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Post by Stokiedokie on Oct 8, 2015 17:13:38 GMT
Get TP in there to mix things up. Rooney at right back, Smalling up front and Harry Kane in the cage. Triffic!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2015 17:21:29 GMT
Just his level second tier side with no chance of winning owt he's a shoe in.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Oct 8, 2015 17:38:30 GMT
That's not the same as changing systems. And again, they finished second and nearly won the league. Something literally nobody was tipping them to do. I meant to put an 'and' in there somewhere. I seem to remember him changing shit all the time, maybe I'm thinking of what he's been doing since Suarez left and Rodgers pissed away all the money they received for him. Admittedly, the full brunt of that should be placed upon that ridiculous 'committee', but some has to go on Brendan. And that defense that season was terrible, that I know I remember correctly. Absolutely, his transfer record is largely hideous and he didn't respond well at all to the Suarez thing. Can't help feeling his sacking is slightly premature though. He deserves his share of credit amid the (rightful) criticism. He's clearly a prize egotist to the point of embarrassment but I don't think we've seen the last of him.
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Post by enuntio on Oct 8, 2015 19:21:16 GMT
Tough to think of any better realistic alternatives. Can't see Mourinho or Wenger wanting it. Rodgers is better than Pardew. In what way is Rodgers better than Pardew?
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Post by chiefdelilah on Oct 8, 2015 19:25:33 GMT
Tough to think of any better realistic alternatives. Can't see Mourinho or Wenger wanting it. Rodgers is better than Pardew. In what way is Rodgers better than Pardew? I feel like Alice in Wonderland at the Mad Hatter's Tea Party here. What's the argument that he isn't? Compare their records. Both good managers, Rodgers IMO. What has Pardew done that Rodgers hasn't?
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Post by enuntio on Oct 8, 2015 19:33:33 GMT
In what way is Rodgers better than Pardew? I feel like Alice in Wonderland at the Mad Hatter's Tea Party here. What's the argument that he isn't? Compare their records. Both good managers, Rodgers IMO. What has Pardew done that Rodgers hasn't? Not frittered tens of millions away, not worked under a supportive owner. Newcastle had a good season, the chairman sold a player under Pardews nose and didn't replace him, we know the run they are in since last Xmas. Pardew went to Palace, how have they done sine his arrival? More tea vicar?
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Post by chiefdelilah on Oct 8, 2015 19:35:21 GMT
I feel like Alice in Wonderland at the Mad Hatter's Tea Party here. What's the argument that he isn't? Compare their records. Both good managers, Rodgers IMO. What has Pardew done that Rodgers hasn't? Not frittered tens of millions away, not worked under a supportive owner. Newcastle had a good season, the chairman sold a player under Pardews nose and didn't replace him, we know the run they are in since last Xmas. Pardew went to Palace, how have they done sine his arrival? More tea vicar? So West Ham weren't supportive? He didn't fritter away money there? Or at Charlton where we had one of the biggest budgets in the Championship? Are you really comparing doing a good job at Crystal Palace with nearly winning the Premier League?
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Post by Boothen on Oct 8, 2015 19:56:44 GMT
Michael Laudrup is still my choice.
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Post by partickpotter on Oct 8, 2015 21:33:08 GMT
He'd be fine - if he could pick Suarez!
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Post by miltonstokie on Oct 8, 2015 22:52:44 GMT
Can't stand the egotistic fucktard ... Anyone who walks into their home and has to stare at a self portrait of themselves needs to get a mirror !!
Phil Brown for me
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Post by JoeinOz on Oct 8, 2015 23:47:11 GMT
This time last year Pardew was a national joke. When we played them it had the air of a public execution. Now he's being mentioned for the top job.
No long term consideration goes into it and if the qualities a manager has are appropriate for the role.
I aren't knocking Pardy at all. At Newcastle some of the shyte he got was ludicrous.
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Post by StokieBoy31 on Oct 9, 2015 1:12:53 GMT
I'd take him over Roy, but then again I'd rather anyone in charge but Roy
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Post by kustokie on Oct 9, 2015 1:30:03 GMT
Is all this vitriol of Hodgson because he hasn't picked our home-town hero? Or, is based on something more substantial - like failing to win all our Euro qualifiers?
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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 9, 2015 1:37:08 GMT
Is all this vitriol of Hodgson because he hasn't picked our home-town hero? Or, is based on something more substantial - like failing to win all our Euro qualifiers? He's pretty crap at international football management.
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Post by JoeinOz on Oct 9, 2015 2:52:02 GMT
Is all this vitriol of Hodgson because he hasn't picked our home-town hero? Or, is based on something more substantial - like failing to win all our Euro qualifiers? He's pretty crap at international football management. He did decent jobs at UAE and with Finland. With Switzerland he was very successful. He's been OK with England too. Take out the Shawcross situation and the daft expectation he's been decent enough.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Oct 9, 2015 3:31:39 GMT
Rodgers is a great manager.
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Post by enuntio on Oct 9, 2015 7:26:11 GMT
Not frittered tens of millions away, not worked under a supportive owner. Newcastle had a good season, the chairman sold a player under Pardews nose and didn't replace him, we know the run they are in since last Xmas. Pardew went to Palace, how have they done sine his arrival? More tea vicar? So West Ham weren't supportive? He didn't fritter away money there? Or at Charlton where we had one of the biggest budgets in the Championship? Are you really comparing doing a good job at Crystal Palace with nearly winning the Premier League? YES All managers have their bad spells, but spending £300,000,000 and not doing better isn't a bad spell. Rodgers has more chance of managing Ireland than England and I hope he does
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Post by cousindupree on Oct 9, 2015 7:41:15 GMT
Rodgers tactical car crash in the 6-1 humiliation suggest he isn't as clever as he thinks he is.His ego will always impair his judgement.He is a flawed manager whose level is more SCFC than top six
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Post by chiefdelilah on Oct 9, 2015 7:52:26 GMT
So West Ham weren't supportive? He didn't fritter away money there? Or at Charlton where we had one of the biggest budgets in the Championship? Are you really comparing doing a good job at Crystal Palace with nearly winning the Premier League? YES All managers have their bad spells, but spending £300,000,000 and not doing better isn't a bad spell. Rodgers has more chance of managing Ireland than England and I hope he does So Pardew's bad spells (and there have been plenty) are all excused but Rodgers aren't? Behave, it isn't that simple. Yes, Rodgers is very poor in the transfer market but that isn't all there is to being a manager and it wouldn't be a factor in international management.
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Post by enuntio on Oct 9, 2015 8:08:52 GMT
YES All managers have their bad spells, but spending £300,000,000 and not doing better isn't a bad spell. Rodgers has more chance of managing Ireland than England and I hope he does So Pardew's bad spells (and there have been plenty) are all excused but Rodgers aren't? Behave, it isn't that simple. Yes, Rodgers is very poor in the transfer market but that isn't all there is to being a manager and it wouldn't be a factor in international management. Of course it is. The manager chooses his players for the team, be it from a squad or a nation. Rodgers can't pick his nose. It's a case of horses for courses and Rodgers course isn't Wembley
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Post by jarvinski on Oct 9, 2015 8:15:53 GMT
He wouldn't get a job at leek town
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Post by chiefdelilah on Oct 9, 2015 8:19:46 GMT
So Pardew's bad spells (and there have been plenty) are all excused but Rodgers aren't? Behave, it isn't that simple. Yes, Rodgers is very poor in the transfer market but that isn't all there is to being a manager and it wouldn't be a factor in international management. Of course it is. The manager chooses his players for the team, be it from a squad or a nation. Rodgers can't pick his nose. It's a case of horses for courses and Rodgers course isn't Wembley Is it bollocks. You have to work with what you've got, you're more limited and Rodgers has shown himself to be adept at helping to develop and give confidence to young players, which is what the remit calls for here.
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Post by okeydokeystokie2 on Oct 9, 2015 8:35:08 GMT
I suspect the FA had a succession plan lined up with Southgate, but yet another disastrous tournament may have scuppered that.
Eddie Howe must have something. Maybe he should be working with the U21s with a view to taking the bulk of them into the senior team, similar to the German way with Low.
If we want an English Manager of the national team, the short list is, well, very short.
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