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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 8, 2015 12:30:14 GMT
Errrrrr no thanks.
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Post by greenhoff74 on Oct 8, 2015 12:32:17 GMT
Are you really totally writing off the fact that he came closer than any Liverpool manager in a quarter of a century to winning the title? With an outstanding brand of football that season too I recall.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Oct 8, 2015 12:32:48 GMT
Tough to think of any better realistic alternatives.
Can't see Mourinho or Wenger wanting it.
Rodgers is better than Pardew.
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Post by pyrus on Oct 8, 2015 12:39:42 GMT
Pardew, Southgate, GNev, Big Sam or Rodgers. Pick your next England manager out of that lot - they are the only credible candidates. you could probably add Gary Monk as well, but I'd favour Sam Allardyce
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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 8, 2015 13:06:25 GMT
Tough to think of any better realistic alternatives. Can't see Mourinho or Wenger wanting it. Rodgers is better than Pardew.What makes you think that? I'd rather keep Hodgson than have Rodgers.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Oct 8, 2015 13:11:05 GMT
Tough to think of any better realistic alternatives. Can't see Mourinho or Wenger wanting it. Rodgers is better than Pardew.What makes you think that? I'd rather keep Hodgson than have Rodgers. Pardew's a decent manager but he's had just as many failures as Rodgers if not more. Rodgers did an excellent job at Swansea and for all he got wrong at Liverpool nearly won the league with them.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Oct 8, 2015 13:11:51 GMT
Tough to think of any better realistic alternatives. Can't see Mourinho or Wenger wanting it. Rodgers is better than Pardew.What makes you think that? I'd rather keep Hodgson than have Rodgers. You have to separate the ego and daft statements from the actual record.
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Post by Gods on Oct 8, 2015 13:11:43 GMT
We always alternate English/Foreigner these days as each type gets the blame for our lack of success. Keegan (English) Sven (Swede) McLaren (English with a bit of Dutch!) Fabio (Italian) Hodgson(English) ...foreigner next Not sure what Rogers falls under, because he obviously isn't English but I don't for one second think of him as a "foreigner" either. Yes it is as peculiar a "GB and Northern Ireland" accent as you will ever hear, I guess like anyone it is simply the result of his multiple touch points!
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Post by hartzchoco on Oct 8, 2015 14:09:51 GMT
What makes you think that? I'd rather keep Hodgson than have Rodgers. Pardew's a decent manager but he's had just as many failures as Rodgers if not more. Rodgers did an excellent job at Swansea and for all he got wrong at Liverpool nearly won the league with them. That was Suarez. Rodgers had about as much to do with that run as I did.
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Post by sage on Oct 8, 2015 14:13:01 GMT
I think Rodgers is a much better manager than people have been giving him credit for. Given that no pundit ever predicts anyone outside the Shit/Chelski/Arse/City for top 4, Rodgers matched expectations with Liverpool 2 seasons out of 3 and greatly exceeded them in the other. He still has a lot of learning to do, particularly when it comes to defending, but his teams play attractive, positive football and I'd 100x rather have him than that miserable twat Woy (not saying Rodgers is absolutely the best man for the England job, but Roy is fucking useless). At least we'd get a bit of entertainment before crashing out.
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Post by hartzchoco on Oct 8, 2015 14:14:12 GMT
He'd be the one I'd go for. He isn't entrenched in any one tactical system, he's effective at bringing young English players through. Massive ego, bit of a tit, not perfect, but a young manager with his own ideas who very nearly did what no other manager has done for 25 years at Liverpool. I think he's what the job needs. He's suddenly being treated as if he's Bryan Robson, presumably by the same people who thought a bad time at QPR erased all the good work Hughes did elsewhere. 'Bit of a tit'? Really? He takes over managerial duties at a 'big club', suddenly thinks his shit doesn't stink, loses a bunch of weight, hits the spray tan, gets a brand new set of choppers, leaves his wife and kids for a sparkly new little blonde tramp....... yeah. Bit of a tit.
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Post by Pugsley on Oct 8, 2015 14:23:06 GMT
Pardew's a decent manager but he's had just as many failures as Rodgers if not more. Rodgers did an excellent job at Swansea and for all he got wrong at Liverpool nearly won the league with them. That was Suarez. Rodgers had about as much to do with that run as I did. King Kenny had Suarez but didn't do as well.
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Post by baystokie on Oct 8, 2015 14:26:27 GMT
He'd be the one I'd go for. He isn't entrenched in any one tactical system, he's effective at bringing young English players through. Massive ego, bit of a tit, not perfect, but a young manager with his own ideas who very nearly did what no other manager has done for 25 years at Liverpool. I think he's what the job needs. He's suddenly being treated as if he's Bryan Robson, presumably by the same people who thought a bad time at QPR erased all the good work Hughes did elsewhere. 'Bit of a tit'? Really? He takes over managerial duties at a 'big club', suddenly thinks his shit doesn't stink, loses a bunch of weight, hits the spray tan, gets a brand new set of choppers, leaves his wife and kids for a sparkly new little blonde tramp....... yeah. Bit of a tit. Apart from your reference to 'managerial duties', the rest of that sentence could ALLEGEDLY apply to a large number of Prem players. Maybe even ALLEGEDLY apply to a fair number of the UK male population
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Post by chiefdelilah on Oct 8, 2015 14:27:54 GMT
Pardew's a decent manager but he's had just as many failures as Rodgers if not more. Rodgers did an excellent job at Swansea and for all he got wrong at Liverpool nearly won the league with them. That was Suarez. Rodgers had about as much to do with that run as I did. Why didn't Dalglish do as well with him then? It was more than Suarez, Sturridge, Sterling, Coutinho, Gerrard, Henderson and even players like Flanagan played their part. Rodgers also found a system that accommodated and got the best out of that attacking talent.
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Post by hartzchoco on Oct 8, 2015 14:30:35 GMT
That was Suarez. Rodgers had about as much to do with that run as I did. King Kenny had Suarez but didn't do as well. That was by far Suarez' best season, same for Sturridge. That season had a lightning in a bottle feel to it. I just don't think Brendan had much to do with it.
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Post by hartzchoco on Oct 8, 2015 14:31:17 GMT
That was Suarez. Rodgers had about as much to do with that run as I did. Why didn't Dalglish do as well with him then? It was more than Suarez, Sturridge, Sterling, Coutinho, Gerrard, Henderson and even players like Flanagan played their part. Rodgers also found a system that accommodated and got the best out of that attacking talent. He changed systems every fucking week.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Oct 8, 2015 14:33:14 GMT
Why didn't Dalglish do as well with him then? It was more than Suarez, Sturridge, Sterling, Coutinho, Gerrard, Henderson and even players like Flanagan played their part. Rodgers also found a system that accommodated and got the best out of that attacking talent. He changed systems every fucking week. Not that season he didn't.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Oct 8, 2015 14:34:05 GMT
King Kenny had Suarez but didn't do as well. That was by far Suarez' best season, same for Sturridge. That season had a lightning in a bottle feel to it. I just don't think Brendan had much to do with it. Does the manager have no part in getting the best out of players then?
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Post by hartzchoco on Oct 8, 2015 14:40:16 GMT
He changed systems every fucking week. Not that season he didn't. He did. He constantly switched things at the back. They conceded 50 goals in 38 games.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Oct 8, 2015 14:46:18 GMT
He'd be the one I'd go for. He isn't entrenched in any one tactical system, he's effective at bringing young English players through. Massive ego, bit of a tit, not perfect, but a young manager with his own ideas who very nearly did what no other manager has done for 25 years at Liverpool. I think he's what the job needs. He's suddenly being treated as if he's Bryan Robson, presumably by the same people who thought a bad time at QPR erased all the good work Hughes did elsewhere. 'Bit of a tit'? Really? He takes over managerial duties at a 'big club', suddenly thinks his shit doesn't stink, loses a bunch of weight, hits the spray tan, gets a brand new set of choppers, leaves his wife and kids for a sparkly new little blonde tramp....... yeah. Bit of a tit. But so what does that matter in football terms? Sven was a bit of a ladies man despite looking older than me Grandad. I think people are clouding their judgement because Rodgers comes out with some bullshit from time to time. Hes a very decent manager, and you could argue all the bad signings made at Liverpool were a result of the "Transfer Committee". It was Rodgers first big job so he could hardly demand everything his own way with the owners so he had to accept a lot of the signings. I cant see anyone better available and potentially interested in being England manager.
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Post by hartzchoco on Oct 8, 2015 14:51:21 GMT
'Bit of a tit'? Really? He takes over managerial duties at a 'big club', suddenly thinks his shit doesn't stink, loses a bunch of weight, hits the spray tan, gets a brand new set of choppers, leaves his wife and kids for a sparkly new little blonde tramp....... yeah. Bit of a tit. But so what does that matter in football terms? Sven was a bit of a ladies man despite looking older than me Grandad. I think people are clouding their judgement because Rodgers comes out with some bullshit from time to time. Hes a very decent manager, and you could argue all the bad signings made at Liverpool were a result of the "Transfer Committee". It was Rodgers first big job so he could hardly demand everything his own way with the owners so he had to accept a lot of the signings. I cant see anyone better available and potentially interested in being England manager. Didn't say it mattered in football terms. Just pointing out that he's a douchebag.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Oct 8, 2015 15:18:07 GMT
But so what does that matter in football terms? Sven was a bit of a ladies man despite looking older than me Grandad. I think people are clouding their judgement because Rodgers comes out with some bullshit from time to time. Hes a very decent manager, and you could argue all the bad signings made at Liverpool were a result of the "Transfer Committee". It was Rodgers first big job so he could hardly demand everything his own way with the owners so he had to accept a lot of the signings. I cant see anyone better available and potentially interested in being England manager. Didn't say it mattered in football terms. Just pointing out that he's a douchebag. Hes a self-loving cheeseball but then which successful managers arent? It kinda comes with the territory. The "likeable" managers such as Stuart Pearce usually turn out to be wankio
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Post by manmarking on Oct 8, 2015 15:32:14 GMT
But so what does that matter in football terms? Sven was a bit of a ladies man despite looking older than me Grandad. I think people are clouding their judgement because Rodgers comes out with some bullshit from time to time. Hes a very decent manager, and you could argue all the bad signings made at Liverpool were a result of the "Transfer Committee". It was Rodgers first big job so he could hardly demand everything his own way with the owners so he had to accept a lot of the signings. I cant see anyone better available and potentially interested in being England manager. Didn't say it mattered in football terms. Just pointing out that he's a douchebag. A "douchebag"? We're talking soccer here mate. I think you must be thinking of the Brendan Rodgers who plays baseball for the Colorado Rockies .
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Post by hartzchoco on Oct 8, 2015 15:33:34 GMT
Didn't say it mattered in football terms. Just pointing out that he's a douchebag. Hes a self-loving cheeseball but then which successful managers arent? It kinda comes with the territory. The "likeable" managers such as Stuart Pearce usually turn out to be wankio It's more than just being arrogant. The guy is a complete tool.
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Post by superstokiesimo on Oct 8, 2015 15:34:06 GMT
Rodgers is a cowboy so is woy
Big Sam???
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2015 15:42:52 GMT
That was Suarez. Rodgers had about as much to do with that run as I did. Why didn't Dalglish do as well with him then? It was more than Suarez, Sturridge, Sterling, Coutinho, Gerrard, Henderson and even players like Flanagan played their part. Rodgers also found a system that accommodated and got the best out of that attacking talent. Rob and Brendan up a tree...... sorry, couldn't resist....on a serious note though, can't really disagree with much you've said actually
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Post by chiefdelilah on Oct 8, 2015 16:27:23 GMT
Not that season he didn't. He did. He constantly switched things at the back. They conceded 50 goals in 38 games. That's not the same as changing systems. And again, they finished second and nearly won the league. Something literally nobody was tipping them to do.
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Post by hchpotter on Oct 8, 2015 16:34:18 GMT
If Rodgers can walk out of Anfield a failure with a £7 million pay off after 3 long and loyal years just think how much he'll be worth after cocking up for England.
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Post by hartzchoco on Oct 8, 2015 17:04:31 GMT
He did. He constantly switched things at the back. They conceded 50 goals in 38 games. That's not the same as changing systems. And again, they finished second and nearly won the league. Something literally nobody was tipping them to do. I meant to put an 'and' in there somewhere. I seem to remember him changing shit all the time, maybe I'm thinking of what he's been doing since Suarez left and Rodgers pissed away all the money they received for him. Admittedly, the full brunt of that should be placed upon that ridiculous 'committee', but some has to go on Brendan. And that defense that season was terrible, that I know I remember correctly.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Oct 8, 2015 17:11:16 GMT
Can someone tell me, how many trophies, Rogers, Martinez and Moyes have won between them, has Managers?
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