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Post by jarvinski on Oct 1, 2015 11:51:29 GMT
After listening just to his interview on ssn, it is obvious he is not going to pick Jack Butland before Hart in these next two games, he said he might put Jack in the team in Lithuania but that was not definite, but no chance for the Wembley game
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Post by JoeinOz on Oct 1, 2015 11:52:21 GMT
Is that why he is a prick?
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Post by shrewspotter on Oct 1, 2015 11:59:33 GMT
Is that why he is a prick? yep, hes a prick!!!
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Post by JoeinOz on Oct 1, 2015 12:01:21 GMT
Is he a prick because he isn't going to start a Stoke player??
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Post by werrington on Oct 1, 2015 12:01:26 GMT
Personal abuse is pathetic
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Post by djduncanjames on Oct 1, 2015 12:02:14 GMT
Is that why he is a prick? yep, hes a prick!!! He's a "pwick" boys, do keep up
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Post by slpmarc on Oct 1, 2015 12:08:18 GMT
More the fact he said Jack may not start as it will upset Hart who wants to play. Who picks the team Roy, you or Joe Hart. Man up a bit and pic the team you want and not get dictated to by club managers and players
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Post by JoeinOz on Oct 1, 2015 12:10:30 GMT
More the fact he said Jack may not start as it will upset Hart who wants to play. Who picks the team Roy, you or Joe Hart. Man up a bit and pic the team you want and not get dictated to by club managers and players If club managers dictate anything Jack will start.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Oct 1, 2015 12:14:31 GMT
That evil Roy and his anti-Stoke agenda, which he's shown again by, erm, naming the Stoke goalkeeper in his squad.
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Post by rawli on Oct 1, 2015 12:19:03 GMT
I'd say it's bad squad management to not blood a young keeper in no risk games rather than wait until there's a crisis that forces him to play him.
The prick.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Oct 1, 2015 12:20:25 GMT
This time last year nobody gave a fuck who was in goal.
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Post by werrington on Oct 1, 2015 12:21:44 GMT
This time last year nobody gave a fuck who was in goal. There were quite a few on here who didn't even want him in the Stoke goal I'm confused
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Post by rawli on Oct 1, 2015 12:24:34 GMT
This time last year nobody gave a fuck who was in goal. I think it's because he plays for Stoke.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Oct 1, 2015 12:26:48 GMT
This time last year nobody gave a fuck who was in goal. I think it's because he plays for Stoke. Yep, so he wasn't an evil prick for picking his best goalkeeper then, but he is now... Almost as if the level of opprobrium isn't really warranted.
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Post by tomkinson67 on Oct 1, 2015 12:33:32 GMT
This time last year nobody gave a fuck who was in goal. There were quite a few on here who didn't even want him in the Stoke goal I'm confused Quite a lot said he wouldn't be ready for Stoke for a couple more seasons!
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Post by crouchie on Oct 1, 2015 12:34:22 GMT
This time last year nobody gave a fuck who was in goal. this year they they do give a fuck maybe its the pride of seeing a stoke player playing in the england national side but its only a guess
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Post by jeycov on Oct 1, 2015 12:36:55 GMT
I could pick Jack Butland ... but I don't want to upset Joe Hart, says Roy Hodgson
The unfortunate aspect of this press release is that Hodgson has not kept these thoughts to himself, even if he decides to select Hart
He goes on to say
"But the problem is that in giving someone a go or a chance you are robbing a guy who wants to play.
"It would be easier for me if some of the senior players didn't want to play all the games."
It will be interesting to see if any of the newer additions / u21 players get their chance
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Post by chiefdelilah on Oct 1, 2015 12:37:41 GMT
This time last year nobody gave a fuck who was in goal. this year they they do give a fuck maybe its the pride of seeing a stoke player playing in the england national side but its only a guess Exactly, so it's just a Stoke thing, we want to see a Stoke player playing for England. Why dress it up as some kind of agenda from the manager when it's not really a hugely unreasonable decision?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2015 12:38:20 GMT
This time last year nobody gave a fuck who was in goal. this year they they do give a fuck maybe its the pride of seeing a stoke player playing in the england national side but its only a guess so hang on....we pillory a manager for only playing players from certain teams yet it's fine for US to pick and choose whether we support england based on...whether or no the players come from particular teams (i.e. stoke)? Fucking ludicrous logic and says far more about some on here being idiots than it does hodgson if that's the kind of hypocritical logic they're using.
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Post by crouchie on Oct 1, 2015 12:44:50 GMT
come on chief he experiments on every other part of the pitch yet when it comes to the goalkeeper
he does'nt want to upset harts feelings i have never heard such codswallop
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Post by chiefdelilah on Oct 1, 2015 12:46:08 GMT
come on chief he experiments on every other part of the pitch yet when it comes to the goalkeeper he does'nt want to upset harts feelings i have never heard such codswallop I just don't think it matters mate. There's a case for trying someone else and a case for sticking with Hart. If Butland didn't play for us nobody would be shedding any tears about it one way or the other.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 1, 2015 12:48:16 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2015 12:48:42 GMT
Butland is young enough. He'll get his chance, and he'll take it.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 1, 2015 12:49:54 GMT
This time last year nobody gave a fuck who was in goal. There were quite a few on here who didn't even want him in the Stoke goal I'm confused Yes, because people aren't allowed to change their opinion ever.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Oct 1, 2015 12:54:53 GMT
There may well be more to it than a glib nothing statement to be fair. It isn't the travesty or no-brainier it's being painted as.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2015 12:56:56 GMT
There were quite a few on here who didn't even want him in the Stoke goal I'm confused Yes, because people aren't allowed to change their opinion ever. so you're saying that because some stoke fans have changed their opinion then therefore hodgson HAS to pick him???? It's just the usual anti-england bollocksy agenda by the usual suspects....don't support them because stoke player don't get in the squad,then when 1 does the goalsposts are moved and now it's a case of don't support them because they're not an automatic first choice.tedious in the extreme!!! People moan that he only picks players because of their teams rather than ability...now,whilst that may be true with some players the simple fact is that here hodgson has picked the best english goalkeeper to play in goal for england...in other words chosen the player based on his talent (which is apparently what people want him to do in the bloody first place!!!.....oh apart from when it doesn't fit the current argument of course) chop,change,flip flop,back and forth,move the goalposts here there and everywhere just so they have a tenuous excuse to moan about hodgson...juvenile and transparent!
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Post by slpmarc on Oct 1, 2015 12:57:56 GMT
Won't let me post pics on here so here is my tweet instead
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Post by crouchie on Oct 1, 2015 12:59:56 GMT
this year they they do give a fuck maybe its the pride of seeing a stoke player playing in the england national side but its only a guess so hang on....we pillory a manager for only playing players from certain teams yet it's fine for US to pick and choose whether we support england based on...whether or no the players come from particular teams (i.e. stoke)? Fucking ludicrous logic and says far more about some on here being idiots than it does hodgson if that's the kind of hypocritical logic they're using. mick nowhere on that post have i said i will only support england if a stoke player plays, i will always supprt england whoever plays but with 8 wins from 8 the group sewn up his reason for potentially not giving jack a game is disappointing thats all
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2015 13:06:41 GMT
so hang on....we pillory a manager for only playing players from certain teams yet it's fine for US to pick and choose whether we support england based on...whether or no the players come from particular teams (i.e. stoke)? Fucking ludicrous logic and says far more about some on here being idiots than it does hodgson if that's the kind of hypocritical logic they're using. mick nowhere on that post have i said i will only support england if a stoke player plays, i will always supprt england whoever plays but with 8 wins from 8 the group sewn up his reason for potentially not giving jack a game is disappointing thats all but your statement "maybe this year they give a fuck because etc." implies that they didn't give a fuck before because there weren't stoke players in the team? In fact i can't see any other possible meaning of what you said in that post....therefore it IS massively hypicritical of people to slate hodgson for only picking players because of their team if people will only support england BECAUSE he's picking a player from a certain team....aren't they the exact kind of plastic supporters we usually deride?? If you support england then you support them,you don't pick and choose dependent upon whether or not a stoke player has been picked.if that is how people make their choice on whether or not to support the team then they deserve all the bloody criticism they get imo
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Post by Clayton Wood on Oct 1, 2015 13:07:22 GMT
More the fact he said Jack may not start as it will upset Hart who wants to play. Who picks the team Roy, you or Joe Hart. Man up a bit and pic the team you want and not get dictated to by club managers and players The Daily Mail/Mirror/Express pick the team, Woy just makes the phone calls. "But the problem is that in giving someone a go or a chance you are robbing a guy who wants to play." Good job Jack inna arsed either way then
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