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Post by Discovery Stoke on Sept 28, 2015 9:29:15 GMT
It's happened for years now and it is really getting on my nerves.
From the minute 85 onwards people leave their seat early but stand in the exit of the block, creating a queue up the stairs. Which then results in people having to stand up in their seats.
The stewards I believe are to blame for this, they do absolutely nothing to move people on. If you leave you're seat then you should go, don't stand there and cause problems for everybody else!
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Post by metalhead on Sept 28, 2015 10:14:34 GMT
Before Saturday, the last two home matches had people blocking the view and ended up with fights kicking off and punches being thrown, directly in front of me. Saturday, they put a lanky steward to try and improve the situation, and it did, well sort of, but it still wasn't great.
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Post by chamberlain on Sept 28, 2015 10:22:57 GMT
They are just selfish wankers , if you are going go don't spoil it for everyone else .
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Post by midtempo on Sept 28, 2015 10:23:15 GMT
I agree the people who block the exit should be moved on as it causes a que in the gangways.
Block 21 on saturday, i saw a couple of stewards in the gangway which really helped, NOT!
As they added to the people already in the gangway and blocked the row exits for anybody who wanted to leave !!!!
Don't get me started on people who stop in the exit door to light up or use their mobile !!!!!! Just a few steps more and your out of everybody way.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Sept 28, 2015 10:31:41 GMT
If the Stewards did their job they'd make sure that anyone who leaves their seat 5 or 10 minutes early, actually does leave the stand and go at least as far as the concourse. If they did that, and did it every time, I expect that the numbers leaving their seat early would soon dwindle to the small fraction who actually do have a bus to catch or who want to exit the car parks before the final whistle - and I have no problem with anyone who wants to do that.
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Post by Squeekster on Sept 28, 2015 10:41:26 GMT
The steward in the boothen is now instructing people to keep moving on the stairs although at half time on Saturday, well what should of been half time he was on his phone while blokes were going into the stand with pints of beer.
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Post by cheadlepotter on Sept 28, 2015 10:51:27 GMT
I know it's not quite the same but to me it's like going to th cinema and watching a good movie, but leaving before the end. Fair enough, exciting endings to a match are rare, but I'd happily stay put in plenty of traffic if I'd just seen my team score an injury time winner.
That said, the pair of Bournemouth fans sat in front of us on Saturday were in a right sulk at the end, i hope they didn't find too much traffic...
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Post by metalhead on Sept 28, 2015 10:55:15 GMT
The steward in the boothen is now instructing people to keep moving on the stairs although at half time on Saturday, well what should of been half time he was on his phone while blokes were going into the stand with pints of beer. Didn't see that. The lad in 23 was just some little 9 stone wet through beanpole who wasn't going to do much. However, to his credit, he did seem to move a few people on. However one of the guys who sits a few rows in front of me told him to tell people to move. He seemed afraid to. I don't really blame him because with some fans, you add beer and stand well back. However, that doesn't mean we should all suffer. Once everyone starts standing up it just ruins it for the rest. |
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Post by Squeekster on Sept 28, 2015 11:14:19 GMT
The steward in the boothen is now instructing people to keep moving on the stairs although at half time on Saturday, well what should of been half time he was on his phone while blokes were going into the stand with pints of beer. Didn't see that. The lad in 23 was just some little 9 stone wet through beanpole who wasn't going to do much. However, to his credit, he did seem to move a few people on. However one of the guys who sits a few rows in front of me told him to tell people to move. He seemed afraid to. I don't really blame him because with some fans, you add beer and stand well back. However, that doesn't mean we should all suffer. Once everyone starts standing up it just ruins it for the rest. I'm in block 22. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2015 11:17:02 GMT
Very tame this thread, When Ive dared to mention or criticsie the pig ignorant bastards who routinely do this, in the past
I've got slaughtered
and Ive no idea why ????
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2015 11:19:42 GMT
One of the main issues is the narrowness of the aisles.
Barely enough room to walk down two abreast which naturally causes congestion. Heaven help us if there is a disaster and we need to evacuate quickly.
I don't mind if folks want to leave early, but as others have said they should be made to go to the concourse as an absolute minimum.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2015 11:26:21 GMT
They should just get out of the stadium as soon as poss. Selfish t---!
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Post by Paul Spencer on Sept 28, 2015 12:42:48 GMT
If the Stewards did their job they'd make sure that anyone who leaves their seat 5 or 10 minutes early, actually does leave the stand and go at least as far as the concourse. If they did that, and did it every time, I expect that the numbers leaving their seat early would soon dwindle to the small fraction who actually do have a bus to catch or who want to exit the car parks before the final whistle - and I have no problem with anyone who wants to do that.
I don't know what it's like in the Boothen but in the Seddon (or whatever it's currently called) stand John, about ten minutes before the end, the stewards that have been in place at the exits throughout the match suddenly all disappear.
Principally to go and start stewarding 'outside', particularly around the under pass and on and around the grass banks there.
It's like at the precise moment in the whole afternoon when their stewarding duties are especially required inside the ground, they are moved to perform duties outside the ground.
Barmy.
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Post by Northy on Sept 28, 2015 13:31:08 GMT
kill them, kill them all
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Post by sharonbeech21 on Sept 28, 2015 15:02:42 GMT
This has been a big problem for years now. When people leave their seats they should go. What are the stewards there for?When you tell a steward about them standing in the aisles they just ignore you and do nothing. My husband is disabled and against leicester we couldnt get out. Nothing will get done until someone gets hurt but its to late then. Iits an accident waiting to happen
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Post by Pugsley on Sept 28, 2015 15:14:39 GMT
The stewards haven't the bottle to move them on plus they're too busy watching the game.
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Post by kidcrewbob on Sept 28, 2015 17:04:18 GMT
I'm sure this doesn't happen (much?) in the Q-railing although I do sit in the middle of a row and don't leave early - folk who go seem to do just that I don't recall a mob standing at the entrance causing backspill up the aisle - which is what I am assuming is the problem here?
If it does I've not seen any strife over it in the last 7 or 8 years.....
Always have a laugh at those scuttling out of the Seddon from 75 mins on though........why bother coming.....??! (yeh I know it's nowt to do with me and its a free country and they can what they want etc etc etc yawn).....
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Sept 28, 2015 17:19:42 GMT
I'm sure this doesn't happen (much?) in the Q-railing although I do sit in the middle of a row and don't leave early - folk who go seem to do just that I don't recall a mob standing at the entrance causing backspill up the aisle - which is what I am assuming is the problem here? If it does I've not seen any strife over it in the last 7 or 8 years..... Always have a laugh at those scuttling out of the Seddon from 75 mins on though........why bother coming.....??! (yeh I know it's nowt to do with me and its a free country and they can what they want etc etc etc yawn)..... Well it causes a lot of strife in the Boothen. I sit by an aisle which is always full 5 minutes before the final whistle. I don't mind standing up and it is the only way I can see the goal mouth. But the old guy behind me (he's even older than me!) isn't too good on his feet and if I stand up he can't see the small amount of pitch which isn't blocked by people in the aisle. It makes me laugh that our club refuses to press for standing areas and yet won't instruct their own stewards to stop people standing in the aisles for the last few minutes of the game. There hasn't been a tragedy yet - but sooner or later there will be. If medics had to urgently get up to the back of the Boothen there is no way they would manage it in the last few minutes of the game. And we did have a chap who had to be attended to be medics late last season - luckily he collapsed early on or he might have been dead by now.  |
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Post by fortressbritannia on Sept 28, 2015 17:44:05 GMT
Do the club still show the match in the concourse?
This is surely the best way to help combat the problem. It gives those needing to make a quick exit to still catch the final few minutes while not posing a health + safety risk and not blocking the views of other supporters.
I think the club use to do this, I definitely remember watching the final 5 mins of our home game with Coventry in 06/07 because the fog had gotten that bad I couldn't really see.
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Post by no1972 on Sept 28, 2015 18:08:18 GMT
If the stewards asked people to move on because they are blocking the view of others what response would they get.If they then tried to move people on with force all hell would unfold,and this forum would be full of heavy handed stewards.There is on one section to blame and that's us the supporters especially the ones who don't give a fuck about the old and disabled who cannot stand up to watch the match over the morons heads.
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Post by norman conquest on Sept 28, 2015 18:14:38 GMT
If someone reports it to the council and the council inform the club about all sorts of h and s issues and a threat of safety certs being withdrawn you can bet your last sheckle something would be done
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2015 19:09:00 GMT
They really are pig ignorant bastards. Don't they know that other people need to get out quickly to beat the rush on the car parks?
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Post by monkeymagic on Sept 28, 2015 19:27:33 GMT
Blimey -Some people will moan about anything!!
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Post by staffordpotter78 on Sept 28, 2015 19:34:36 GMT
I've had several arguments with people about it, selfish fans, lazy gutless stewards and even to the ground safety manager via email. And the grand total of f##k all has changed, would Malcolm Clarke be the man to help?
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Post by ukcstokie on Sept 28, 2015 19:49:54 GMT
My dad and brother sit by the aisle on the back row of the front block. Have done since the 2nd year after the Brit opened. As the OP says, people leaving just stopping the aisle blocking their view. My dad is in his 80's, my brother suffers from arthritis and sometimes can barely walk. The people who do this are really selfish bastards.
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Post by harryh157 on Sept 28, 2015 20:04:12 GMT
While agreeing entirely with the sentiment of the thread (and not an early leaver myself) it always surprises me how long it takes to get vehicles away from the stadium. We are not in a residential area and have two dual carriageways surrounding us. I'm sure it's more difficult than I think and brighter people than me have looked at it but if we could clear the car parks quicker this would remove the temptation to leave early.
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Post by kidcrewbob on Sept 28, 2015 20:10:49 GMT
Have to say that it would drive me up the wall if that were happening where we sit - it's also not realistic to expect spotty stewards to act as enforcers especially in the Boothen where it can kick off at the drop of a hat
Only the club can sort it - get some letters of complaint in - threaten them with small claims action from you being prevented from consuming what you have paid for and keep on at them week in and out until they do something. Take some photos to show that your view is blocked at a key point in the match.......
As someone suggested above - pipe the match into the concourses for the last 10 mins although suspect we would fall foul of Prem rules re live "broadcasts"....
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Post by capto on Sept 28, 2015 20:21:30 GMT
I'm sure h&s say they shouldn't stand in the aisle - anyroad, standing isnt allowed is it.
The stewards would be committing suicide if they tried to get these idiots moving.
Doesn't the club rules say no standing in the aisles?
If your view is blocked by people standing, if enough people took photos, as proof, and emailed the club, maybe they would have to take action? A picture paints a thousand words etc. also, once they're informed of the problem, and it's against rules, they can't ignore it in case something goes wrong in the future.
So, if it is a problem, take it further - it won't happen overnight, I remember it was months before the smoking in the bogs at half time was sorted!!?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2015 20:24:54 GMT
The problem is really down to our ignorant fans who will not listen to reason or requests to move. I was a steward for a few years and worked in the same place most match days and got to know some of the regulars. It's very easy to blame the stewards for not sorting it out but if folk ignore them and they try and eject somebody the old "thug" stewards at it again comes out and there ends up some sort of confrontation. Do that yourself for £25 for 5 hrs work being the constant focus point for abuse then some may have an understanding of how shit a job it is. You only have to look at fans who intervene it most of the time ends in tears.
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Post by kidcrewbob on Sept 28, 2015 20:30:16 GMT
The problem is really down to our ignorant fans who will not listen to reason or requests to move. I was a steward for a few years and worked in the same place most match days and got to know some of the regulars. It's very easy to blame the stewards for not sorting it out but if folk ignore them and they try and eject somebody the old "thug" stewards at it again comes out and there ends up some sort of confrontation. Do that yourself for £25 for 5 hrs work being the constant focus point for abuse then some may have an understanding of how shit a job it is. You only have to look at fans who intervene it most of the time ends in tears. Spot on - as stated only the club can sort it like the bog smoking example given above - hand out a few bans to focus minds..... |
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