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Post by stokeharry on Sept 30, 2015 19:19:54 GMT
Aww thanks , you've made me blush ;-) I'd be careful Harry ....************** seems to be trying to groom you ..... Don't forget , he's more intelligent than everyone else ..... Get me coat I've pulled ;-)
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Post by Skankmonkey on Sept 30, 2015 19:24:17 GMT
Aww thanks , you've made me blush ;-) I'd be careful Harry ....************** seems to be trying to groom you ..... Don't forget , he's more intelligent than everyone else ..... I haven't a clue whether ************** is trying to groom stokeharry or not. I'm not the jealous type anyway. From my observations of him over the years I can confirm your suspicion that ************** is more intelligent than you at least. I don't know about anybody else. He certainly seems to inspire your usual panic reaction anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2015 19:25:09 GMT
Having travelled all over the country, I am still amazed that Stoke On Trent is so racist. We have for a City a very low % of ethnic minorities yet we are a stronghold region for the BNP and National Front. Living in Leek I find it almost laughable when I hear people go on about the ethnics, like its some sort of slur "they are taking over" etc, but in reality this area has a lower than average number per population than most areas of the UK. Also to the debate, only by integration can you get acceptance. Therefore we should be reaching out and grabbing the initiative, and that is not just a football club thing, but a society in general. Retweet
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2015 19:29:17 GMT
Race religion and politics should be banned on here. I agree with religion and politics, far too subjective. Race though? How is it even be an issue? I'm ashamed to be a contributor towards this board if that needs to be the case. T
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2015 19:32:45 GMT
Absolutely fucking pathetic how this has been moved to this Everything Else. Admins hang your heads in fucking shame. Is it not an issue that affects our club?
This very action reflects the attitude of this frankly backwards (at times) city - toss it to one side and don't deal with the issue at hand.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Sept 30, 2015 19:34:43 GMT
An unfortunate whiff of a leakage.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2015 19:35:49 GMT
I'd be careful Harry ....************** seems to be trying to groom you ..... Don't forget , he's more intelligent than everyone else ..... I haven't a clue whether ************** is trying to groom stokeharry or not. I'm not the jealous type anyway. From my observations of him over the years I can confirm your suspicion that ************** is more intelligent than you at least. I don't know about anybody else. He certainly seems to inspire your usual panic reaction anyway. Stop it ....my sides are aching ....
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Post by Skankmonkey on Sept 30, 2015 19:41:58 GMT
Absolutely fucking pathetic how this has been moved to this Everything Else. Admins hang your heads in fucking shame. Is it not an issue that directs our club? This very action reflects the attitude of this frankly backwards (at times) city - toss it to one side and don't deal with the issue at hand. That's it. Fewer reasonable people will see it to take part in the discussion and it will be trolled to death by the usual suspects.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2015 19:47:31 GMT
Absolutely fucking pathetic how this has been moved to this Everything Else. Admins hang your heads in fucking shame. Is it not an issue that directs our club? This very action reflects the attitude of this frankly backwards (at times) city - toss it to one side and don't deal with the issue at hand. That's it. Fewer reasonable people will see it to take part in the discussion and it will be trolled to death by the usual suspects. ..........Or even worse , trolled to death by the same nut job lunatic using multiple different usernames .!
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Post by dexta on Sept 30, 2015 19:48:31 GMT
Absolutely fucking pathetic how this has been moved to this Everything Else. Admins hang your heads in fucking shame. Is it not an issue that directs our club? This very action reflects the attitude of this frankly backwards (at times) city - toss it to one side and don't deal with the issue at hand. That's it. Fewer reasonable people will see it to take part in the discussion and it will be trolled to death by the usual suspects. tbh I find it all rather amusing...on message boards that's what it is all about people having different opinions....can't see why people get so wound up...its the internet people have the right to say things wrightly or wrongly its what keep these message boards going..if we all agreed on the same issues it would be wank
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Post by partickpotter on Sept 30, 2015 20:20:26 GMT
That's it. Fewer reasonable people will see it to take part in the discussion and it will be trolled to death by the usual suspects. tbh I find it all rather amusing...on message boards that's what it is all about people having different opinions....can't see why people get so wound up...its the internet people have the right to say things wrightly or wrongly its what keep these message boards going.. if we all agreed on the same issues it would be wankI don't agree.
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Post by crapslinger on Sept 30, 2015 20:27:44 GMT
That's it. Fewer reasonable people will see it to take part in the discussion and it will be trolled to death by the usual suspects. ..........Or even worse , trolled to death by the same nut job lunatic using multiple different usernames .! Do you think ************** has abducted Bisp. my bet is he is held hostage in a hut in Thailand with Ting Tong and a few of the discarded ************** alter egos, how many do you reckon are running around the board at the moment ?, my guess would be three maybe four.
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Post by dexta on Sept 30, 2015 20:28:32 GMT
tbh I find it all rather amusing...on message boards that's what it is all about people having different opinions....can't see why people get so wound up...its the internet people have the right to say things wrightly or wrongly its what keep these message boards going.. if we all agreed on the same issues it would be wankI don't agree.
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Post by dexta on Sept 30, 2015 20:29:21 GMT
ok...thats what make message boards different opinions
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Post by partickpotter on Sept 30, 2015 20:34:16 GMT
ok...thats what make message boards different opinions
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2015 20:37:54 GMT
..........Or even worse , trolled to death by the same nut job lunatic using multiple different usernames .! Do you think ************** has abducted Bisp. my bet is he is held hostage in a hut in Thailand with Ting Tong and a few of the discarded ************** alter egos, how many do you reckon are running around the board at the moment ?, my guess would be three maybe four. At least four .....with another two in the pipeline . i think I counted 6 characters that were blocked .....
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Post by crapslinger on Sept 30, 2015 20:48:23 GMT
Do you think ************** has abducted Bisp. my bet is he is held hostage in a hut in Thailand with Ting Tong and a few of the discarded ************** alter egos, how many do you reckon are running around the board at the moment ?, my guess would be three maybe four. At least four .....with another two in the pipeline . Seems to be trying to disguise his usual MO, not very successfully for someone who claims to be more intelligent than most other posters on the board, what a weird fucker and a fantasist of the highest order, living breathing proof that care in the community does not work , maybe Allahs left foot would be willing to take him under his wing if he can fit him in his flat that is with all those poor asylum seekers.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2015 21:02:33 GMT
*Looks at UKIP endorsement* *Instantly skips rest of comment on any sort of social/political matter* ~One of your resident American supporters EDIT: Also just checked out some of stokeharry and others' contributions on the EEB. Many of whose opinions (on football) I took with some gravity. Man alive you people need to get a grip! Such hatred is confounding. To be fair to him, stokeharry posseses a degree of self awareness and an appreciation of irony entirely absent in the other 2 members of the (no)Fun Boy Three. He is smarter than them as well. He also has a quietly dry sense of humour. Also he knows exactly what to put in an oatcake. He likes to call a spade a spade (ahem!). and I disagree vehemently with him on 95% of the stuff he writes - but I like him. He probably hates that. Which I like even more. He is an icon of postmodernism. He satirises himself with every post and so is entirely beyond parody. e.g. Take a wild guess at his least favourite film of recent years and then check in the relevant thread on the EE. I'll trust anyone with a Frank Zappa avatar!
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Post by crapslinger on Sept 30, 2015 21:07:19 GMT
To be fair to him, stokeharry posseses a degree of self awareness and an appreciation of irony entirely absent in the other 2 members of the (no)Fun Boy Three. He is smarter than them as well. He also has a quietly dry sense of humour. Also he knows exactly what to put in an oatcake. He likes to call a spade a spade (ahem!). and I disagree vehemently with him on 95% of the stuff he writes - but I like him. He probably hates that. Which I like even more. He is an icon of postmodernism. He satirises himself with every post and so is entirely beyond parody. e.g. Take a wild guess at his least favourite film of recent years and then check in the relevant thread on the EE. I'll trust anyone with a Frank Zappa avatar! Oh dear not another one
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Post by crapslinger on Sept 30, 2015 21:11:16 GMT
I'd be careful Harry ....************** seems to be trying to groom you ..... Don't forget , he's more intelligent than everyone else ..... Get me coat I've pulled ;-) Are you ready for a trip to Thailand in the morning Harry, let us know how you go on when you get back at lunchtime
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Post by heavysoul on Sept 30, 2015 21:57:08 GMT
Or not many Asian people like football in the area ? That is quite simply bullshit. If you have read any of the posts in the thread you could deduce that the number of Asian people that attend matches (a handful) compared to the amount in the area is staggeringly low. You're not telling me none of them like football or could become Stoke City fans given the opportunity if they are not already particularly interested in football, for whatever reason. When you say 'asian' who exactly are you referring to? Asia is a massive continent are you referring to why no Pakistani, indian or bangladeshi or chinese are going to the Brit? I perhaps give you a little insight as why possibly pakistani people are not attending. Perhaps pakistanis do not feel safe? due to the current climate (Islamaphobia) perhaps it could be due to the issue of racism only recently being addressed with 'kick it out' which i dont feel is working. When pakistanis first came to this country they were not exactly made to feel welcome. This is my experience and i dont believe i am alone my fathers generation linked football with national pride and in his time he was not seen as British. Hooliganism was also prevelent and linked to racist organisations. But this is only my view my Dad loved football but would never entertain a thought of attending a match as it simply in his view was not safe. Its good that we are asking why people from ethnic minorities are not attending football matches there was an interesting piece on Bradford City on the daily mail.com there more work needs to be done to access communities and break down barriers and ask these important questions. I must admit i felt anxious the first time i went to the Brit as held common misconception that i would be called names even though i am mixed race and my skin is slightly tanned. I still hear racism in the stands using the 'P' word but the only challenges i hear are on here. i have been a season ticket holder for a number of years now so is my 7 year old son and my wife. We are Stoke mad! I would also like to see more people from our diverse community coming to the Brit.
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Post by skip on Sept 30, 2015 23:25:13 GMT
Good for you Heavy Soul.
Mumf - my post is easy to understand - it doesn't take a professor in intertextuality* to understand that a place like Stoke isn't that welcoming to non-White football fans.
*look it up.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2015 23:35:38 GMT
That is quite simply bullshit. If you have read any of the posts in the thread you could deduce that the number of Asian people that attend matches (a handful) compared to the amount in the area is staggeringly low. You're not telling me none of them like football or could become Stoke City fans given the opportunity if they are not already particularly interested in football, for whatever reason. When you say 'asian' who exactly are you referring to? Asia is a massive continent are you referring to why no Pakistani, indian or bangladeshi or chinese are going to the Brit? I perhaps give you a little insight as why possibly pakistani people are not attending. Perhaps pakistanis do not feel safe? due to the current climate (Islamaphobia) perhaps it could be due to the issue of racism only recently being addressed with 'kick it out' which i dont feel is working. When pakistanis first came to this country they were not exactly made to feel welcome. This is my experience and i dont believe i am alone my fathers generation linked football with national pride and in his time he was not seen as British. Hooliganism was also prevelent and linked to racist organisations. But this is only my view my Dad loved football but would never entertain a thought of attending a match as it simply in his view was not safe. Its good that we are asking why people from ethnic minorities are not attending football matches there was an interesting piece on Bradford City on the daily mail.com there more work needs to be done to access communities and break down barriers and ask these important questions. I must admit i felt anxious the first time i went to the Brit as held common misconception that i would be called names even though i am mixed race and my skin is slightly tanned. I still hear racism in the stands using the 'P' word but the only challenges i hear are on here. i have been a season ticket holder for a number of years now so is my 7 year old son and my wife. We are Stoke mad! I would also like to see more people from our diverse community coming to the Brit. Yes I am talking about Pakistani/Indian/Bangladeshi communities. I didn't realise your ethnicity from your previous post, I thought you were suggesting the thread was stupid. I was also referring to the actual love of the game, which I believe these communities have. I don't believe the generation excuse is valid. I understand younger generations are used to more equality in society but it certainly doesn't excuse any prejudice for older generations and particularly in football. I think as a society if we hear older people incite racism we tend to laugh it off, when it should always be challenged. This is why I feel there is a problem at the Brit. Even though we are in 2015, we are still not seeing enough diversity at our football stadium. I think certain people will read this and think 'fucking hell, political correctness gone mad, we need to have so many of 'em through the gates so we are being equal.' No. As I and others have insinuated throughout this thread, there is definitely interest within these communities yet they are still not attending games. From a moral and even economic perspective, that needs to change.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2015 2:18:44 GMT
It has struck me recently that in my 16 years of watching Stoke home and away, I have never really seen many Asian supporters at the match, if any. In fact, I don't really know an awful lot of supporters outside the White British ethnicity group. I realise, I'm opening a bit of a can of worms here but should the club be doing more to encourage diversity amongst supporters and tapping into local Asian communities? If anything, this would make great financial sense given the size of our Asian community. I wouldn't like to think that local people were apprehensive about attending matches due to their ethnicity, though please correct me if I'm wrong and people do know of many Asian supporters. No more shouldn't be done to attract people from any particular ethnic group because if race doesn't matter then it doesn't matter what race the supporters are . By Asians I assume you mean the Pakistani / Bangladesh variety etc as opposed to our Chinese / Japanese etc brothers and sisters . Football and in particular clubs like Stoke that have always had a big hooligan element have also had a number of racists in their ranks but in this day and age, policing and CCTV etc pretty much has that whole scene wrapped up so nothing is stopping anyone from buying tickets for the match . Special treatment is not needed or welcome Correct. Special treatment is in itself tantamount to racism. OOhhh lets have a push to encourage Asian supporters, well what about being more inclusive and have a push to encourage any supporters, maybe disadvantaged, single parent families, etc etc etc, lets not just put our hand out to ethnic minorities. One thing that riles me is in the Met Police you have a Black Police Officers Association, could you imagine the uproar if there was a White Police Officers Association. Reverse racism is as bad as racism itself.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2015 2:24:39 GMT
To be fair to him, stokeharry posseses a degree of self awareness and an appreciation of irony entirely absent in the other 2 members of the (no)Fun Boy Three. He is smarter than them as well. He also has a quietly dry sense of humour. Also he knows exactly what to put in an oatcake. He likes to call a spade a spade (ahem!). and I disagree vehemently with him on 95% of the stuff he writes - but I like him. He probably hates that. Which I like even more. He is an icon of postmodernism. He satirises himself with every post and so is entirely beyond parody. e.g. Take a wild guess at his least favourite film of recent years and then check in the relevant thread on the EE. Aww thanks , you've made me blush ;-) Fucking hell you two, get a room...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2015 2:29:27 GMT
At least four .....with another two in the pipeline . Seems to be trying to disguise his usual MO, not very successfully for someone who claims to be more intelligent than most other posters on the board, what a weird fucker and a fantasist of the highest order, living breathing proof that care in the community does not work , maybe Allahs left foot would be willing to take him under his wing if he can fit him in his flat that is with all those poor asylum seekers. ************** is a good guy, met him and his missus last year, and even though we are probably 180 deg apart on our views I get on really well with him, he often raises some very good points on all subjects, and that's exactly what this board needs.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2015 6:46:34 GMT
Good for you Heavy Soul. Mumf - my post is easy to understand - it doesn't take a professor in intertextuality* to understand that a place like Stoke isn't that welcoming to non-White football fans. *look it up. You won't get any argument from me on that one . I have already clearly said , that after 40 years of government promoting and education on integration it clearly isn't working . Does it surprise me ..?.....no . Will it change any time soon ..?....no . Will it get better in the future ?......no . Do I really care ..?...no .. Do I think I have benefitted from not being apart of it ? Yes .....No arguments , no discussions, no special treatment to Muslims required if there aren't any . No body to enrage , no one to engage , just live your life in peace . Round here there is a strong sense of community where men wear brogues and women shop for the latest fashion . In Stoke the men we are discussing wear sandals and white cotton garments totally unsuitable to both the climate and culture . The women's attire equally unsuitable . Did you see the program on forced marriages last night ? Do you ever watch Cops or Police interceptors ? I do....What a fucking evil mess of Shit . The level of brutality and death threats issued to underage kids was staggering . I have no interest in them at all . I am not interested in lame pathetic excuses or utter gibberish non sensical responses . I live my life how I want to and will continue to do so .. The end .
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Post by crapslinger on Oct 1, 2015 7:13:21 GMT
Seems to be trying to disguise his usual MO, not very successfully for someone who claims to be more intelligent than most other posters on the board, what a weird fucker and a fantasist of the highest order, living breathing proof that care in the community does not work , maybe Allahs left foot would be willing to take him under his wing if he can fit him in his flat that is with all those poor asylum seekers. ************** is a good guy, met him and his missus last year, and even though we are probably 180 deg apart on our views I get on really well with him, he often raises some very good points on all subjects, and that's exactly what this board needs. Where did you meet him had he teleported over to Shanghai for his breakfast.
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Post by lastoftheldk on Oct 1, 2015 7:18:56 GMT
Seems to be trying to disguise his usual MO, not very successfully for someone who claims to be more intelligent than most other posters on the board, what a weird fucker and a fantasist of the highest order, living breathing proof that care in the community does not work , maybe Allahs left foot would be willing to take him under his wing if he can fit him in his flat that is with all those poor asylum seekers. ************** is a good guy, met him and his missus last year, and even though we are probably 180 deg apart on our views I get on really well with him, he often raises some very good points on all subjects, and that's exactly what this board needs. Yeah this board needs Cliff back
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Post by crapslinger on Oct 1, 2015 7:29:04 GMT
************** is a good guy, met him and his missus last year, and even though we are probably 180 deg apart on our views I get on really well with him, he often raises some very good points on all subjects, and that's exactly what this board needs. Yeah this board needs Cliff back He never left it
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