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Post by thevoid on Dec 30, 2015 13:51:46 GMT
Football without tribalism would be nothing. What do they want, a nuclear family with facepaint clapping an opposition score like in cricket?
Football IS tribalism.
I noticed he uses the phrase 'modern football'. Says it all.
God help the little flower if he ever attended a match in Turkey or the Balkans.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Dec 30, 2015 13:53:05 GMT
I've asked him on Twitter why he's remotely arsed enough to write the article. Will let you know if he replies.
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Post by Rick Grimes on Dec 30, 2015 13:55:09 GMT
Good summary from ProudStokie in the comments, I particuarly like the badge of honour line. Opposition teams absolutely detest coming to the Brit and I wouldn't have it any other way.
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Post by hoekstramasterclass on Dec 30, 2015 13:55:53 GMT
What an absolute load of bollocks , the more hostile the better that's why teams don't like coming stoke , watched us play in split and besiktas an absolute honour to stand on those terraces afmotsphere was incredible at both we don't want to turn into happy clappy prawn sandwich shite
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2015 13:56:48 GMT
I don't think we do it enough. We've taken our eye off the ball a bit recently.
We need far more 'Danny Rose' sessions where we bully players off the pitch to the subs bench.
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Post by happychappy on Dec 30, 2015 13:57:44 GMT
I'm wearing my tin hat as I respond to what I have read in this thread. To be completely honest I'm in full agreement with the article as it stands. Our team now has a lot more class and as fans we need to show much more consideration and thought to the way we are perceived. When I went to the recent match at Southampton game I sat among people who were supporting the same team as myself and during the ninety minutes I was sworn at, threatened and knocked about by inconsiderate people who would not sit down and were totally inconsiderate. Only the result salvaged a great weekend! Throughout the game all I heard repeatedly chanted was "You're fu**ing shit" On Saturday I watched a brilliant game played by two brave teams going hammer and tongue at each showing class and skill and what do we chant? "You're f**king sh**" What a totally embarrassing chant that is Neanderthal at best! I know we are not that experienced at being superior and brilliant we all need to grow up and grow our reputation as a crowd of people with the humour and class to match our teams class. Everton were brilliant on Saturday but we were better! This post is not about being prudish and soft! It about being smarter and more intelligent in winning the chanting battle with the opposition. Think we definitely won the chanting battle again man u. That had nothing to do with the one chant you pointed out. Seeing you ridicule people for not sitting down during an away game I can see that your very much a precious flower. Perhaps knitting would be a better thing for you to concentrate your time?
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Post by Clayton Wood on Dec 30, 2015 13:59:10 GMT
I've asked him on Twitter why he's remotely arsed enough to write the article. Will let you know if he replies. Fills in holiday time before school next week
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Post by RAF on Dec 30, 2015 14:00:53 GMT
I'm wondering what this Everton supporting muppets views are of his own lot singing about gangsters spunking in Mrs Gerrards face? Jesus Christ its football not church.
Too many sanitised grounds these days. Fuck em!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2015 14:01:22 GMT
My Summary
one or two rather sad wierdos turn up with cardboard cut outs and we are all branded as the same ?
Total bollocks if you ask me
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Post by hoekstramasterclass on Dec 30, 2015 14:03:30 GMT
I don't think we do it enough. We've taking our eye off the ball a bit recently. We need far more 'Danny Rose' sessions where we bully players off the pitch to the subs bench. too right a few players have shit their selves and gone missing down the Brit and look when wenger didn't dare come out the dug out to try and get his team going that's what I call top quality support and influencing the game in our favour
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2015 14:03:31 GMT
Are we even sure it was a Stoke fan with that banner? There were shit fans all round the ground I'd imagine
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Post by Northy on Dec 30, 2015 14:05:32 GMT
He doesn't know what he's on about,it's his thoughts on the subject not reality, when we were bottomish of the fair play league owing to our fans chanting etc. Mark Hughes said he loved it and for us to carry on doing it.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Dec 30, 2015 14:07:07 GMT
I've asked him on Twitter why he's remotely arsed enough to write the article. Will let you know if he replies. Fills in holiday time before school next week By the sounds of it the nail has been hit on the head and he's just a bitter Everton fan.
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Post by Cast no shadow on Dec 30, 2015 14:07:23 GMT
I've read some articles in my time, that has to be the worst/strangest thing i've ever read, totally bizarre
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Post by Stokeontrent on Dec 30, 2015 14:09:55 GMT
I'm wearing my tin hat as I respond to what I have read in this thread. To be completely honest I'm in full agreement with the article as it stands. Our team now has a lot more class and as fans we need to show much more consideration and thought to the way we are perceived. When I went to the recent match at Southampton game I sat among people who were supporting the same team as myself and during the ninety minutes I was sworn at, threatened and knocked about by inconsiderate people who would not sit down and were totally inconsiderate. Only the result salvaged a great weekend! Throughout the game all I heard repeatedly chanted was "You're fu**ing shit" On Saturday I watched a brilliant game played by two brave teams going hammer and tongue at each showing class and skill and what do we chant? "You're f**king sh**" What a totally embarrassing chant that is Neanderthal at best! I know we are not that experienced at being superior and brilliant we all need to grow up and grow our reputation as a crowd of people with the humour and class to match our teams class. Everton were brilliant on Saturday but we were better! This post is not about being prudish and soft! It about being smarter and more intelligent in winning the chanting battle with the opposition. What a soft sod
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Post by partickpotter on Dec 30, 2015 14:15:46 GMT
I'm wearing my tin hat as I respond to what I have read in this thread. To be completely honest I'm in full agreement with the article as it stands. Our team now has a lot more class and as fans we need to show much more consideration and thought to the way we are perceived. When I went to the recent match at Southampton game I sat among people who were supporting the same team as myself and during the ninety minutes I was sworn at, threatened and knocked about by inconsiderate people who would not sit down and were totally inconsiderate. Only the result salvaged a great weekend! Throughout the game all I heard repeatedly chanted was "You're fu**ing shit" On Saturday I watched a brilliant game played by two brave teams going hammer and tongue at each showing class and skill and what do we chant? "You're f**king sh**" What a totally embarrassing chant that is Neanderthal at best! I know we are not that experienced at being superior and brilliant we all need to grow up and grow our reputation as a crowd of people with the humour and class to match our teams class. Everton were brilliant on Saturday but we were better! This post is not about being prudish and soft! It about being smarter and more intelligent in winning the chanting battle with the opposition. Think you should chill a bit - particularly about the sitting down. When in Rome and all that. I'm with you on the "fucking shit" chant. There's a time and place. Monday at Goodison was wrong - because, basically, they weren't fucking shite! Now if we'd been 2 or 3 up, fair enough. I did like the "If Stones can play for England, so can I" chant. The only thing missing was a profanity or two. Still, you can't have everything!
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Post by march4 on Dec 30, 2015 14:18:41 GMT
I'm wearing my tin hat as I respond to what I have read in this thread. To be completely honest I'm in full agreement with the article as it stands. Our team now has a lot more class and as fans we need to show much more consideration and thought to the way we are perceived. When I went to the recent match at Southampton game I sat among people who were supporting the same team as myself and during the ninety minutes I was sworn at, threatened and knocked about by inconsiderate people who would not sit down and were totally inconsiderate. Only the result salvaged a great weekend! Throughout the game all I heard repeatedly chanted was "You're fu**ing shit" On Saturday I watched a brilliant game played by two brave teams going hammer and tongue at each showing class and skill and what do we chant? "You're f**king sh**" What a totally embarrassing chant that is Neanderthal at best! I know we are not that experienced at being superior and brilliant we all need to grow up and grow our reputation as a crowd of people with the humour and class to match our teams class. Everton were brilliant on Saturday but we were better! This post is not about being prudish and soft! It about being smarter and more intelligent in winning the chanting battle with the opposition. Think you should chill a bit - particularly about the sitting down. When in Rome and all that. I'm with you on the "fucking shit" chant. There's a time and place. Monday at Goodison was wrong - because, basically, they weren't fucking shite! Now if we'd been 2 or 3 up, fair enough. I did like the "If Stones can play for England, so can I" chant. The only thing missing was a profanity or two. Still, you can't have everything! But Everton are a poor team with a shocking manager. Take away Lukaku and you have nothing. His goals have earned them 7pts this season. Take those away and they are in relegation trouble level on points with Swansea.
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Post by butlerstbob on Dec 30, 2015 14:21:24 GMT
Two weeks ago every bloody journo was taking the piss out of Van Gaal in their shitty little rags, 1 stokie has a bit of a laugh and he takes a pop at us! He has got some nerve!
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Post by ohbottom on Dec 30, 2015 14:22:20 GMT
Hard to believe the same bloke wrote this report of the same match... link
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Post by foxysgloves on Dec 30, 2015 14:24:54 GMT
I got three paragraphs in before realising he's the very worst of football journalists.....the ones who aren't football fans first.
He writes about the game as if its exactly that.....a game.....not a way of life that you can't pick, choose or adapt.
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Post by Olgrligm on Dec 30, 2015 14:29:06 GMT
You could tell that the article was rubbish when it claimed that the Man Utd supporters supported their team. The abject silence from the away end was only ever punctuated by groans when their team passed backwards.
As for the rest of it, typical hand wringing, mincing nonsense from the most hand wringing, mincing newspaper on the planet.
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Post by Stretfordpotterer on Dec 30, 2015 14:30:21 GMT
This is very true, but made me chuckle!! chadders79 7m ago Erms, it's Man United, not some cute little puppy. When they're down, you bloody well kick them and keep them down as long as you possibly can....because in the end, the Empire always builds another fucking death star. My pleasure.
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Post by silverdollar on Dec 30, 2015 15:00:30 GMT
I'm wearing my tin hat as I respond to what I have read in this thread. To be completely honest I'm in full agreement with the article as it stands. Our team now has a lot more class and as fans we need to show much more consideration and thought to the way we are perceived. When I went to the recent match at Southampton game I sat among people who were supporting the same team as myself and during the ninety minutes I was sworn at, threatened and knocked about by inconsiderate people who would not sit down and were totally inconsiderate. Only the result salvaged a great weekend! Throughout the game all I heard repeatedly chanted was "You're fu**ing shit" On Saturday I watched a brilliant game played by two brave teams going hammer and tongue at each showing class and skill and what do we chant? "You're f**king sh**" What a totally embarrassing chant that is Neanderthal at best! I know we are not that experienced at being superior and brilliant we all need to grow up and grow our reputation as a crowd of people with the humour and class to match our teams class. Everton were brilliant on Saturday but we were better! This post is not about being prudish and soft! It about being smarter and more intelligent in winning the chanting battle with the opposition. Think we definitely won the chanting battle again man u. That had nothing to do with the one chant you pointed out. Seeing you ridicule people for not sitting down during an away game I can see that your very much a precious flower. Perhaps knitting would be a better thing for you to concentrate your time? Obviously one of the selfish, ignorant cretins I referred to!
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Post by mrcoke on Dec 30, 2015 15:08:53 GMT
When I saw the article earlier today, I thought I'd post something, then decided it was such crap it didn't warrant the extra circulation. Now I see there are 2 pages of comments which I totally concur with. Some journalists wake up in the morning and must think what shall I write/invent today?
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Post by Paul Spencer on Dec 30, 2015 15:09:19 GMT
I've asked him on Twitter why he's remotely arsed enough to write the article. Will let you know if he replies.
Rich ask him if he hasn't noticed that EVERY club, big or small sing "Getting sacked in the morning", if there's even the remotest chance that they will be.
Oh and ask him about these pictures too mate:
EVERTON FANS TAUNTING LAST MANU MANAGER:
MAN CITEH FANS TAUNTING LAST MANU MANAGER:
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Post by Dallas Cowboy on Dec 30, 2015 15:11:33 GMT
Written from the comfort of his armchair in his swish London office whilst listening to the ramblings of Dwight Yorke on his radio. Numpty. It is a blog not a regular article. Is the writer a journalist? I'm never quite sure why the national newspapers publish blogs on their main websites. If they want to publish blogs they'd be better having a separate blogging website so as not to confuse people into assuming that the writers are regular journalists. Blogs in a newspaper context are not so very different from the letters pages. Clicking on the author's name reveals the following: "Paul Wilson is the Observer's football correspondent. He has previously worked for the Guardian and the Independent and local newspapers in the north of England, where he still lives, the only Evertonian in a family of Liverpool and Wigan Athletic supporters." It always pays to do a bit of research before posting bollocks!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2015 15:13:44 GMT
Manchester United being "knocked of their fucking perch". It would be a news story if a set of opposition fans didn't revel in that, surely?
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Post by stantheman on Dec 30, 2015 15:14:41 GMT
Wow, one bloke (or kid) makes a sign about a manager of another team, and a Guardian reporter writes a piece about it. Slow news day?
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Post by Paul Spencer on Dec 30, 2015 15:19:34 GMT
You could tell that the article was rubbish when it claimed that the Man Utd supporters supported their team. The abject silence from the away end was only ever punctuated by groans when their team passed backwards. As for the rest of it, typical hand wringing, mincing nonsense from the most hand wringing, mincing newspaper on the planet.
Yeah they support their team to such a degree that they turn up at Anfield and unfurl banners, when Man U aren't even playing at Anfield!
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Post by reddipotter on Dec 30, 2015 15:20:26 GMT
I had two thoughts. Firstly that the Man U fans were anything but noisy, especially in the first half. And secondly, who was it that had spent weeks building up to this match as probably Van Gaal's make or break game? Oh, yes, the media.
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