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Post by partickpotter on Sept 6, 2015 17:57:00 GMT
Is Harry German? He's superior. To anti semites like you certainly Stoke Harry über alles... Has a certain ring to it. Sieg Harry!
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Post by stokeharry on Sept 6, 2015 18:07:51 GMT
To anti semites like you certainly Stoke Harry über alles... Has a certain ring to it. Sieg Harry!
I'll wear it as a badge on honour
Untermensch
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Post by derrida1437 on Sept 6, 2015 22:20:22 GMT
The utter genius of Stewart Lee....."Why we shouldn't make fun of the UKIPpers."
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Post by desman2 on Sept 6, 2015 22:23:38 GMT
The utter genius of Stewart Lee....."Why we shouldn't make fun of the UKIPpers." That guy is about as funny as a garden fork through the groin.
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Post by stokeharry on Sept 6, 2015 22:31:23 GMT
The utter genius of Stewart Lee....."Why we shouldn't make fun of the UKIPpers." That guy is about as funny as a garden fork through the groin. Looks like tom hanks Never heard of him , never seen him before and can't be arsed to open the link / video but I could image his childish sense of "humour" if he's a lefty Bless em
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Post by derrida1437 on Sept 6, 2015 22:33:31 GMT
The utter genius of Stewart Lee....."Why we shouldn't make fun of the UKIPpers." That guy is about as funny as a garden fork through the groin. A horticultural experience you'll not be repeating presumably.
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Post by partickpotter on Sept 7, 2015 5:40:18 GMT
Stoke Harry über alles... Has a certain ring to it. Sieg Harry!
I'll wear it as a badge on honour
Untermensch
If the cap fits...
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Sept 7, 2015 6:46:50 GMT
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Post by stokeharry on Sept 7, 2015 6:46:50 GMT
I'll wear it as a badge on honour
Untermensch
If the cap fits... You should wear it being an anti semite and all
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Sept 7, 2015 8:31:35 GMT
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Post by ukcstokie on Sept 7, 2015 8:39:10 GMT
The utter genius of Stewart Lee....."Why we shouldn't make fun of the UKIPpers." After listening to about half of that I didn't laugh once, and there weren't any valid credible points. Well, not until the advert for Hewlett-Packard came on anyway.
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Post by stoneroses on Sept 7, 2015 9:34:35 GMT
Cameron had this one opportunity to gain some value ground on immigration .....and blew it without a moments fucking thought or hesitation . Aided and abetted by William 'Tory boy ' Hague . Absolutely pathetic . UKIP will gain another 4 million voters on this one decision at the next election ...make no mistake . I can not see UKIP benefiting from this at all, standing there cold and hard in stance will not suffice when the whole country is showing empathy and willingness to help. Not that they could do any worse in a future elections but i do feel people will become more dis-engaged with them especially those who sit on the fence of who to vote for. On the other hand UKIP supporters will be falling deeper into the mist, more viscous than ever in the words. As always mumf your views come across as outdated as a lava lamp!!
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Post by boothenboy75 on Sept 7, 2015 16:15:06 GMT
Cameron had this one opportunity to gain some value ground on immigration .....and blew it without a moments fucking thought or hesitation . Aided and abetted by William 'Tory boy ' Hague . Absolutely pathetic . UKIP will gain another 4 million voters on this one decision at the next election ...make no mistake . I can not see UKIP benefiting from this at all, standing there cold and hard in stance will not suffice when the whole country is showing empathy and willingness to help. Not that they could do any worse in a future elections but i do feel people will become more dis-engaged with them especially those who sit on the fence of who to vote for. On the other hand UKIP supporters will be falling deeper into the mist, more viscous than ever in the words. As always mumf your views come across as outdated as a lava lamp!! Watching the BBC and reading the Guardian that would seem the obvious conclusion. Opinion polls show though that the vast majority of the British public believe Cameron is doing a much better job than Merkel and nearly a third of people saying we should accept 0 refugees. Having sympathy and empathy for people isn't quite the same as throwing open your front door and giving up your bedroom. Perhaps inviting immigrants to set sail on a dingy across the med, in order to get asylum, is actually leading to many, including children, of them being killed? Or is that just the vicious UKIP view?
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Post by stayingupfor GermanStokie on Sept 7, 2015 18:05:56 GMT
I'm tired of all this...
By all means there should be the opportunity to really ensure refugees are given the opportunities to escape the "bullets and pain" of Syria however that should not be at a free for all that some are proposing.
The scenes carefully exploited by the media to promote the care and share attitude are severely missing the crux. Hungary seems to be flavour of the month showing scenes of young men and women (with child) screaming to be let into Germany... Surely we should do so?? Especially when the majority are NOT Syrian!
No we shouldn't!! Controlled Migration should be such so that we do not upset the economic and social balance of the country. What they don't show you is the mass resources being channeled into the East European nations to support refugees including food, shelter etc. Of course it is taking its time but it will happen. The refugees are being looked after and resources are starting to get through... But look at the response! "We want to go to Germany because of jobs etc etc".... What???? Surely the point is safety first and then try and help long term with proper set ups etc etc... I concur that once the safety of the EU is reached then the schengen rule should not be readily opened... It should be utilised once the process is in place... Yes, let's help.... But let's not be slapdash about this!
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Post by derrida1437 on Sept 7, 2015 23:12:41 GMT
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Post by samba :) on Sept 7, 2015 23:21:29 GMT
some major countries missing there
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Post by ukcstokie on Sept 7, 2015 23:38:52 GMT
some major countries missing there At least we've only given 10 times as much as the French.
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Sept 7, 2015 23:39:53 GMT
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Post by samba :) on Sept 7, 2015 23:39:53 GMT
some major countries missing there At least we've only given 10 times as much as the French. new Zealand Canada Brazil are loaded Portugal
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Post by derrida1437 on Sept 8, 2015 8:06:16 GMT
some major countries missing there Absolutely. It's a proxy war.
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Post by ukcstokie on Sept 8, 2015 9:39:11 GMT
I'm tired of all this... By all means there should be the opportunity to really ensure refugees are given the opportunities to escape the "bullets and pain" of Syria however that should not be at a free for all that some are proposing. The scenes carefully exploited by the media to promote the care and share attitude are severely missing the crux. Hungary seems to be flavour of the month showing scenes of young men and women (with child) screaming to be let into Germany... Surely we should do so?? Especially when the majority are NOT Syrian!
No we shouldn't!! Controlled Migration should be such so that we do not upset the economic and social balance of the country. What they don't show you is the mass resources being channeled into the East European nations to support refugees including food, shelter etc. Of course it is taking its time but it will happen. The refugees are being looked after and resources are starting to get through... But look at the response! "We want to go to Germany because of jobs etc etc".... What???? Surely the point is safety first and then try and help long term with proper set ups etc etc... I concur that once the safety of the EU is reached then the schengen rule should not be readily opened... It should be utilised once the process is in place... Yes, let's help.... But let's not be slapdash about this! Is this right? Are most of the refugees not Syrian?
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Post by stayingupfor GermanStokie on Sept 8, 2015 10:19:02 GMT
I'm tired of all this... By all means there should be the opportunity to really ensure refugees are given the opportunities to escape the "bullets and pain" of Syria however that should not be at a free for all that some are proposing. The scenes carefully exploited by the media to promote the care and share attitude are severely missing the crux. Hungary seems to be flavour of the month showing scenes of young men and women (with child) screaming to be let into Germany... Surely we should do so?? Especially when the majority are NOT Syrian!
No we shouldn't!! Controlled Migration should be such so that we do not upset the economic and social balance of the country. What they don't show you is the mass resources being channeled into the East European nations to support refugees including food, shelter etc. Of course it is taking its time but it will happen. The refugees are being looked after and resources are starting to get through... But look at the response! "We want to go to Germany because of jobs etc etc".... What???? Surely the point is safety first and then try and help long term with proper set ups etc etc... I concur that once the safety of the EU is reached then the schengen rule should not be readily opened... It should be utilised once the process is in place... Yes, let's help.... But let's not be slapdash about this! Is this right? Are most of the refugees not Syrian? Please look at the information below (Eurodata): Whilst there is a significant number of Syrian refugees, the numbers have been consistant throughout the rolling period and will do so again this Quarter. Note the 28% decrease in numbers against 2014 and whilst this has been reversed (only a slight % increase in the last Quarter according to preliminary reports) it is not in the figures that the media are making you think. Note the sharp increase in Balkan state citizens and that trend is also continuing to the last quarter. In fact, the named Balkan States below made for 32% of the applications (Syrian was 18%) and the trend continues increasingly to this day. I may sound slightly off, but don't forget that Serbia, Albania, Kosovo etc have a large ethnic muslim population and the media pictures of ladies with hijabs are not necessarily from Syria. It is a point of note that the cry for "Germany" is from a populace that have been the largest net migrators into Germany itself. It used to be Turkey that were the largest, but increasingly it is Balkan state citizens and I feel the Syrian situation is being exploited as a "way in".
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Post by boothenboy75 on Sept 8, 2015 15:36:07 GMT
Is this right? Are most of the refugees not Syrian? Please look at the information below (Eurodata): Whilst there is a significant number of Syrian refugees, the numbers have been consistant throughout the rolling period and will do so again this Quarter. Note the 28% decrease in numbers against 2014 and whilst this has been reversed (only a slight % increase in the last Quarter according to preliminary reports) it is not in the figures that the media are making you think. Note the sharp increase in Balkan state citizens and that trend is also continuing to the last quarter. In fact, the named Balkan States below made for 32% of the applications (Syrian was 18%) and the trend continues increasingly to this day. I may sound slightly off, but don't forget that Serbia, Albania, Kosovo etc have a large ethnic muslim population and the media pictures of ladies with hijabs are not necessarily from Syria. It is a point of note that the cry for "Germany" is from a populace that have been the largest net migrators into Germany itself. It used to be Turkey that were the largest, but increasingly it is Balkan state citizens and I feel the Syrian situation is being exploited as a "way in". The figures into the UK are just as unusual. In 2014 the country "sending" the 2nd highest number of asylum seekers to the UK was Pakistan, making up over 10% of the total. Strange how a country 1000's of miles away, on a separate continant and that's not at war could be responsible for such a high percentage of genuine refugees.
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Post by stokeharry on Sept 8, 2015 16:25:52 GMT
Please look at the information below (Eurodata): Whilst there is a significant number of Syrian refugees, the numbers have been consistant throughout the rolling period and will do so again this Quarter. Note the 28% decrease in numbers against 2014 and whilst this has been reversed (only a slight % increase in the last Quarter according to preliminary reports) it is not in the figures that the media are making you think. Note the sharp increase in Balkan state citizens and that trend is also continuing to the last quarter. In fact, the named Balkan States below made for 32% of the applications (Syrian was 18%) and the trend continues increasingly to this day. I may sound slightly off, but don't forget that Serbia, Albania, Kosovo etc have a large ethnic muslim population and the media pictures of ladies with hijabs are not necessarily from Syria. It is a point of note that the cry for "Germany" is from a populace that have been the largest net migrators into Germany itself. It used to be Turkey that were the largest, but increasingly it is Balkan state citizens and I feel the Syrian situation is being exploited as a "way in". The figures into the UK are just as unusual. In 2014 the country "sending" the 2nd highest number of asylum seekers to the UK was Pakistan, making up over 10% of the total. Strange how a country 1000's of miles away, on a separate continant and that's not at war could be responsible for such a high percentage of genuine refugees. Anyone would think that they are trying to islamify the UK and bring as many over as they can in an attempt at changing the demographics and character of the nation thus leading to an Islamic state by default . ...I don't think that though, I think that they are all model citizens that can do no wrong that only want to fit in and contribute to society ;-)
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Post by derrida1437 on Sept 8, 2015 18:07:13 GMT
I'm tired of all this... By all means there should be the opportunity to really ensure refugees are given the opportunities to escape the "bullets and pain" of Syria however that should not be at a free for all that some are proposing. The scenes carefully exploited by the media to promote the care and share attitude are severely missing the crux. Hungary seems to be flavour of the month showing scenes of young men and women (with child) screaming to be let into Germany... Surely we should do so?? Especially when the majority are NOT Syrian!
No we shouldn't!! Controlled Migration should be such so that we do not upset the economic and social balance of the country. What they don't show you is the mass resources being channeled into the East European nations to support refugees including food, shelter etc. Of course it is taking its time but it will happen. The refugees are being looked after and resources are starting to get through... But look at the response! "We want to go to Germany because of jobs etc etc".... What???? Surely the point is safety first and then try and help long term with proper set ups etc etc... I concur that once the safety of the EU is reached then the schengen rule should not be readily opened... It should be utilised once the process is in place... Yes, let's help.... But let's not be slapdash about this! Is this right? Are most of the refugees not Syrian? The full article on EU immigration. Tons of stats on there. The largest immigrant grouping of refugees are Syrian. You can see the charts on the below link yourself. "Asylum applicants from Syria rose to 122 thousand in the EU-28 in 2014, which equated to 20 % of the total from all non-member countries. Afghani citizens accounted for 7 % of the total, while Kosovans and Eritrean citizens accounted for 6 % and Serbians for 5 %. Among the 30 main groups of citizenship of asylum applicants in the EU-28 in 2014, by far the largest relative increase compared to 2013 was recorded for individuals from Ukraine.... ...Syrians accounted for the highest number of applicants in 11 of the 28 EU Member States, including 41 thousand applicants in Germany (the highest number of applicants from a single country to one of the EU Member States in 2014) and 31 thousand applicants in Sweden." ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php/Asylum_statistics
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Post by desman2 on Sept 8, 2015 21:12:30 GMT
Looks like some of the German population are getting restless about all this.
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Post by stokeharry on Sept 8, 2015 21:21:07 GMT
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Post by ukcstokie on Sept 8, 2015 22:57:01 GMT
You have to wonder how the German population will react to this? They may have a degree more tolerance than us Brits (and that's a maybe), but half a million refugees a year for several years? There will be a reaction that will surely grow if they continue with this. I have to say that I fear what the reaction will be given time. The last Euro elections demonstrated ( the rise of the 'right') that large numbers of people in Europe have had enough. How many more will join them? Also, if Merkel expects us to take a similar level of refugees then she is in for a shock. Europe just can't take this. I doubt Germany can either.
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Post by stokeharry on Sept 8, 2015 23:07:58 GMT
You have to wonder how the German population will react to this? They may have a degree more tolerance than us Brits (and that's a maybe), but half a million refugees a year for several years? There will be a reaction that will surely grow if they continue with this. I have to say that I fear what the reaction will be given time. The last Euro elections demonstrated ( the rise of the 'right') that large numbers of people in Europe have had enough. How many more will join them? Also, if Merkel expects us to take a similar level of refugees then she is in for a shock. Europe just can't take this. I doubt Germany can either. I dont think they are more tolerant mate . I think it's more a case of the so called "tolerant" ones are the ones that the biased media is focusing on and the ones that are making the most noise . I imagine most ordinary Germans won't be very happy about this situation. It's like when the media refer to us Brits as tolerant and welcoming :/ many of us AREN'T tolerant and welcoming , I certainly aren't but that's how the media want us to be and they think that if they say it enough times it will be true . If the non British population in these Isles was around 5-10% then I dare say I'd be much more tolerant and much more understanding but lets get real the actual figures are much higher than that. Entire streets and towns and city's have been taken over by "aliens" and that I will NOT tolerate and I know plenty of Germans aren't happy with cretin parts of their country looking more like Turkey . There will be trouble ahead mate , Germany , France and the UK will lead the way when Europe starts to fight back.
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Sept 8, 2015 23:24:39 GMT
Too right mate.
The media are focusing all their attention on a certain section of society, who at the moment, are welcoming the migrants/refugees.
But there is another section of society who are not so enthusiastic.
The so-called 'Silent Majority'.
Because the reality is that most people don't want any more immigration.
They're fed up with walking around listening to foriegn accents and foriegn languages in their OWN COUNTRY.
Walk round Hanley in the day..spot the English accent.
English people are no more racist than any other people..in the UK women have equal rights with men..which is a lot more than they would get in muslim countries.
Because the reality is that a huge number of people who have come to live in Britain will NOT integrate with British peoples culture/religion/values etc and anyone who points this out is labelled 'Racist'
But we've all had enough. Enough of white English people being treated like second class citizens in their own country forever having to apologise for being English.
Being labelled 'racist' for celebrating St Georges Day?
Some English people just don't like English people do they?
And they don't like England.
Criticsm of your Country is one thing..but Hatred is another.
It's just not fucking on.
No one can accuse me of being Racist..just read my posts over the last 10 years on here..but I am sick and tired of seeing English people at the end of the que..and being made to feel like they don't belong in their own country.
This time Politicians have gone too far.
Well they need to fucking wake up.
They are sitting on a time bomb and sooner or later it will explode.
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Post by ukcstokie on Sept 8, 2015 23:25:14 GMT
You have to wonder how the German population will react to this? They may have a degree more tolerance than us Brits (and that's a maybe), but half a million refugees a year for several years? There will be a reaction that will surely grow if they continue with this. I have to say that I fear what the reaction will be given time. The last Euro elections demonstrated ( the rise of the 'right') that large numbers of people in Europe have had enough. How many more will join them? Also, if Merkel expects us to take a similar level of refugees then she is in for a shock. Europe just can't take this. I doubt Germany can either. I dont think they are more tolerant mate . I think it's more a case of the so called "tolerant" ones are the ones that the biased media is focusing on and the ones that are making the most noise . I imagine most ordinary Germans won't be very happy about this situation. It's like when the media refer to us Brits as tolerant and welcoming :/ many of us AREN'T tolerant and welcoming , I certainly aren't but that's how the media want us to be and they think that if they say it enough times it will be true . If the non British population in these Isles was around 5-10% then I dare say I'd be much more tolerant and much more understanding but lets get real the actual figures are much higher than that. Entire streets and towns and city's have been taken over by "aliens" and that I will NOT tolerate and I know plenty of Germans aren't happy with cretin parts of their country looking more like Turkey . There will be trouble ahead mate , Germany , France and the UK will lead the way when Europe starts to fight back. They seem to think that the more people that come here (Britain/Germany/Europe/...) that the closer that we're getting to the left's desire for some multicultural utopia. If I witnessed any evidence of that then all would be fine. We're heading for troubled waters and the sad thing is that those in charge must know this.
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Post by ukcstokie on Sept 8, 2015 23:28:25 GMT
Too right mate. The media are focusing all their attention on a certain section of society, who at the moment, are welcoming the migrants/refugees. But there is another section of society who are not so enthusiastic. The so-called 'Silent Majority'. Because the reality is that most people don't want any more immigration. They're fed up with walking around listening to foriegn accents and foriegn languages in their OWN COUNTRY. Walk round Hanley in the day..spot the English accent. English people are no more racist than any other people..in the UK women have equal rights with men..which is a lot more than they would get in muslim countries. But we've all had enough. And this time Politicians have gone too far. They are sitting on a time bomb and sooner or later it will explode. I want Huddy/Followyoudow/Sheiky/Derrida to tell us why we're wrong and why we shouldn't be worried. Unfortunately they'll just tell us we're wrong.
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