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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 30, 2017 22:07:23 GMT
He is but he's another box to boxer. We don't really need him. He can play the Whelan role. Which is wasting him. When he's at his best he's getting around the pitch, he's passing, moving, tackling and shooting. Ie playing a box to box role. I'd love him here but we'd need to get rid of 2 of the 5 mentioned above for it to make sense. Otherwise it's another square peg in a round hole.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2017 22:07:51 GMT
Yeah but bringing what to the team that we do not have ? Replace who ? We have so many players who play there and do a fine job we do not need him.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 30, 2017 22:08:47 GMT
Yeah but bringing what to the team that we do not have ? Replace who ? We have so many players who play there and do a fine job we do not need him. I don't agree with that. I'd have him in there over all of the other box to boxers we have easily.
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Jan 30, 2017 22:10:21 GMT
He is but he's another box to boxer. We don't really need him. I think he can definitely play the more disciplined role as well as the box-to-box role. If we are going to continue with Allen in the number 10 role, Delph as a box to box option could work really well.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2017 22:11:15 GMT
Yeah but bringing what to the team that we do not have ? Replace who ? We have so many players who play there and do a fine job we do not need him. I don't agree with that. I'd have him in there over all of the other box to boxers we have easily. He's that good hey what has he done to earn that plaudit Bayern ? Big fish in a shit Villa side then what ?
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Post by yamyampotter on Jan 30, 2017 22:11:32 GMT
If Delph were to sign for Stoke he would come in as the best Centre Mid at the club. Can tackle and has aggression to his game, pick a pass. Single handily kept Villa up and took them to an FA Cup final (with Benteke.)
When fit and playing gets in the England squad.
What's not to like?
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Jan 30, 2017 22:12:31 GMT
Just not what we need is he, he's another Imbula/Allen.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 30, 2017 22:13:15 GMT
I don't agree with that. I'd have him in there over all of the other box to boxers we have easily. He's that good hey what has he done to earn that plaudit Bayern ? Big fish in a shit Villa side then what ? He's held his own at Man City and done well when played for England. He was really good for Villa and he'd be that big fish again. I think he's exactly what we need as the second midfielder, he combines what Cameron can do with the ability to actually kick a football. He's a bloody good player but no DM.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 30, 2017 22:13:58 GMT
If Delph were to sign for Stoke he would come in as the best Centre Mid at the club. Can tackle and has aggression to his game, pick a pass. Single handily kept Villa up and took them to an FA Cup final (with Benteke.) When fit and playing gets in the England squad. What's not to like? Agreed. But we have 5 box to box midfielders at the club already......
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jan 30, 2017 22:15:52 GMT
Signing Allen has marked the end of Bojan. signing Delph would mark the end of Imbula.. That's an expensive transfer strategy.
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Post by jeycov on Jan 30, 2017 22:16:16 GMT
Word of warning - he was injured on England duty!
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Post by yamyampotter on Jan 30, 2017 22:16:31 GMT
If Delph were to sign for Stoke he would come in as the best Centre Mid at the club. Can tackle and has aggression to his game, pick a pass. Single handily kept Villa up and took them to an FA Cup final (with Benteke.) When fit and playing gets in the England squad. What's not to like? Agreed. But we have 5 box to box midfielders at the club already...... Yes, would be bloated and need to loose 1 or 2. If Delph doesn't improve us, what band of player to people believe we should be looking at? Henderson? Kroos? Busquets? Just curious.
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Post by liamo on Jan 30, 2017 22:16:38 GMT
Just not what we need is he, he's another Imbula/Allen. What are Imbula and Allen though? They're not box to box players and Delph is, Allen has replaced Bojan (sorry to bring it up and remind you) Delph coming would pretty much freeze Imbula out i imagine
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Post by kustokie on Jan 30, 2017 22:19:44 GMT
He HAS BEEN a very good player in the past; however, I don't believe he's played much this season (if at all) since getting injured in the Summer. In January, you don't need a project. You need a player that can literally hit the ground running and contribute. Otherwise they're just sucking oxygen out of the system. Man City are presumably trying to send him out on loan to a lesser club to see if he's still got it (pretty much like we sent Bojan down to Mainz). We don't need to serve as a testing ground for a them, IMO. Other may disagree (you can be sure of that!).
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 30, 2017 22:20:30 GMT
Agreed. But we have 5 box to box midfielders at the club already...... Yes, would be bloated and need to loose 1 or 2. If Delph doesn't improve us, what band of player to people believe we should be looking at? Henderson? Kroos? Busquets? Just curious. He's always been a bit of a laughing stock on here I wouldn't worry too much about it! I would love him here on one hand but on the other I would say he is the last sort of player we should be signing. I'd find it odd unless one of the left in the next 24 hrs and was followed by another one in the summer. And if he's the DM then I think Hughes is mad.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Jan 30, 2017 22:20:47 GMT
Just not what we need is he, he's another Imbula/Allen. What are Imbula and Allen though? They're not box to box players and Delph is, Allen has replaced Bojan (sorry to bring it up and remind you) Delph coming would pretty much freeze Imbula out i imagine I've got all three of them down as box to boxers based on what I've seen of them in person. When you think of defensive midfielder you don't think of Fabian Delph do you? Good player but not what we need, we need a destroyer.
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Post by kustokie on Jan 30, 2017 22:21:10 GMT
Agreed. But we have 5 box to box midfielders at the club already...... Yes, would be bloated and need to loose 1 or 2. If Delph doesn't improve us, what band of player to people believe we should be looking at? Henderson? Kroos? Busquets? Just curious. Those three on loan in January? No chance.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 30, 2017 22:21:49 GMT
Just not what we need is he, he's another Imbula/Allen. What are Imbula and Allen though? They're not box to box players and Delph is, Allen has replaced Bojan (sorry to bring it up and remind you) Delph coming would pretty much freeze Imbula out i imagine Allen is a box to box midfielder being played massively out of position and now looking like a player who is being played out of position.
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Post by kustokie on Jan 30, 2017 22:23:02 GMT
Just not what we need is he, he's another Imbula/Allen. What are Imbula and Allen though? They're not box to box players and Delph is, Allen has replaced Bojan (sorry to bring it up and remind you) Delph coming would pretty much freeze Imbula out i imagine I suspect Hughes has written Imbula off: he's just trying to figure out how to save face and get some of the Coates' money back.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Jan 30, 2017 22:25:12 GMT
Good player and would love him here. But we'd need to sell two of Adam, Afellay, Cameron, Allen or Imbula to balance the squad. The first two, then, seeing as you rate neither. That means another gawd knows how many years with Whelan and Cameron, though. And you only rate one of them. For what it's worth, I'd have Delph here in a heartbeat. I think he's quality.
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Post by RichJonesy on Jan 30, 2017 22:34:23 GMT
If Delph were to sign for Stoke he would come in as the best Centre Mid at the club. Can tackle and has aggression to his game, pick a pass. Single handily kept Villa up and took them to an FA Cup final (with Benteke.) When fit and playing gets in the England squad. What's not to like? So he didn't do it single handedly?
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Post by toppercorner on Jan 30, 2017 22:35:38 GMT
so just supposing we do get him, and Allen plays the number 10, that means Afellay doesn't play and we have no one who can keep the ball and create for our brand new, reliant on through balls centre forward/?
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 30, 2017 22:35:44 GMT
I reckon if Delph came in Imbula would be off somewhere abroad on loan
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 30, 2017 22:36:40 GMT
Good player and would love him here. But we'd need to sell two of Adam, Afellay, Cameron, Allen or Imbula to balance the squad. The first two, then, seeing as you rate neither. That means another gawd knows how many years with Whelan and Cameron, though. And you only rate one of them. For what it's worth, I'd have Delph here in a heartbeat. I think he's quality. I don't rate any of the five tbh. Imbula has potential, the rest I'd sell instantly and Delph is 10 times the player of them all. But as we have them 5 and they play the same position we just don't need him. The squad is unbalanced enough as it is.
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Post by Gifton on Jan 30, 2017 22:39:55 GMT
The first two, then, seeing as you rate neither. That means another gawd knows how many years with Whelan and Cameron, though. And you only rate one of them. For what it's worth, I'd have Delph here in a heartbeat. I think he's quality. I don't rate any of the five tbh. Imbula has potential, the rest I'd sell instantly and Delph is 10 times the player of them all. But as we have them 5 and they play the same position we just don't need him. The squad is unbalanced enough as it is. You'd sell Joe Allen instantly??
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Post by padders01 on Jan 30, 2017 22:41:19 GMT
This rumour has come from John Percy tweeting the below
looking for defensive cover - and desperately hoping for a call from Man City 😉
Absolutely no clue that we are in for Delph at all
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Post by djduncanjames on Jan 30, 2017 22:41:38 GMT
Good player and would love him here. But we'd need to sell two of Adam, Afellay, Cameron, Allen or Imbula to balance the squad. What about Ireland?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 30, 2017 22:42:47 GMT
I don't rate any of the five tbh. Imbula has potential, the rest I'd sell instantly and Delph is 10 times the player of them all. But as we have them 5 and they play the same position we just don't need him. The squad is unbalanced enough as it is. You'd sell Joe Allen instantly?? In a heartbeat. He's a rich mans Dean Whitehead. His signing has done more harm than good.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 30, 2017 22:43:38 GMT
Good player and would love him here. But we'd need to sell two of Adam, Afellay, Cameron, Allen or Imbula to balance the squad. What about Ireland? I forgot we had him and he's the only attacking midfielder we have and hopefully we'll release him in the summer.
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Post by kustokie on Jan 30, 2017 22:44:27 GMT
The first two, then, seeing as you rate neither. That means another gawd knows how many years with Whelan and Cameron, though. And you only rate one of them. For what it's worth, I'd have Delph here in a heartbeat. I think he's quality. I don't rate any of the five tbh. Imbula has potential, the rest I'd sell instantly and Delph is 10 times the player of them all. But as we have them 5 and they play the same position we just don't need him. The squad is unbalanced enough as it is. I agree. This would be more of the same: throw mud at the wall and see how much sticks. I understand professional football is all about short-term objectives. However, there's no reason to panic. On the one hand, a point a game for the rest of the season should be more than enough to avoid relegation, and on the other hand qualifying for Europe is a big stretch. They should keep their powder dry, build a plan now for next season and try to keep the fans entertained. Pretty straightforward (NOT!)
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