters from Shakey after a win?
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Post by Rick Grimes on Jan 23, 2016 17:58:15 GMT
We didn't create anything today so a different striker wouldn't have changed much
but
For whatever reason Hughes doesn't fancy Diouf as the main man, and I rate Joselu but he's not a 15-20 goal a season striker and neither are any of the other options we have.
If Hughes isn't going to play Diouf as the main man up top then we do need another striker up top.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 23, 2016 18:00:15 GMT
WE HAVE FIVE STRIKERS. Two were on the bloody wing. We have enough strikers, possibly too many. We need a winger. Indeed. We created one proper chance, how would another striker have helped that? I disagree Rob. I think the reason Sparky played Joselu in the hole in the second half was because he (rightly) new that we needed his aerial presence on the pitch. Thing is, Joselu isn't really creative enough to play the no. 10 role and if we're going to create chances for our loan striker then this will become a part of the problem. If we're going to play Whelan and Afellay as the two in a 4-2-3-1, with a creative player behind the striker, then your loan striker has to be good in the air (or we have no aerial presence on the pitch) AND he needs to have pace. We don't have striker with both of those attributes on our books at the moment.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 23, 2016 18:00:28 GMT
The only striker we have capable of scoring goals is diouf but for whatever reason he's not the answer the manager is looking for. Look at today's results. The common theme is goalscorers score goals consistently. Vardy, Kane, Austin, ighalo have all scored today AGAIN. We could play until next week and we still wouldn't score. We need a striker, we desperately need a winger and the superb performance of kante today shows we need a midfield player as well if we want to progress any further. As for Wilson, the less said about him the better really. Let's just hope he isn't playing on Tuesday night. If he is, we can kiss goodbye to any hope of getting the result we need. Having conceded first we've not come back to win a single game this season and that is purely down to a lack of consistent goal threat. Dave, we created nothing. A striker isn't going to change that. Create more and we'll score more. We created two glorious chances. Walters and Joselu fluffed their lines, AGAIN.
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Post by trigger on Jan 23, 2016 18:01:25 GMT
Yes that's right, even though others clubs are adhering to this nonsense....cough Let's see how Villa fare next season, after the amount of money spent last summer eh? The only issues we have are owners and a CEO who think they can get by in this league by spending next to nothing every transfer windows and improving every week. In all honesty mate I've no idea what its all on about, what I do know is that clubs of our stature and even smaller spend money, " we don't ", don't believe the shite were supposedly the model club and everyone aspires to be. Standing still and you get, well performances like today.
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Post by RICH68 on Jan 23, 2016 18:01:42 GMT
We were awful and deserved nothing. Leicester continue to prove that they are where they are deservedly. Absolutely
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Post by YounginStoke on Jan 23, 2016 18:03:14 GMT
Let's see how Villa fare next season, after the amount of money spent last summer eh? The only issues we have are owners and a CEO who think they can get by in this league by spending next to nothing every transfer windows and improving every week. In all honesty mate I've no idea what its all on about, what I do know is that clubs of our stature and even smaller spend money, " we don't ", don't believe the shite were supposedly the model club and everyone aspires to be. Standing still and you get, well performances like today. We haven't stood still we smashed our club record transfer fee last summer, I personally don't class that as 'standing still'.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jan 23, 2016 18:03:54 GMT
The game was lost before kick off with that team. And some people think a wide player isn't a priority. We had two wide players on the pitch playing out of position in Afellay and Shaqiri.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Jan 23, 2016 18:04:50 GMT
The game was lost before kick off with that team. And some people think a wide player isn't a priority. We had two wide players on the pitch playing out of position in Afellay and Shaqiri. Shaqiri is one of two we have at the club. Afellay isn't the answer out wide.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Jan 23, 2016 18:05:46 GMT
Dave, we created nothing. A striker isn't going to change that. Create more and we'll score more. We created two glorious chances. Walters and Joselu fluffed their lines, AGAIN. Two isn't enough Dave. In the first half we didn't create anything at all. Literally nothing.
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