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Post by steve66 on Sept 9, 2015 18:31:39 GMT
By my estimate a mid-size defeat (2-0) which is about par for this game would leave us second bottom but ahead of Sunderland on alphabetical order, anything worse and we go bottom. Should the unthinkable happen then here are the questions hanging in the autumnal air: *Will Mark Hughes spontaneously combust in the post match interview? *Will the message board go in to meltdown? *Will pwingy be on my case for posting this at all? (I'll answer that one for you, it's YES with bells on!!) *Will an air of prevailing calm remain and in no time we will be mid table again with back to back home wins against hapless Bournemouth and Leicester? *Having warned us and warned us will Benjy contemplate the futility of his existence? *Is it right to ask this difficult hypothetical question at all, it may never happen? In my experience its best to talk these things through up front, if it never happens then great but if it does we are that much better prepared, both mentally and physically Of course if we lose on Saturday we are surely doomed to certain relegation, spiralling out of control straight down to league two and eventually the conference, no way we can turn this scenario around as there are just 33 more games left and we won't win any of those either.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Sept 9, 2015 18:43:33 GMT
We won't because I'm playing. We will win.
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Post by Titan Uranus on Sept 9, 2015 18:55:51 GMT
Think we've all been a bit smug leading up to the season start. 8th place predicted and all that. Our esrly season results and Ryan's operation has pissed on the bonfire somewhat. Also the lack of further activity in the window, particularly the failure to land a defensive midfielder ( I predicted we would go after Jedi weeks ago) has added to the gloom. Make no mistake the next two home games are crucial to the state of mind of both players and fans. Anything less than 3 points from the next 4 games spells trouble.
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Post by march4 on Sept 9, 2015 19:17:23 GMT
Nobody has ever been relegated in September so dunna worry , if it was the end of March then yes we would b screwed We would indeed be screwed if it was the end of me. I'm like the ravens at the Tower of London.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Sept 9, 2015 19:30:13 GMT
Nobody has ever been relegated in September so dunna worry , if it was the end of March then yes we would b screwed We would indeed be screwed if it was the end of me. I'm like the ravens at the Tower of London. Frequently expelling shit everywhere Love you Marchy.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Sept 9, 2015 19:31:47 GMT
Nobody has ever been relegated in September so dunna worry , if it was the end of March then yes we would b screwed We would indeed be screwed if it was the end of me. I'm like the ravens at the Tower of London. Strike one of you down and a thousand more shall rise up and say with one voice "full backs are just wannabe wingers".
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Post by StokieNath on Sept 9, 2015 19:33:24 GMT
By my estimate a mid-size defeat (2-0) which is about par for this game would leave us second bottom but ahead of Sunderland on alphabetical order, anything worse and we go bottom. Should the unthinkable happen then here are the questions hanging in the autumnal air: *Will Mark Hughes spontaneously combust in the post match interview? *Will the message board go in to meltdown? *Will pwingy be on my case for posting this at all? (I'll answer that one for you, it's YES with bells on!!) *Will an air of prevailing calm remain and in no time we will be mid table again with back to back home wins against hapless Bournemouth and Leicester? *Having warned us and warned us will Benjy contemplate the futility of his existence? *Is it right to ask this difficult hypothetical question at all, it may never happen? In my experience its best to talk these things through up front, if it never happens then great but if it does we are that much better prepared, both mentally and physically . We should expect an arse whipping, we always lose at their soulless bowl. COYP
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2015 19:37:34 GMT
I think we are not a lot better off at the moment and Arsenal is an expected defeat , no one has counted this game amongst the "Get some points here" games.
So for me what is important is we look like a decent side and show a lot more attacking threat than we have done thus far.
A bit less of Jacks heroics would be good for my "SHATTERED NERVES" but in all honesty this is one game I would be more than happy with a draw.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2015 19:38:44 GMT
Simple. We move on to Leicester and Bournemouth, get 6 points and sit laughing at those that look at the table with any seriousness in September.
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Post by stokiejoe on Sept 9, 2015 20:00:11 GMT
Simple. We move on to Leicester and Bournemouth, get 6 points and sit laughing at those that look at the table with any seriousness in September. The right answer
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Post by Gods on Sept 9, 2015 20:22:08 GMT
Think we've all been a bit smug leading up to the season start. 8th place predicted and all that. Our esrly season results and Ryan's operation has pissed on the bonfire somewhat. Also the lack of further activity in the window, particularly the failure to land a defensive midfielder ( I predicted we would go after Jedi weeks ago) has added to the gloom. Make no mistake the next two home games are crucial to the state of mind of both players and fans. Anything less than 3 points from the next 4 games spells trouble. I agree with most of that except you don't mean 3 points from the next 4 games would be okay do you? It would leave is with 5 points from the first possible 24 which would not be too clever!
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Post by Old School Stokie on Sept 9, 2015 20:51:02 GMT
we will remain bottom until we start winning. Stupid question.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Sept 9, 2015 21:40:46 GMT
Look at another way if we win , Sorro and his gang will be on saying
Take that benji you negative cunt fuck off up the vale albeit I wont care because we've won
Why therefore would you expect me not to express genuinely held concern that in the likely event of a heavy defeat my reservations about a weaker first 11 are bring further justified .
As stated on the moss thread I'm expecting Stoke nil and arsenal on a spread between 3 and 7
Equally I dint expect us to beat leicster or Bournemouth so they every opportunity to reply with interest .
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Post by malteser68 on Sept 9, 2015 21:53:58 GMT
Hopefully what will happen if we go bottom on Saturday is that people will be sensible and treat it as lately irrelevant given we're five games into a 38-game season. But it's not irrelevant ! It has a relevance quotient of 5/38
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Post by Pugsley on Sept 9, 2015 21:59:31 GMT
So are we saying Saturday is must win game or it doesn't matter one iota?
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Post by davejohnno1 on Sept 9, 2015 22:13:53 GMT
Look at another way if we win , Sorro and his gang will be on saying Take that benji you negative cunt fuck off up the vale albeit I wont care because we've won Why therefore would you expect me not to express genuinely held concern that in the likely event of a heavy defeat my reservations about a weaker first 11 are bring further justified . As stated on the moss thread I'm expecting Stoke nil and arsenal on a spread between 3 and 7 Equally I dint expect us to beat leicster or Bournemouth so they every opportunity to reply with interest . Isn't that called "hedging your bets"? Predict impending doom and relegation scraps then revel in it if it happens or, as is more likely, shrug your shoulders, say how delighted you are to be wrong, then repeat the same drivel again the following season.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 9, 2015 22:17:58 GMT
So are we saying Saturday is must win game or it doesn't matter one iota? The two homes games after I'd say are must win.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Sept 9, 2015 22:24:04 GMT
Interesting that the two home games are Seen as must win . Presumably if we don't then suddenly the mess we are in becomes reality as opposed to the figment of the imagination of the alleged doom mongerers .
I've aod for a whiiel nothing I've seen says we will beat either but I hope I'm wrong because of we don't take at least 3 points the situation. Will be very serious .
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Post by JoeinOz on Sept 9, 2015 22:30:18 GMT
Interesting that the two home games are Seen as must win . Presumably if we don't then suddenly the mess we are in becomes reality as opposed to the figment of the imagination of the alleged doom mongerers . I've aod for a whiiel nothing I've seen says we will beat either but I hope I'm wrong because of we don't take at least 3 points the situation. Will be very serious . If we go bottom Satdee there will be warning sent out to make sure nobody drowns in the jizz you involuntarily emit.
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Post by peterthornesboots on Sept 9, 2015 22:47:50 GMT
By my estimate a mid-size defeat (2-0) which is about par for this game would leave us second bottom but ahead of Sunderland on alphabetical order, anything worse and we go bottom. Should the unthinkable happen then here are the questions hanging in the autumnal air: *Will Mark Hughes spontaneously combust in the post match interview? *Will the message board go in to meltdown? *Will pwingy be on my case for posting this at all? (I'll answer that one for you, it's YES with bells on!!) *Will an air of prevailing calm remain and in no time we will be mid table again with back to back home wins against hapless Bournemouth and Leicester? *Having warned us and warned us will Benjy contemplate the futility of his existence? *Is it right to ask this difficult hypothetical question at all, it may never happen? In my experience its best to talk these things through up front, if it never happens then great but if it does we are that much better prepared, both mentally and physically Losing to Arsenal wouldn't be too much to worry about. However, if we don't pick up at least 4 points from our next two home games then you all have my permission to panic!
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Post by Gods on Sept 9, 2015 22:58:46 GMT
Hopefully what will happen if we go bottom on Saturday is that people will be sensible and treat it as lately irrelevant given we're five games into a 38-game season. But it's not irrelevant ! It has a relevance quotient of 5/38 Thank you, someone gets it! It's like taking a 7 question exam and screwing the first question up. It's not unrecoverable but it sure as heck wasn't a smart thing to do, and if you were hoping an A* then all bets are already off. That's the measure of it, far from terminal, but not great, most of all you have to hope its not indicative of how you might perform in the other 6 questions
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Sept 9, 2015 23:08:18 GMT
But it's not irrelevant ! It has a relevance quotient of 5/38 Thank you, someone gets it! It's like taking a 7 question exam and screwing the first question up. It's not unrecoverable but it sure as heck wasn't a smart thing to do, and if you were hoping an A* then all bets are already off. That's the measure of it, far from terminal, but not great, most of all you have to hope its not indicative of how you might perform in the other 6 questions It's ok... we'll be better in the second half of the exam. mmmmmmm.
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Post by StokieNath on Sept 9, 2015 23:10:13 GMT
Well, should we lose.......
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Post by mailman44 on Sept 10, 2015 1:01:41 GMT
What I can't quite get my head around is why you seem to have decided that we won't be fine? There's as much chance we will as we won't? Oh and it's because half of the current back 4 can't defend and the central midfield is pretty piss weak and is only showing slow signs of improvement but I do have a bit of faith in MVG. The right hand side of the defence though? Nah. Who is on the right hand side that concerns you the most?
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Post by danzim on Sept 10, 2015 3:24:01 GMT
Well whatever about going into the week bottom but I have plonked a tenner on us winning on saturday for a return of 110. Insane value if you ask me....
Sent from my SM-G900I using proboards
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Post by stokemanusa on Sept 10, 2015 3:37:13 GMT
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Post by heavysoul on Sept 10, 2015 6:50:05 GMT
We will be fine. First half of the season is always tough. Hughes teams are usually stronger in the second half of the season. (Except QPR)
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Post by ohbottom on Sept 10, 2015 7:22:41 GMT
If we go bottom I'll have to change my name
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Post by Titan Uranus on Sept 10, 2015 7:35:25 GMT
Think we've all been a bit smug leading up to the season start. 8th place predicted and all that. Our esrly season results and Ryan's operation has pissed on the bonfire somewhat. Also the lack of further activity in the window, particularly the failure to land a defensive midfielder ( I predicted we would go after Jedi weeks ago) has added to the gloom. Make no mistake the next two home games are crucial to the state of mind of both players and fans. Anything less than 3 points from the next 4 games spells trouble. I agree with most of that except you don't mean 3 points from the next 4 games would be okay do you? It would leave is with 5 points from the first possible 24 which would not be too clever! Yeh.... I actually meant to say from the next three games actually. It's all a load of bollocks anyway as we all know.... Think we all realise though that these two home games coming up could define the season. They are that important. Two draws for example, in my opinion, is simply not good enough. Let's hope the boys surprise us on Saturday with a long overdue win at the Arse. Think we could nick a 1-1 draw.
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Post by Kjones9 on Sept 10, 2015 7:36:41 GMT
With all your talk of tall men, eating cock and 'going bottom' gods is there something that you need to share with the group?
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