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Post by chrisparker on Dec 20, 2015 0:05:12 GMT
... fighting till the very end with the fans singing their hearts out. No more of the "roll over & give up" crap we witnessed against Watford. This was our chance to go level on points with Palace but we didn't take it. Not to worry, we still have 22 games to play.
But 2 complaints I had today -
1) Shaqiri has to help Glenn Johnson more when we're defending. I can't recall just how many times Johnson was left 1v1 against Bolasie.
2) We desperately need a proper goal-scorer & a box to box midfielder. The former for obvious reasons & the latter for reasons which were made obvious today. In the 2nd half, especially after Whelan came off, the gap between our attackers & defenders was shocking. They were literally separated by a good 30-40 yards. In fact this was the exact same problem we experienced against Watford. When the opposition defends deep, our attackers keep pushing forward whilst our defenders, who're not gifted with a lot of pace, stay back & this leaves a huge void in the centre of the field, which is lethal against teams who stay back & hit us on the counter. We need a fast & energetic box-to-box player who can connect our attack & defence.
Other than that, I'm quite satisfied with our performance today. Next game is against a mediocre United team who can score goals. Stick with the false 9 for this game (and the game against Everton) & drop it against teams like Palace, Wes Brom & Watford.
And trust Sparky, he always finds the right balance.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 20, 2015 10:56:37 GMT
I thought the reaction of the crowd was excellent at the end. Applauded the team off as if we'd won
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Post by nonameface on Dec 20, 2015 11:20:59 GMT
Even when we lose we are looking a good team now, that's a massive step forward. I hope we see Van Ginkel start to play well because his selection over diouf, Walters and Adam does not appear justified at the moment.
These losses are possibly a good thing so the players don't get carried away and start believing their present hype before achieving anything.
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Post by fca47 on Dec 20, 2015 12:57:14 GMT
Wingers have got to shoot more and be more direct, if we are not going to play a centre forward. It's ok getting past your fullback but when there's no one in the box it's pointless centring ,we have to decide which way we are playing, I think we are caught between two stools, we have wingers who centre but we have no centre forward , but don't really take defenders on and shoot, like Bolasie. He didn't really come off yesterday but gave Johnson a torrid time. You can see what being more direct does for you, with a team like Leicester getting loads of penalties because they go into the box at pace, we are forever checking back.We didn't play badly but not taking our chances is costing us big time.
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Post by bathstoke on Dec 20, 2015 13:28:09 GMT
These losses are possibly a good thing so the players don't get carried away and start believing their present hype before achieving anything. That's a romantic notion |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Dec 20, 2015 17:43:28 GMT
It's a croc of shit not a romantic notion we need 40
Points and quick . Good news is Ryan is saying the same 40 is our first target
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Post by doitforever on Dec 20, 2015 17:50:39 GMT
Would that be the gravity croc of shit?
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 20, 2015 17:51:09 GMT
It's a croc of shit not a romantic notion we need 40 Points and quick . Good news is Ryan is saying the same 40 is our first target The interview I heard made no mention of 40 points. Ryan even said anything less than a top 10 finish with the players we have would be a failure. Those voices in your head must be loud! |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Dec 20, 2015 17:59:35 GMT
Post the man city / Southampton game he said first job get to 40 points .
But Dunna worry he and I know the score just focus on that bet
We will finish above Leicester you must admit it's looking pretty stupid now .
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Post by WoodbineWright2@ on Dec 20, 2015 17:59:45 GMT
It's a croc of shit not a romantic notion we need 40 Points and quick . Good news is Ryan is saying the same 40 is our first target Are you Tony Pulis ? Bollocks 40 points. We want 55 points and another record season. And Ryan never once said a word about 40 points either. |
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Post by Fred Merger on Dec 20, 2015 18:00:24 GMT
It's a croc of shit not a romantic notion we need 40 Points and quick . Good news is Ryan is saying the same 40 is our first target Crikey,chill out it's Christmas! |
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Dec 20, 2015 18:18:01 GMT
It's a croc of shit not a romantic notion we need 40 Points and quick . Good news is Ryan is saying the same 40 is our first target You're not still banging on about this "We're in a relegation scrap" shit are you? Considering we're such a fucking shit team (In your mind) it's staggering that we're 8pts clear of the relegation zone... To give that some context we're 6pts off the Champions League! |
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Post by Davef on Dec 20, 2015 18:19:32 GMT
Post the man city / Southampton game he said first job get to 40 points . But Dunna worry he and I know the score just focus on that bet We will finish above Leicester you must admit it's looking pretty stupid now . Got a link to that interview? |
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Post by Pugsley on Dec 20, 2015 18:23:47 GMT
Play the best side in league off the park and win - player/manager insist 40 points priority.
Play a bunch of hoofers and lose - player/manager insist we're aiming for the top 10.
It's called managing expectation and is textbook modern day PL football speak.
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Post by heisenberg88 on Dec 20, 2015 18:26:45 GMT
Play the best side in league off the park and win - player/manager insist 40 points priority. Play a bunch of hoofers and lose - player/manager insist we're aiming for the top 10. It's called managing expectation and is textbook modern day PL football speak. Your knowledge is wasted on this board. |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Dec 20, 2015 18:27:41 GMT
Yes I keep all the interviews on sky and MOD don't you ?
Course I haven't got a link but if your that bothered search it out
MOD I think with Gary L he said
Feet on the ground get to 40 points it's a perfectly sensible approach .
Someone round here needs to Keep their feet on the ground.
60 points , 4th , Pato , blah blah .
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2015 18:35:27 GMT
Soggy biscuit, you give me a headache reading your dribble.
Keep away from sharp objects over Christmas.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 20, 2015 18:37:59 GMT
Post the man city / Southampton game he said first job get to 40 points . But Dunna worry he and I know the score just focus on that bet We will finish above Leicester you must admit it's looking pretty stupid now . You should know about looking pretty stupid. It was so stupid you were scared to take the bet. I also bracketed west ham, crystal palace and Southampton in with Leicester so in the context of the shit you were posting at the time, it doesn't look stupid at all. |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Dec 20, 2015 18:44:41 GMT
Jonno
Your backtracking and its transparent your very good at giving it when your optimism is justified just accept with a bit of dignity you look off the pace on this one as we slip into the bottom half and Leicester pull away at the top .
Your view that we have Improved and they are coming back to us is blatantly wrong we all get some wrong I should know .
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 20, 2015 18:50:50 GMT
Jonno Your backtracking and its transparent your very good at giving it when your optimism is justified just accept with a bit of dignity you look off the pace on this one as we slip into the bottom half and Leicester pull away at the top . Your view that we have Improved and they are coming back to us is blatantly wrong we all get some wrong I should know . No backtracking at all. I felt we would catch and pass Leicester. That seems very unlikely now and I'm pleased they are continuing their run. I hope they continue it all season long and go on to win the league. Still doesn't alter the fact that you wouldn't take the bet, just like last season when it was, according to you, arrogant to say we'd reverse early season disappointments v villa, Leicester and qpr. |
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Post by bmstoke on Dec 20, 2015 18:52:15 GMT
Jonno Your backtracking and its transparent your very good at giving it when your optimism is justified just accept with a bit of dignity you look off the pace on this one as we slip into the bottom half and Leicester pull away at the top . Your view that we have Improved and they are coming back to us is blatantly wrong we all get some wrong I should know . You're Thick twat. |
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Post by Davef on Dec 20, 2015 19:04:49 GMT
Post the man city / Southampton game he said first job get to 40 points . But Dunna worry he and I know the score just focus on that bet We will finish above Leicester you must admit it's looking pretty stupid now . Let me help you out. This is the Internet. If you search for things you can usually find them quite easily. Ryan Shawcross was interviewed after the Southampton game by Sky. He didn't mention a target of 40 points once. He wasn't interviewed after Man City. |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Dec 20, 2015 19:15:53 GMT
I don't make things up he said it in context but he said
First target 40 points
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Post by WoodbineWright2@ on Dec 20, 2015 19:23:21 GMT
I don't make things up he said it in context but he said First target 40 points You must hear all sorts of strange sounds and voices in your head, Benji. I'm not going to mess about here. We haven't been a "40 points first" type of club for a few years now and I can't recall any Stoke players saying it recently or since Hughes arrived. It's all about records and high level targets these days. |
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Post by Davef on Dec 20, 2015 19:25:09 GMT
I don't make things up he said it in context but he said First target 40 points You're making this up though aren't you? |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Dec 20, 2015 19:27:24 GMT
Dave let me help you
Google Ryan shawcross interview after stoke beat Chelsea In the league broadcast on sky with redknapp and chamberlain as it's locked off for copy
Watch the whole thing and then send it to Jonno then eat my shit
I quote
"First thing is to get to that magic 40 points ."
The captain has his feet firmly on the grond. And rightly so next time our accuse me of making stuff up think again because you look totally fucking stupid now as well as outclassed In debate .
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Post by senojbor on Dec 20, 2015 19:29:51 GMT
I'm pretty sure I heard him say it a few years ago.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Dec 20, 2015 19:34:06 GMT
He said it after the Chelsea game on global TV there for all to see" and In some cases suck on " and rightly so
Given our awful home form .
But
Thanks for the back up .
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Post by Davef on Dec 20, 2015 19:36:10 GMT
Dave let me help you Google Ryan shawcross interview after stoke beat Chelsea In the league broadcast on sky with redknapp and chamberlain as it's locked off for copy Watch the whole thing and then send it to Jonno then eat my shit I quote "First thing is to get to that magic 40 points ." The captain has his feet firmly on the grond. And rightly so next time our accuse me of making stuff up think again because you look totally fucking stupid now as well as outclassed In debate . Well done. You managed to supply a link. Not post-Southampton or Man City but I'll give it to you. He also said that the team want to break last season's points tally. Your opinion is that the team are going to struggle to hit 40 points. The manager and captain's target is to smash it. |
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Post by senojbor on Dec 20, 2015 19:43:24 GMT
One things for sure we have played some great football in both our last two home games. Yesterday didn't fall for us but Palace were damn lucky.
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