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Post by cheekymatt71 on Oct 22, 2015 15:30:19 GMT
From about 1985 to 2005 a period of twenty years we must have averaged 15000-18000 in the lower reaches. No we didn't. During that period we averaged over 15,000 four times (The highest of those being 16,579) In that same period we averaged LESS than 10,000 on four occassions. Our average was around 12,000 over that 20 years. Sunderland were averaging 18,000 in the nineties when they were in the 2nd division. How come they have grown that to 40k now? It takes ambition and a bigger stadium at the very least I really don't know why you keep comparing us to Sunderland, as much as it pains us to say it they're a bigger club than us. During that same period they averaged less than 10,000 zero times. Less than 15,000 twice (They were both late 80's when gates were down everywhere) Over 20,000 ten times. Historically we've had those three averages over 30,000. Sunderland have had averages over 30,000 thirty-seven times! wow you are getting a bit too detailed. Maybe we havent had many seasons over 30,000 because our capacity is 27,500? As someone once said: "If you build it they will come" We need to get used to the fact we are becoming a globally recognised sports team. We are already in the top 30 richest football clubs so we should get a stadium that represents us correctly. If we need to lower prices for a couple of years to get new people interested and the crowds full then so be it. Some of them will be our fans for life.
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Oct 22, 2015 15:39:05 GMT
wow you are getting a bit too detailed. You mean I'm using facts to back up my argument Maybe we havent had many seasons over 30,000 because our capacity is 27,500? As someone once said: "If you build it they will come" If that's the case why stop at 40,000? Lets build a stadium that holds 95,000 & have the biggest ground in the country. We need to get used to the fact we are becoming a globally recognised sports team. We are already in the top 30 richest football clubs so we should get a stadium that represents us correctly. If we need to lower prices for a couple of years to get new people interested and the crowds full then so be it. Some of them will be our fans for life. We'd all love lower prices (Baring some nutjob on the so-called supporters council who wanted an increase!) But it doesn't look like it's going to happen so it's void argument. .... And just to say again, I agree we should expand the stadium, I just think that 40,000 is too big a leap & we wouldn't fill it.
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Post by Dallas Cowboy on Oct 22, 2015 15:50:24 GMT
Stoke City Football Club Fans by Country Local Fans Percentage Of Fan Base United Kingdom 71 882 12.2 % Thailand 33 095 5.6 % Indonesia 28 675 4.9 % Egypt 26 170 4.4 % Brazil 25 809 4.4 % Vietnam 23 087 3.9 % Algeria 21 116 3.6 % India 20 283 3.4 % Morocco 16 136 2.7 % Malaysia 14 400 2.4 % United States 11 380 1.9 % Mexico 11 175 1.9 % Turkey 10 987 1.9 % Italy 10 067 1.7 % Tunisia 8 492 1.4 % Bangladesh 8 423 1.4 % Nigeria 8 133 1.4 % Argentina 7 545 1.3 % Pakistan 7 373 1.3 % Poland 7 322 1.2 % Myanmar 7 109 1.2 % France 6 888 1.2 % Ghana 6 842 1.2 % Iraq 6 786 1.2 % Germany 6 096 1.0 % Colombia 5 847 1.0 % Serbia 5 383 0.9 % Cambodia 5 131 0.9 % Portugal 4 990 0.8 % Senegal 4 794 0.8 % Australia 4 696 0.8 % Bosnia and Herzegovina 4 667 0.8 % Tanzania 4 637 0.8 % Austria 4 516 0.8 % Romania 4 375 0.7 % Nepal 4 361 0.7 % Greece 4 326 0.7 % Peru 4 219 0.7 % Spain 4 209 0.7 % Uganda 3 802 0.6 % Kenya 3 694 0.6 % Ireland 3 444 0.6 % Albania 3 259 0.6 % South Africa 3 009 0.5 % Ethiopia 2 977 0.5 % Other and not yet targeted Countries 97 358 16.5 % Where's bleedin' China? I know there are at least two of us here.
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Post by bringmesunshine on Oct 22, 2015 15:52:04 GMT
As Del would say
"He who dares wins !"
Edit
That comment was for The Drunken Communist
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Post by skemstokie on Oct 22, 2015 15:59:26 GMT
I am pretty sure that i am not alone in being a "supporter" who long`s for the chance to go to games but for various reason`s a season ticket is not a option but if seats together existed and could be bought on the day of the game i am sure they would sell and at a higher price than season ticket price so any empty seat`s would be offset by higher revenue received from these sales . People need to be given the chance to get the habit of going to the match and get hooked by the atmosphere you sell very few season tickets to people who have not got "The Bug" by attending matches.
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Post by penkvillepotter on Oct 22, 2015 16:10:58 GMT
Another sell out for the Watford game over a week before the game, not sure what's stopping the club filling on the corner now to be fair? Aye, went to get my lad a ticket yesterday for Watford. Absolutely gobsmacked to find it's sold out. Summats happening. Anyway he's no.56 on the waiting list. A fucking waiting list for Watford, the world has gone mad I tell ya. Bloody hell, no 56 on the waiting list worked, the Ticket Office have just rang me and lo and behold, the fruit of my loins has a ticket for Saturday.
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Post by foster on Oct 22, 2015 21:26:35 GMT
Stoke City Football Club Fans by Country Local Fans Percentage Of Fan Base United Kingdom 71 882 12.2 % Thailand 33 095 5.6 % Indonesia 28 675 4.9 % Egypt 26 170 4.4 % Brazil 25 809 4.4 % Vietnam 23 087 3.9 % Algeria 21 116 3.6 % India 20 283 3.4 % Morocco 16 136 2.7 % Malaysia 14 400 2.4 % United States 11 380 1.9 % Mexico 11 175 1.9 % Turkey 10 987 1.9 % Italy 10 067 1.7 % Tunisia 8 492 1.4 % Bangladesh 8 423 1.4 % Nigeria 8 133 1.4 % Argentina 7 545 1.3 % Pakistan 7 373 1.3 % Poland 7 322 1.2 % Myanmar 7 109 1.2 % France 6 888 1.2 % Ghana 6 842 1.2 % Iraq 6 786 1.2 % Germany 6 096 1.0 % Colombia 5 847 1.0 % Serbia 5 383 0.9 % Cambodia 5 131 0.9 % Portugal 4 990 0.8 % Senegal 4 794 0.8 % Australia 4 696 0.8 % Bosnia and Herzegovina 4 667 0.8 % Tanzania 4 637 0.8 % Austria 4 516 0.8 % Romania 4 375 0.7 % Nepal 4 361 0.7 % Greece 4 326 0.7 % Peru 4 219 0.7 % Spain 4 209 0.7 % Uganda 3 802 0.6 % Kenya 3 694 0.6 % Ireland 3 444 0.6 % Albania 3 259 0.6 % South Africa 3 009 0.5 % Ethiopia 2 977 0.5 % Other and not yet targeted Countries 97 358 16.5 % Where's bleedin' China? I know there are at least two of us here. At least 20 in Belgium mate. All those chinese support Man United don't they?
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Post by foster on Oct 22, 2015 21:28:12 GMT
As Del would say "He who dares wins !" Edit That comment was for The Drunken Communist If you book them they will come. Wayne World 2.
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Post by samba :) on Oct 22, 2015 22:04:52 GMT
Gloryhunterism worse than any other thing
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Oct 22, 2015 22:08:22 GMT
As Del would say "He who dares wins !" Edit That comment was for The Drunken Communist If you book them they will come. Wayne World 2. Wasn't that a quote from that famous Stokie: Kevin Costner. Wunna dunner?
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Post by elystokie on Oct 22, 2015 22:41:53 GMT
Gloryhunterism worse than any other thing Realistically how else does a club increase its fanbase other than with glory hunters? If we get them following us then it means we must be doing something right surely? I think different cultures view following clubs very much differently than ourselves, my barber is Iranian and was quite casual when describing how he changed from Arsenal to Man City, no big deal at all to him. He'll be a Stokie before long... Bless em all, bless em all, the long and the short and the tall....
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 22, 2015 23:24:02 GMT
The lack of planning in not extending the Stadium has been staggeringly unambitious. We're getting bigger crowds again now because of better football and better players but (and for fucks sake it's not a Pulis row) but we filled the stadium in 2008. The 21 year old skint student then is 28 and potentially thinking about his kids first game. The wide eyed 11 year old with his first season ticket that season is nearly 18 and close to making his own economic choices. The street have been awash with Stoke strips for years and years. Scholes moaned about us being an ageing supporter base years ago but the club has done little to capitalise on attracting young fans. Build the seats, lower matchday prices, do special offers, student offers, low paid/services deals. We put 10K on the average crowd in a season, we should have done it straight after the cup final season but we didn't and I'm sure there was reticence as the Pulis era fizzled out but not to do it now really does question the long term motives of those involved.
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Post by dutchstokie on Oct 23, 2015 6:21:08 GMT
Where's bleedin' China? I know there are at least two of us here. At least 20 in Belgium mate. All those chinese support Man United don't they? And I know of half a dozen at least here in NL !!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2015 6:38:27 GMT
Stoke City Football Club Fans by Country Local Fans Percentage Of Fan Base United Kingdom 71 882 12.2 % Thailand 33 095 5.6 % Indonesia 28 675 4.9 % Egypt 26 170 4.4 % Brazil 25 809 4.4 % Vietnam 23 087 3.9 % Algeria 21 116 3.6 % India 20 283 3.4 % Morocco 16 136 2.7 % Malaysia 14 400 2.4 % United States 11 380 1.9 % Mexico 11 175 1.9 % Turkey 10 987 1.9 % Italy 10 067 1.7 % Tunisia 8 492 1.4 % Bangladesh 8 423 1.4 % Nigeria 8 133 1.4 % Argentina 7 545 1.3 % Pakistan 7 373 1.3 % Poland 7 322 1.2 % Myanmar 7 109 1.2 % France 6 888 1.2 % Ghana 6 842 1.2 % Iraq 6 786 1.2 % Germany 6 096 1.0 % Colombia 5 847 1.0 % Serbia 5 383 0.9 % Cambodia 5 131 0.9 % Portugal 4 990 0.8 % Senegal 4 794 0.8 % Australia 4 696 0.8 % Bosnia and Herzegovina 4 667 0.8 % Tanzania 4 637 0.8 % Austria 4 516 0.8 % Romania 4 375 0.7 % Nepal 4 361 0.7 % Greece 4 326 0.7 % Peru 4 219 0.7 % Spain 4 209 0.7 % Uganda 3 802 0.6 % Kenya 3 694 0.6 % Ireland 3 444 0.6 % Albania 3 259 0.6 % South Africa 3 009 0.5 % Ethiopia 2 977 0.5 % Other and not yet targeted Countries 97 358 16.5 % Where did you get these figures from, and what actually constitutes a fan...33,000 Here in Thailand....Don't think so....
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Post by foster on Oct 23, 2015 6:44:26 GMT
If you book them they will come. Wayne World 2. Wasn't that a quote from that famous Stokie: Kevin Costner. Wunna dunner? Kostner was 'build it' from Field of Dreams
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Post by penkvillepotter on Oct 23, 2015 7:46:56 GMT
The lack of planning in not extending the Stadium has been staggeringly unambitious. We're getting bigger crowds again now because of better football and better players but (and for fucks sake it's not a Pulis row) but we filled the stadium in 2008. The 21 year old skint student then is 28 and potentially thinking about his kids first game. The wide eyed 11 year old with his first season ticket that season is nearly 18 and close to making his own economic choices. The street have been awash with Stoke strips for years and years. Scholes moaned about us being an ageing supporter base years ago but the club has done little to capitalise on attracting young fans. Build the seats, lower matchday prices, do special offers, student offers, low paid/services deals. We put 10K on the average crowd in a season, we should have done it straight after the cup final season but we didn't and I'm sure there was reticence as the Pulis era fizzled out but not to do it now really does question the long term motives of those involved. It could well come to the point that when kids get too old for the family stand there will be nowhere for parents and kids to move to. Desperate for this corner to be filled in.
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Post by nott1 on Oct 23, 2015 15:31:52 GMT
The lack of planning in not extending the Stadium has been staggeringly unambitious. We're getting bigger crowds again now because of better football and better players but (and for fucks sake it's not a Pulis row) but we filled the stadium in 2008. The 21 year old skint student then is 28 and potentially thinking about his kids first game. The wide eyed 11 year old with his first season ticket that season is nearly 18 and close to making his own economic choices. The street have been awash with Stoke strips for years and years. Scholes moaned about us being an ageing supporter base years ago but the club has done little to capitalise on attracting young fans. Build the seats, lower matchday prices, do special offers, student offers, low paid/services deals. We put 10K on the average crowd in a season, we should have done it straight after the cup final season but we didn't and I'm sure there was reticence as the Pulis era fizzled out but not to do it now really does question the long term motives of those involved. It could well come to the point that when kids get too old for the family stand there will be nowhere for parents and kids to move to. Desperate for this corner to be filled in. Good point.
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Post by Dallas Cowboy on Oct 23, 2015 15:40:59 GMT
Where's bleedin' China? I know there are at least two of us here. At least 20 in Belgium mate. All those chinese support Man United don't they? Man Utd, Chelsea and Arsenal seem to be the favorite English clubs then of course there is the likes of Barcelona, Real Madrid and Bayern Munich, judging from the tops that are worn. I think it will take Stoke reaching the final stages of the Champions League before they appear on China's radar. So 2017!
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Post by ange1 on Oct 23, 2015 15:49:41 GMT
Interestingly, the Chinese branch of our supporters club has over 700 members, and Stoke are gaining interest in the country partly due to the coaching that is being carried out in Shanghai and the interaction on match day via the equivalent to Twitter in the country. Maybe getting into the final stages of the Champions League will help speed up the process
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Oct 23, 2015 16:12:39 GMT
Interestingly, the Chinese branch of our supporters club has over 700 members, and Stoke are gaining interest in the country partly due to the coaching that is being carried out in Shanghai and the interaction on match day via the equivalent to Twitter in the country. Maybe getting into the final stages of the Champions League will help speed up the process We missed a trick in not getting President Xi Jinping to visit the Britannia today instead of the Etihad. Scholes out!
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Post by Dallas Cowboy on Oct 23, 2015 16:25:00 GMT
Interestingly, the Chinese branch of our supporters club has over 700 members, and Stoke are gaining interest in the country partly due to the coaching that is being carried out in Shanghai and the interaction on match day via the equivalent to Twitter in the country. Maybe getting into the final stages of the Champions League will help speed up the process The equivalent of Twitter is WeChat. I must check it out tomorrow.
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Post by ange1 on Oct 23, 2015 17:20:30 GMT
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Post by Sven on Oct 23, 2015 17:28:12 GMT
The lack of planning in not extending the Stadium has been staggeringly unambitious. We're getting bigger crowds again now because of better football and better players but (and for fucks sake it's not a Pulis row) but we filled the stadium in 2008. The 21 year old skint student then is 28 and potentially thinking about his kids first game. The wide eyed 11 year old with his first season ticket that season is nearly 18 and close to making his own economic choices. The street have been awash with Stoke strips for years and years. Scholes moaned about us being an ageing supporter base years ago but the club has done little to capitalise on attracting young fans. Build the seats, lower matchday prices, do special offers, student offers, low paid/services deals. We put 10K on the average crowd in a season, we should have done it straight after the cup final season but we didn't and I'm sure there was reticence as the Pulis era fizzled out but not to do it now really does question the long term motives of those involved. It could well come to the point that when kids get too old for the family stand there will be nowhere for parents and kids to move to. Desperate for this corner to be filled in. Seats are already sparse, had to move out of the family stand at the end of last season and unless your willing/want to sit on the front 5 rows it was difficult to get seats together. we got 4 in the end but not on the same row, got a 2 on one row and 2 infront. Just fill the bloody thing in
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Post by foster on Mar 1, 2016 11:22:57 GMT
Well, I finally did it. I decided to open a Supporters Branch (Brussels).
Paperwork has gone into the club and I'm just waiting on them to confirm all is well before giving my acceptance speech as new chairperson.
Currently membership stands at 1, but I hope to increase that with time and certainly do better than the poor excuse for a 'Supporters Branch of Belgium', which currently exists.
As a final point, I would appreciate it if people on here refer to me as 'Sir Foster' from now on. I find anything other than this to be disrespectful if I'm honest.
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Post by eddyclamp on Mar 1, 2016 13:13:13 GMT
I was told by someone who worked for Stoke during the second season in the prem , that the scoreboard corner could be filled in and all the seats could be sold to an extended family stand due to demand. That was then.
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