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Post by toppercorner on Dec 30, 2015 12:59:28 GMT
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Post by JoeinOz on Dec 30, 2015 13:04:45 GMT
Do we take the piss more than any other fans?
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Post by kustokie on Dec 30, 2015 13:07:08 GMT
Bloody 'ell. I don't usually comment on journalism but this is ridiculous. I usually like to read the Guardian when I come over, not anyone.
"Constipation of thought, diarrhea of expression!"
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Post by miltonstokie on Dec 30, 2015 13:09:33 GMT
He's an Everton fan.
Obviously still wounded
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Post by bogus on Dec 30, 2015 13:09:44 GMT
I wonder how much Wenger has paid them for that?
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Post by march4 on Dec 30, 2015 13:10:32 GMT
What a steaming pile of horse poo.
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Post by southstanddan on Dec 30, 2015 13:13:04 GMT
Well he was struggling for something to write about!
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Dec 30, 2015 13:15:14 GMT
He's an Everton Fan.
Coincidence?
Think not.
Fuck him.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Dec 30, 2015 13:16:17 GMT
People do it because it's usually tremendous fun and at times it can influence the outcome of games.
He is perplexed why Stoke fans would treat Man utd employees and supporters like that, I'm perplexed why a supporter of neither would give a fuck.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 30, 2015 13:18:36 GMT
Clearly written by someone who has no concept of supporting a small provincial club surrounded by hordes of glory hunting wankers of all persuasions.
I love stoke city more than I hate any of our opposition but my respect and admiration of fellow clubs and supporters is almost exclusively reserved for clubs in the lower leagues.
Revelling in the woes of the opposition is part and parcel of supporting a less successful club.
This guy isn't a supporter of such a club nor does he originate from such a city, clearly.
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Post by Robo10 on Dec 30, 2015 13:19:14 GMT
This is very true, but made me chuckle!!
chadders79 7m ago
Erms, it's Man United, not some cute little puppy. When they're down, you bloody well kick them and keep them down as long as you possibly can....because in the end, the Empire always builds another fucking death star.
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Post by Kjones9 on Dec 30, 2015 13:20:17 GMT
Is he saying that it's mutually exclusive that if you love your own club you can't hate another?
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Post by drfootball on Dec 30, 2015 13:20:38 GMT
Typical Premier League era journo.Football should be purely entertaining and jolly fine episodes should greeted with polite applause.These people think football was invented in Manchester by Rupert Murdoch in 1992 and have no idea of it`s tribal nature.If he`s think`s the Van Gaal goading was a little unsporting hope he`s not at the Brit on January 17th for the traditional roasting of Hercule Poirot !  |
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Post by wuzza on Dec 30, 2015 13:21:11 GMT
These on-line pieces for national newspapers get odder and odder. It looks like they are handed out to 16 year olds on work experience days.
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Post by stokefanone on Dec 30, 2015 13:25:08 GMT
I think I see where he is coming from, to an outsider when you see the performances against the big sides in the last 12 months, we are not an inferior team, we have many players of top pedigree.
Its like mocking them saying, you are not as good as you think you are because we can beat you, as though we see ourselves as inferior. What we should be saying is, now start to fear us because we are coming for you every time we play because we are stoke and no one is better than us. In the mid 1970's we were as good as anyone and expected to beat anyone, like we are now. Lets be a little arrogant.
On the other hand he may just not understand football fans.
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Post by march4 on Dec 30, 2015 13:28:16 GMT
And what was this crap about it not being a local derby. This site; www.sportmapworld.com/map/soccer/england/fa-premier-league/Shows the Theme Park as 33miles from the Brit whereas as The Hawthorns are 34 miles away. When added to all the Glory Hunters walking back to their homes in Trentham, Heron Cross and Meir Hay after the game, this was a real grudge match. |
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Post by partickpotter on Dec 30, 2015 13:28:43 GMT
I find it reassuring that the sensitive writers of the Guardian are uncomfortable with our support.
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Post by PerCyfilth ....Captains Log on Dec 30, 2015 13:30:35 GMT
Written from the comfort of his armchair in his swish London office whilst listening to the ramblings of Dwight Yorke on his radio. Numpty.
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Post by march4 on Dec 30, 2015 13:33:17 GMT
I find it reassuring that the sensitive writers of the Guardian are uncomfortable with our support. One presumes the author is a glory hunter. |
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Post by Linx on Dec 30, 2015 13:33:17 GMT
Loved Proudstokie's reply. Well done, that man.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2015 13:34:09 GMT
A bit of a bizarre piece 4 days after his match report, which repeatedly referred to the Stoke fans, and how uncomfortable the experience was for Van Gaal and his team. Hughes spoke about tearing into a team low on confidence. Stoke fans have a part to play in that. Not much support for his views in the comments. Well said, ProudStokie. Did Louis van Gaal expect to find sympathy at Stoke? He didn’t get it
The Britannia Stadium is not an ideal hunting ground for those down on their luck, and newly stylish Stoke City showed no mercy in handing Manchester United a fourth successive defeatwww.theguardian.com/football/2015/dec/26/louis-van-gaal-stoke-manchester-united-defeat |
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Post by djduncanjames on Dec 30, 2015 13:36:10 GMT
I don't get how taking the piss out of a former first division rival signifies an inferiority complex on our part. The whole article is condescending IMO.  |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Dec 30, 2015 13:37:22 GMT
Written from the comfort of his armchair in his swish London office whilst listening to the ramblings of Dwight Yorke on his radio. Numpty. It is a blog not a regular article. Is the writer a journalist? I'm never quite sure why the national newspapers publish blogs on their main websites. If they want to publish blogs they'd be better having a separate blogging website so as not to confuse people into assuming that the writers are regular journalists. Blogs in a newspaper context are not so very different from the letters pages. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2015 13:38:40 GMT
Written from the comfort of his armchair in his swish London office whilst listening to the ramblings of Dwight Yorke on his radio. Numpty. It is a blog not a regular article. Chances are that the writer isn't a journalist. I'm never quite sure why the national newspapers publish blogs on their main websites. If they want to publish blogs they'd be better having a separate blogging website so as not to confuse people into assuming that the writers are regular journalists. Blogs in a newspaper context are not so very different from the letters pages. I think the writer of this article is their top man, isn't he? |
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Post by bristolpotter on Dec 30, 2015 13:38:54 GMT
They just don't get it do they zzzz
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Dec 30, 2015 13:40:37 GMT
It is a blog not a regular article. Chances are that the writer isn't a journalist. I'm never quite sure why the national newspapers publish blogs on their main websites. If they want to publish blogs they'd be better having a separate blogging website so as not to confuse people into assuming that the writers are regular journalists. Blogs in a newspaper context are not so very different from the letters pages. I think the writer of this article is their top man, isn't he? Yes, you may be right - I still find it odd that a newspaper jounalist writes a column on the one hand and a blog on the other - all in the same paper. It is a sort of Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde way of going about your business. |
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Dec 30, 2015 13:45:44 GMT
It's called a sense of humour you Guardian ponce!
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Post by silverdollar on Dec 30, 2015 13:46:19 GMT
I'm wearing my tin hat as I respond to what I have read in this thread. To be completely honest I'm in full agreement with the article as it stands. Our team now has a lot more class and as fans we need to show much more consideration and thought to the way we are perceived.
When I went to the recent match at Southampton game I sat among people who were supporting the same team as myself and during the ninety minutes I was sworn at, threatened and knocked about by inconsiderate people who would not sit down and were totally inconsiderate. Only the result salvaged a great weekend!
Throughout the game all I heard repeatedly chanted was "You're fu**ing shit"
On Saturday I watched a brilliant game played by two brave teams going hammer and tongue at each showing class and skill and what do we chant? "You're f**king sh**"
What a totally embarrassing chant that is Neanderthal at best! I know we are not that experienced at being superior and brilliant we all need to grow up and grow our reputation as a crowd of people with the humour and class to match our teams class.
Everton were brilliant on Saturday but we were better!
This post is not about being prudish and soft! It about being smarter and more intelligent in winning the chanting battle with the opposition.
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Post by alansuddick on Dec 30, 2015 13:49:04 GMT
Never read such an absolute crock of shite.did utd never sing he wears the club shop to tp.good piss take but hardly supporting your own team is it.its a personal attack.
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Post by spongebobflathead on Dec 30, 2015 13:49:56 GMT
Very very strange , he's seems to miss the point that home advantage and intimidation go hand in hand and undoubtably has an effect , what's the point of having home advantage if you don't make the most of it ?
To be honest he sounds a bit lemon !
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