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SJW
Nov 17, 2015 16:13:13 GMT
Post by potterblade on Nov 17, 2015 16:13:13 GMT
Its done!
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Post by potterblade on Nov 17, 2015 16:13:43 GMT
I have a suit just like that
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SJW
Nov 17, 2015 18:20:06 GMT
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Post by scfcno1fan on Nov 17, 2015 18:20:06 GMT
Didn't realise his mum had died when he was 11.
Which is why he represents Ireland.
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Post by luciani on Nov 17, 2015 18:36:02 GMT
I don't talk football with anyone who doesn't recognise how good/important Walters is. After all what's the point they clearly know nothing about football. Anyone who's played the game knows you need players like him in a team, every manager he has continually picks him, he's our top prem goalscorer, he gives 100% every week. Last season he had most goals and assists didn't he? What more do they want? Post of the week- agree with every word.
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SJW
Nov 17, 2015 18:49:11 GMT
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Post by followyoudown on Nov 17, 2015 18:49:11 GMT
I don't talk football with anyone who doesn't recognise how good/important Walters is. After all what's the point they clearly know nothing about football. Anyone who's played the game knows you need players like him in a team, every manager he has continually picks him, he's our top prem goalscorer, he gives 100% every week. Last season he had most goals and assists didn't he? What more do they want? Post of the week- agree with every word. Diouf outscored him last season has and has 1 in 3 career record with, Walters is 1 in 5. Football didn't start with the premier league you know, 36 goals in 180 odd games as a striker tells it's own story and isn't something to brag about.
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Post by spitthedog on Nov 17, 2015 19:34:14 GMT
Spot on, Lakey, about Mahoney. A genuine honest player who knew his limitations but always pushed himself to his limits.A lad who never sought the highlights and played every game for the team, giving 100% game after game,underrated, or perhaps overlooked by many, but the sought of player every team needs-as per SJW- and a nice personality to go with it. Nice personality, would that be in the summer when he was whinging at every opportunity about his contract and making wild and incorrect statements about his stats? Its weird how SJW is regarded as honest and committed and N'Zonzi was never accorded this description in all his time at Stoke, yet SJW has put out far more negative stuff about the club than N'Zonzi ever did.
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Post by dozintheseventees on Nov 17, 2015 19:34:53 GMT
Post of the week- agree with every word. Diouf outscored him last season has and has 1 in 3 career record with, Walters is 1 in 5. Football didn't start with the premier league you know, 36 goals in 180 odd games as a striker tells it's own story and isn't something to brag about. That depends if you've actually played the bulk of your key years either on the wing or as a deep lying forward (as at Stoke and Ipswich) - some 6/7 years in total. When he HAS been played as a 'forward' under Pulis he played so deep as to give him little opportunity of reaching a decent scoring rate. Despite that, he's failed just once to hit double figures for Stoke. Add to that the fact that he gets himself all over the pitch during games to help out in midfield and defence and you've got a pretty special player. He will NEVER be fully appreciated here and I gave up expecting him to be some time ago. My favourit Stoke City player by a mile and one of our best value signings.
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SJW
Nov 17, 2015 19:51:49 GMT
Post by mrcoke on Nov 17, 2015 19:51:49 GMT
Nice personality, would that be in the summer when he was whinging at every opportunity about his contract and making wild and incorrect statements about his stats? Its weird how SJW is regarded as honest and committed and N'Zonzi was never accorded this description in all his time at Stoke, yet SJW has put out far more negative stuff about the club than N'Zonzi ever did. FYI: We don't believe everything we read in the papers, but N'Zonzi made it clear year after year he was not settled at Stoke, even after the club and fans lauded him as player of the season.. sportwitness.ning.com/forum/topics/n-zonzi-says-he-had-to-leave-comfort-zone-of-stoke-city
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SJW
Nov 17, 2015 20:21:11 GMT
Post by chayzenbacon on Nov 17, 2015 20:21:11 GMT
Nice personality, would that be in the summer when he was whinging at every opportunity about his contract and making wild and incorrect statements about his stats? Its weird how SJW is regarded as honest and committed and N'Zonzi was never accorded this description in all his time at Stoke, yet SJW has put out far more negative stuff about the club than N'Zonzi ever did. It's down to what they do (or did) on the pitch. When Walters plays he is never less than 100% committed. When Nzonzi played he appeared at times to be less than 100% committed.
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SJW
Nov 17, 2015 20:38:32 GMT
Post by spitthedog on Nov 17, 2015 20:38:32 GMT
Its weird how SJW is regarded as honest and committed and N'Zonzi was never accorded this description in all his time at Stoke, yet SJW has put out far more negative stuff about the club than N'Zonzi ever did. FYI: We don't believe everything we read in the papers, but N'Zonzi made it clear year after year he was not settled at Stoke, even after the club and fans lauded him as player of the season.. sportwitness.ning.com/forum/topics/n-zonzi-says-he-had-to-leave-comfort-zone-of-stoke-cityIs there any criticism of our club there?
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Post by Staying up for Grandadstokey on Nov 17, 2015 21:30:51 GMT
Its weird how SJW is regarded as honest and committed and N'Zonzi was never accorded this description in all his time at Stoke, yet SJW has put out far more negative stuff about the club than N'Zonzi ever did. It's down to what they do (or did) on the pitch. When Walters plays he is never less than 100% committed. When Nzonzi played he appeared at times to be less than 100% committed. Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard.
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SJW
Nov 17, 2015 22:37:56 GMT
Post by greenstokie on Nov 17, 2015 22:37:56 GMT
Has a decent enough strike rate for Ireland at just over 1:4 ratio and he's also mostly been played on the wing with even more defensive duties. Has taken a while for some Irish fans to really appreciate him too. Opposition full backs are terrified to leave their posts when he's down their wing.
I watched the game last night with my son, who couldn't believe the amount of energy SWJ brought to the game. I told him that anytime I watch him play for Stoke he justs keeps on going right till the end and sure enough on 90 minutes with the game effectively over, he was still chasing down a long punt from defence.
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SJW
Nov 17, 2015 22:47:09 GMT
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Post by followyoudown on Nov 17, 2015 22:47:09 GMT
Diouf outscored him last season has and has 1 in 3 career record with, Walters is 1 in 5. Football didn't start with the premier league you know, 36 goals in 180 odd games as a striker tells it's own story and isn't something to brag about. That depends if you've actually played the bulk of your key years either on the wing or as a deep lying forward (as at Stoke and Ipswich) - some 6/7 years in total. When he HAS been played as a 'forward' under Pulis he played so deep as to give him little opportunity of reaching a decent scoring rate. Despite that, he's failed just once to hit double figures for Stoke. Add to that the fact that he gets himself all over the pitch during games to help out in midfield and defence and you've got a pretty special player. He will NEVER be fully appreciated here and I gave up expecting him to be some time ago. My favourit Stoke City player by a mile and one of our best value signings. It's no accident that he hasn't played up front in those years, managers haven't played him there as he simply isn't good enough, the fact you're listing attributes other than playing and scoring shows you probably recognise this yourself. For the great goal against Chelsea in the cup he missed a much easier chance as well as two more chances in the Newcastle game and I could probably list more, Diouf is the better option and will play when he is right. Walters will remain a squad player and i've no problem retaining him for that but with the improvements we are making season on season, I would expect he'll face a battle to stay in the squad next season.
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SJW
Nov 17, 2015 22:51:26 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 17, 2015 22:51:26 GMT
Shouldn't be starting at the weekend.
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SJW
Nov 18, 2015 0:27:21 GMT
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Nov 18, 2015 0:27:21 GMT
Shouldn't be starting at the weekend. i completely agree, but I'd be surprised if Hughes didn't stick with the same team that beat Chelsea; barring injury.
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SJW
Nov 18, 2015 9:05:58 GMT
Post by capto on Nov 18, 2015 9:05:58 GMT
Shouldn't be starting at the weekend. Why? Is it to rest him after the internationals or that you don't think he's good enough?
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SJW
Nov 18, 2015 10:24:22 GMT
Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 18, 2015 10:24:22 GMT
Shouldn't be starting at the weekend. Why? Is it to rest him after the internationals or that you don't think he's good enough? Neither. I think Diouf is better.
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Post by stantheman on Nov 18, 2015 10:37:02 GMT
Shouldn't be starting at the weekend. Have you ever thought of setting up your own, personal message board?
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SJW
Nov 18, 2015 10:38:50 GMT
Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 18, 2015 10:38:50 GMT
Shouldn't be starting at the weekend. Have you ever thought of setting up your own, personal message board? Diouf is by far the better striker.
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SJW
Nov 18, 2015 10:48:56 GMT
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Post by foxysgloves on Nov 18, 2015 10:48:56 GMT
Have you ever thought of setting up your own, personal message board? Diouf is by far the better striker. I'm a big fan of Diouf but I don't think there's all that much between them. On their day they are both very, very good players. All Hughes has to do is decide who is most suited to the opposition, who is in form, who is physically sharpest etc etc. As a former striker himself it's probably the decision I'm usually most confident he'll get right.
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SJW
Nov 18, 2015 11:02:51 GMT
Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 18, 2015 11:02:51 GMT
Diouf is by far the better striker. I'm a big fan of Diouf but I don't think there's all that much between them. On their day they are both very, very good players. All Hughes has to do is decide who is most suited to the opposition, who is in form, who is physically sharpest etc etc. As a former striker himself it's probably the decision I'm usually most confident he'll get right. He's way better. Better finisher, better in the air, more of a threat, has the pace we need on the break, puts as much if not more work in. The only thing is his touch but Jon's isn't that much better. Diouf will get us 15 goals a season. He has to play.
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SJW
Nov 18, 2015 11:18:20 GMT
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Post by foxysgloves on Nov 18, 2015 11:18:20 GMT
I'm a big fan of Diouf but I don't think there's all that much between them. On their day they are both very, very good players. All Hughes has to do is decide who is most suited to the opposition, who is in form, who is physically sharpest etc etc. As a former striker himself it's probably the decision I'm usually most confident he'll get right. He's way better. Better finisher, better in the air, more of a threat, has the pace we need on the break, puts as much if not more work in. The only thing is his touch but Jon's isn't that much better. Diouf will get us 15 goals a season. He has to play. He has to play.....irrespective of form, fitness, mental state? Trust Hughes to pick the right man.
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SJW
Nov 18, 2015 11:35:30 GMT
Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 18, 2015 11:35:30 GMT
He's way better. Better finisher, better in the air, more of a threat, has the pace we need on the break, puts as much if not more work in. The only thing is his touch but Jon's isn't that much better. Diouf will get us 15 goals a season. He has to play. He has to play.....irrespective of form, fitness, mental state? Trust Hughes to pick the right man. All of the above seem fine. I'm an advocate of playing your best players irrespective anyway, especially when it comes to strikers, gives them confidence.
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SJW
Nov 18, 2015 12:28:25 GMT
Post by WorkingclassHero on Nov 18, 2015 12:28:25 GMT
Shouldn't be starting at the weekend. Have you ever thought of setting up your own, personal message board? I'm beginning to think you really have no clue about football. Are you sure you are not a crewe supporter? Walters is one of our best ever players, no doubt in your eyes he's not messi so he must be shit, you pal are clueless
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SJW
Nov 18, 2015 12:29:56 GMT
Post by WorkingclassHero on Nov 18, 2015 12:29:56 GMT
And to be clear here both Diouf and Walters should be starting every game as they areour two most effective forwards
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2015 12:37:27 GMT
Have you ever thought of setting up your own, personal message board? I'm beginning to think you really have no clue about football. Are you sure you are not a crewe supporter? Walters is one of our best ever players, no doubt in your eyes he's not messi so he must be shit, you pal are clueless Walters is a quality player and adds a lot to the setup. If it's a straight out battle between him and diouf for the striker's role then diouf should start if fit. That's just being honest as he's far more of a goal threat.that isn't slagging SJW off at all,just an honest appraisal.....and by the way,saying SJW is one of our best ever players is absolutely fucking ludicrous beyond belief!!!! I think even Jon boy would laugh his arse off hearing that!
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SJW
Nov 18, 2015 12:39:42 GMT
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Nov 18, 2015 12:39:42 GMT
I'm a big fan of Diouf but I don't think there's all that much between them. On their day they are both very, very good players. All Hughes has to do is decide who is most suited to the opposition, who is in form, who is physically sharpest etc etc. As a former striker himself it's probably the decision I'm usually most confident he'll get right. He's way better. Better finisher, better in the air, more of a threat, has the pace we need on the break, puts as much if not more work in. The only thing is his touch but Jon's isn't that much better. Diouf will get us 15 goals a season. He has to play. Better in the air? Bugger off Walters is one of the best we've got in the air. And his touch is loads better than Diouf (then again so is mine) I'd still rather have Diouf up top though simply for his pace.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 18, 2015 12:45:20 GMT
And to be clear here both Diouf and Walters should be starting every game as they areour two most effective forwards Shaq Bojan Arnie Diouf Walters on the bench and filling in when needed. Excellent place to be.
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SJW
Nov 18, 2015 12:45:59 GMT
Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 18, 2015 12:45:59 GMT
He's way better. Better finisher, better in the air, more of a threat, has the pace we need on the break, puts as much if not more work in. The only thing is his touch but Jon's isn't that much better. Diouf will get us 15 goals a season. He has to play. Better in the air? Bugger off Walters is one of the best we've got in the air. And his touch is loads better than Diouf (then again so is mine) I'd still rather have Diouf up top though simply for his pace. I know who'd rather be on the end of the cross and it ain't Walters.
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SJW
Nov 18, 2015 12:47:09 GMT
Post by WorkingclassHero on Nov 18, 2015 12:47:09 GMT
Jon Walters has to be right up there as one of our best players in the modern era. I'm interested in your criteria to think that is laughable?
He may not be the most technically gifted but he's right up there for me with Ryan, Rory, Ric and Glen as legends
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