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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 7, 2015 22:19:36 GMT
I don't remember him being that bad tbh. I enjoyed England in 2002 tbh, I was a young sprightly 15 year old who hadn't been gripped cynicism and a loathing of everything (I disliked Beckham mind the bottling cunt-lead to the first goal vs Brazil). Yes but he had a free pass for me with getting us there in the first place, one of the best things in Footy I've seen. Being older I was well and truly gripped unfortunately...forgive me I've never overly liked Beckham the footballer and it's nothing to do with Argentina or him being a celebrity (I respect that tbh, very clever businessman or he's allowed himself to be used very cleverly!).
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Post by numpty40 on Jul 7, 2015 22:21:55 GMT
If this actually happens then you have to wonder why we were never in for Micah Richards?. You have to think there was an issue between Hughesy and Richards. Richards would be a better signing than Johnson but I'd be quite happy to see Johnson at Stoke
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jul 7, 2015 22:23:49 GMT
We've had this discussion before, more than once and my opinion is a) Glenn Johnson has been unfairly maligned throughout his career, b) when playing for England he was often the only member of that back line who showed any ability to defend at all and c) when playing against Stoke, Glenn Johnson has consistently been Liverpool's main threat (the Suarez League Cup game aside) and their most likely creator of a goal. Some achievement for a full-back. Tony Pulis used to actually select his team a clear intent to "stop him marauding forward" even though the players he chose to do so were often totally inadequate.
Glen Johnson for me, would be an exceptionally good signing and one that would improve of immensely I would have thought, unless his previous injury really does see him in the "shot to bits" category. From the odd occasion I saw him play last season, he didn't look "shot to pieces" to me.
Some people will find reason to moan whoever we sign.
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Post by discokaraoke on Jul 7, 2015 22:24:33 GMT
Can't see this reaching 100 pages ?? Aup bro, if HE did sign for us, Bayern would do 100 pages explaining how wank he is easy.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jul 7, 2015 22:25:55 GMT
If this actually happens then you have to wonder why we were never in for Micah Richards?. Perhaps because Mark Hughes has already managed Michah Richards and didn't particularly rate either a) his attitude (there were stories of disciplinary issues souring their relationship), b) his ability as a player or c) a combination of both.
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Post by stokesaint1 on Jul 7, 2015 22:27:34 GMT
So all the talk of only signing younger players with sell on value has fallen by the wayside, before it was even implemented. Underwhelming, except the fact he does help with the home grown requirement. Looks like we're into Plan C. I can't see this one rocking the City.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 7, 2015 22:27:55 GMT
Can't see this reaching 100 pages ?? Aup bro, if HE did sign for us, Bayern would do 100 pages explaining how wank he is easy. It'd be one long post that went into a million words spread over the 100 pages.
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Post by LphPotter on Jul 7, 2015 22:29:24 GMT
4 pages already!
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Post by discokaraoke on Jul 7, 2015 22:30:41 GMT
We've had this discussion before, more than once and my opinion is a) Glenn Johnson has been unfairly maligned throughout his career, b) when playing for England he was often the only member of that back line who showed any ability to defend at all and c) when playing against Stoke, Glenn Johnson has consistently been Liverpool's main threat (the Suarez League Cup game aside) and their most likely creator of a goal. Some achievement for a full-back. Tony Pulis used to actually select his team a clear intent to "stop him marauding forward" even though the players he chose to do so were often totally inadequate. Glen Johnson for me, would be an exceptionally good signing and one that would improve of immensely I would have thought, unless his previous injury really does see him in the "shot to bits" category. From the odd occasion I saw him play last season, he didn't look "shot to pieces" to me. Some people will find reason to moan whoever we sign. Well said .
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jul 7, 2015 22:31:33 GMT
So all the talk of only signing younger players with sell on value has fallen by the wayside, before it was even implemented. Underwhelming, except the fact he does help with the home grown requirement. Looks like we're into Plan C. I can't see this one rocking the City. You're right mate. Bojan, Joselu, Muniesa etc are absolutely ancient aren't they? As always, it is all about the balance and trying to get the right blend of youth and experience. Get a good quality, free transfer right back that in terms of budget balancing, addresses a current weakness in the team and allows us to spend bigger on players for the more creative areas of the pitch. With a young goalkeeper and centre half, the experience Glen Johnson would bring could be invaluable.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 7, 2015 22:31:52 GMT
Oh and if anyone asks "well who the fuck do you want then"....
A right footed Erik Pieters please. That'd do. Cheap, solid, decent link up play, ace.
Where is this mythical beast?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 7, 2015 22:32:58 GMT
We've had this discussion before, more than once and my opinion is a) Glenn Johnson has been unfairly maligned throughout his career, b) when playing for England he was often the only member of that back line who showed any ability to defend at all and c) when playing against Stoke, Glenn Johnson has consistently been Liverpool's main threat (the Suarez League Cup game aside) and their most likely creator of a goal. Some achievement for a full-back. Tony Pulis used to actually select his team a clear intent to "stop him marauding forward" even though the players he chose to do so were often totally inadequate. Glen Johnson for me, would be an exceptionally good signing and one that would improve of immensely I would have thought, unless his previous injury really does see him in the "shot to bits" category. From the odd occasion I saw him play last season, he didn't look "shot to pieces" to me. Some people will find reason to moan whoever we sign. Well said . Apart from he's played in a defence with 3 world class defenders in their prime and stuck out like a sore thumb in general whilst playing in the same team as them. There was Upson though as well so there's one that has been as wank as him in an England shirt.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jul 7, 2015 22:33:09 GMT
We've had this discussion before, more than once and my opinion is a) Glenn Johnson has been unfairly maligned throughout his career, b) when playing for England he was often the only member of that back line who showed any ability to defend at all and c) when playing against Stoke, Glenn Johnson has consistently been Liverpool's main threat (the Suarez League Cup game aside) and their most likely creator of a goal. Some achievement for a full-back. Tony Pulis used to actually select his team a clear intent to "stop him marauding forward" even though the players he chose to do so were often totally inadequate. Glen Johnson for me, would be an exceptionally good signing and one that would improve of immensely I would have thought, unless his previous injury really does see him in the "shot to bits" category. From the odd occasion I saw him play last season, he didn't look "shot to pieces" to me. Some people will find reason to moan whoever we sign. Spot on Dave. My only concern would be the length of contract I'd go for 2 with option for 3rd. I think people are forgetting that the Hughes way is so much more than defending hence the reason we got rid of Huth. Johnsons great going forward and I'm sure he's looking on him as starting counters off as much as defending. That's of course if we get him. I'd Defoe take him. I don't know what our fans expect. We have to balance The books and can't be looking to spend 12m on every player.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jul 7, 2015 22:37:19 GMT
Well said . Apart from he's played in a defence with 3 world class defenders in their prime and stuck out like a sore thumb in general whilst playing in the same team as them. There was Upson though as well so there's one that has been as wank as him in an England shirt. You're right. He did stick out like a sore thumb...the two less heralded full-backs stuck out as the only ones who could defend and cope with the pace that the better international sides displayed against us. For Chelsea, he was nothing less than superb. Him and Cole were excellent full-backs in their pomp.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 7, 2015 22:37:41 GMT
So in the majority of his career he was England's best defender despite playing mainly alongside Rio Ferdinand, John Terry and Ashley Cole. nah!
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Post by upthefud on Jul 7, 2015 22:38:01 GMT
I'd take him but I think this rumour is a load of bollocks.
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Post by LphPotter on Jul 7, 2015 22:39:15 GMT
I'd take him probably
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 7, 2015 22:40:10 GMT
Apart from he's played in a defence with 3 world class defenders in their prime and stuck out like a sore thumb in general whilst playing in the same team as them. There was Upson though as well so there's one that has been as wank as him in an England shirt. You're right. He did stick out like a sore thumb...the two less heralded full-backs stuck out as the only ones who could defend and cope with the pace that the better international sides displayed against us. For Chelsea, he was nothing less than superb. Him and Cole were excellent full-backs in their pomp. Less heralded? Ashley Cole is looked upon as one of the best of his generation, I think he's been the best left back in the world since I can remember (1994/95). He's utter class. He's in a different galaxy to Johnson.
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Post by maninasuitcase on Jul 7, 2015 22:41:51 GMT
Cleveland summarises it nicely.
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Post by ukcstokie on Jul 7, 2015 22:42:39 GMT
I've always been a critic of Johnson, but given the way we play - he'd be a very good signing.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jul 7, 2015 22:43:31 GMT
You're right. He did stick out like a sore thumb...the two less heralded full-backs stuck out as the only ones who could defend and cope with the pace that the better international sides displayed against us. For Chelsea, he was nothing less than superb. Him and Cole were excellent full-backs in their pomp. Less heralded? Ashley Cole is looked upon as one of the best of his generation, I think he's been the best left back in the world since I can remember (1994/95). He's utter class. He's in a different galaxy to Johnson. I agree that Cole was superb and I've said many times, of that generation, Cole was the only truly world class player in England's ranks, a player who would have got into and stayed in any side in the world. He never truly got that recognition probably because he was such a horrible little scrote off the pitch. Johnson put the likes of Terry and Ferdinand to shame in that team. Players with much bigger reputations who didn't perform anywhere near as well as Johnson did in an England shirt yet somehow, miraculously, it was Johnson that got the flak whilst those two escaped "scott free". In the 2010 World Cup, John Terry's performances were shambolic, easily as bad as anything the likes of Cahill and Jagielka have produced in an England shirt.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Jul 7, 2015 22:46:15 GMT
I've always been a critic of Johnson, but given the way we play - he'd be a very good signing. Especially in a 3-5-2. I'd sign him just to piss Bayern off!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 7, 2015 22:48:24 GMT
Less heralded? Ashley Cole is looked upon as one of the best of his generation, I think he's been the best left back in the world since I can remember (1994/95). He's utter class. He's in a different galaxy to Johnson. I agree that Cole was superb and I've said many times, of that generation, Cole was the only truly world class player in England's ranks, a player who would have got into and stayed in any side in the world. He never truly got that recognition probably because he was such a horrible little scrote off the pitch. Johnson put the likes of Terry and Ferdinand to shame in that team. Players with much bigger reputations who didn't perform anywhere near as well as Johnson did in an England shirt yet somehow, miraculously, it was Johnson that got the flak whilst those two escaped "scott free". In the 2010 World Cup, John Terry's performances were shambolic, easily as bad as anything the likes of Cahill and Jagielka have produced in an England shirt. He didn't by the fans but in football he is massively regarded. Because Glenda was forever out of position and we were conceding goals where he should be, pretty much like clockwork. Terry was bollocks in 2010 I agree but still Glenda outshone him for wankness. And Upson, another England luminary.
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Post by stokesaint1 on Jul 7, 2015 22:49:27 GMT
So all the talk of only signing younger players with sell on value has fallen by the wayside, before it was even implemented. Underwhelming, except the fact he does help with the home grown requirement. Looks like we're into Plan C. I can't see this one rocking the City. You're right mate. Bojan, Joselu, Muniesa etc are absolutely ancient aren't they? As always, it is all about the balance and trying to get the right blend of youth and experience. Get a good quality, free transfer right back that in terms of budget balancing, addresses a current weakness in the team and allows us to spend bigger on players for the more creative areas of the pitch. With a young goalkeeper and centre half, the experience Glen Johnson would bring could be invaluable. You appear to be a big fan. Looking at your username, I wonder if you're related in any way.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 7, 2015 22:51:15 GMT
I've always been a critic of Johnson, but given the way we play - he'd be a very good signing. Especially in a 3-5-2. I'd sign him just to piss Bayern off! On 4 fronts with that proposal. 1) 3-5-2 is the worst formation in world football 2) Fucking Glenda 3) Wollscheid, the lumbering git would have to play 4) We have no one who can play left wing back Other than that I fucking love it!
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jul 7, 2015 22:53:50 GMT
You're right mate. Bojan, Joselu, Muniesa etc are absolutely ancient aren't they? As always, it is all about the balance and trying to get the right blend of youth and experience. Get a good quality, free transfer right back that in terms of budget balancing, addresses a current weakness in the team and allows us to spend bigger on players for the more creative areas of the pitch. With a young goalkeeper and centre half, the experience Glen Johnson would bring could be invaluable. You appear to be a big fan. Looking at your username, I wonder if you're related in any way. Our surnames are spelt differently :-)
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Post by mailman44 on Jul 7, 2015 23:00:17 GMT
Aup bro, if HE did sign for us, Bayern would do 100 pages explaining how wank he is easy. It'd be one long post that went into a million words spread over the 100 pages. With 6 agendas starting with how Adam is wank, followed closely by Cameron is wanker, MLS is shite, New England Revolution are the only proper side, and two more about how Charlie Adam's goal against Chelsea was lucky.
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Post by discokaraoke on Jul 7, 2015 23:05:21 GMT
It'd be one long post that went into a million words spread over the 100 pages. With 6 agendas starting with how Adam is wank, followed closely by Cameron is wanker, MLS is shite, New England Revolution are the only proper side, and two more about how Charlie Adam's goal against Chelsea was lucky. And wank goal keeping.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 7, 2015 23:05:41 GMT
It'd be one long post that went into a million words spread over the 100 pages. With 6 agendas starting with how Adam is wank, followed closely by Cameron is wanker, MLS is shite, New England Revolution are the only proper side, and two more about how Charlie Adam's goal against Chelsea was lucky. I like the MLS! The Revolution can get fucked at the moment! I've never said it was lucky, that's just a lie. He is pretty wank though and Cameron is much wanker, Johnson is probably a bit wanker!
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Post by DelapsWankingArm on Jul 7, 2015 23:06:08 GMT
Not my 1st choice.
However he's better than Cameron & Bardsley.
Unbelievable how he's getting written off after just a rumour.
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