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Post by padders01 on Sept 1, 2015 16:01:20 GMT
Thought they might just get one game
Oh well gives others a chance to get into the team
Out until 26th Setpember
Shaq and Arnie on the wings??
If Walters leaves then we don't have any cover do we? Odemwinge injured for 2/3 weeks
Apologises if this has been mentioned elsewhere
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Sept 1, 2015 16:04:28 GMT
If the charge was violent conduct then I thought 3 game ban was automatic?
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Post by padders01 on Sept 1, 2015 16:05:44 GMT
If the charge was violent conduct then I thought 3 game ban was automatic? Yes you are right |
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Post by Olgrligm on Sept 1, 2015 16:05:45 GMT
If the charge was violent conduct then I thought 3 game ban was automatic? I was going to say that. No chance of an appeal, either. |
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Post by penkvillepotter on Sept 1, 2015 16:06:09 GMT
3 games . Affellay should have knocked him out.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Sept 1, 2015 16:07:08 GMT
If the charge was violent conduct then I thought 3 game ban was automatic? It is! I never expected anything other than 3 game bans. I may not agree with the rules but the rules don't really leave any room for argument once the referee has failed to use his discretion and, instead, has produced the cards. |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Sept 1, 2015 16:07:09 GMT
Thought they might just get one game Oh well gives others a chance to get into the team Out until 26th Setpember Shaq and Arnie on the wings?? If Walters leaves then we don't have any cover do we? Odemwinge injured for 2/3 weeks Apologises if this has been mentioned elsewhere I'm surprised we haven't appealed Adams red card given the clear description the linesman gave to the ref. Any news on retrospective punishment for Gardner? |
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Post by Paddypotter on Sept 1, 2015 16:07:59 GMT
We're hardly short on CM's Whelan, Ireland, Ginkel, Sidwell, Bojan, Moha and Shenton.
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Post by numpty40 on Sept 1, 2015 16:10:14 GMT
Not overly concerned to be honest.
Can't help thinking Afellay slows down the build up by continually cutting inside and playing safe easy passes.
Adam will be a miss from the bench.
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Post by dozintheseventees on Sept 1, 2015 16:10:26 GMT
Thought they might just get one game Oh well gives others a chance to get into the team Out until 26th Setpember Shaq and Arnie on the wings?? If Walters leaves then we don't have any cover do we? Odemwinge injured for 2/3 weeks Apologises if this has been mentioned elsewhere I'm surprised we haven't appealed Adams red card given the clear description the linesman gave to the ref. Any news on retrospective punishment for Gardner? Can only happen if the ref didn't see what hapenned. He saw it and booked Gardner so retrospective action not possible. |
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Post by desman2 on Sept 1, 2015 16:15:03 GMT
I'm surprised we haven't appealed Adams red card given the clear description the linesman gave to the ref. Any news on retrospective punishment for Gardner? Can only happen if the ref didn't see what hapenned. He saw it and booked Gardner so retrospective action not possible. Thats whats pissing everyone off. He saw two do the same thing and only flashed red to one. |
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Post by Ayupshag on Sept 1, 2015 16:15:07 GMT
3 games . Affellay should have knocked him out. If I was Hughes I would tell them to do that next time. Instead of flickin fingers at them just knock their teeth out if your goin do anything |
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Post by jarvinski on Sept 1, 2015 16:15:35 GMT
I'm sick of saying it ....we are very UNDISCIPLINED, any body who thinks charlie adam accidentely stood on his leg needs help
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Post by Davef on Sept 1, 2015 16:17:29 GMT
I'm surprised we haven't appealed Adams red card given the clear description the linesman gave to the ref. Any news on retrospective punishment for Gardner? Can only happen if the ref didn't see what hapenned. He saw it and booked Gardner so retrospective action not possible. Gardner was booked for the trip on Afellay, so he's either seen the slap on Afellay and deemed it not worthy of punishment or he's not seen it, in which case it could be considered worthy of retrospective action. |
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Post by jeycov on Sept 1, 2015 16:18:17 GMT
I'm surprised we haven't appealed Adams red card given the clear description the linesman gave to the ref. Any news on retrospective punishment for Gardner? Can only happen if the ref didn't see what hapenned. He saw it and booked Gardner so retrospective action not possible. I don't think there will be any further action unless he booked him for the tackle and missed the flick in the face |
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Post by dozintheseventees on Sept 1, 2015 16:18:38 GMT
I'm sick of saying it ....we are very UNDISCIPLINED, any body who thinks charlie adam accidentely stood on his leg needs help Indeed, he has a history of 'accidentally' standing on opponents' legs. |
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Post by colinroberts1 on Sept 1, 2015 16:18:38 GMT
I'm surprised we haven't appealed Adams red card given the clear description the linesman gave to the ref. Any news on retrospective punishment for Gardner? Can only happen if the ref didn't see what hapenned. He saw it and booked Gardner so retrospective action not possible. which one was he booked for rhough, bringing affelay down or hand to face ?? |
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Post by dozintheseventees on Sept 1, 2015 16:20:43 GMT
Can only happen if the ref didn't see what hapenned. He saw it and booked Gardner so retrospective action not possible. which one was he booked for rhough, bringing affelay down or hand to face ?? Doesn't really matter does it? We don't really know which he booked him for but he isn't going to make a twat out of himself and say he missed the 'flick' is he. He'll claim he saw it and dealt with it. |
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Post by desman2 on Sept 1, 2015 16:22:45 GMT
which one was he booked for rhough, bringing affelay down or hand to face ?? Doesn't really matter does it? We don't really know which he booked him for but he isn't going to make a twat out of himself and say he missed the 'flick' is he. He'll claim he saw it and dealt with it. He makes a twat out of himself everytime he steps on a pitch |
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Post by unknown182 on Sept 1, 2015 16:26:22 GMT
Arnautovic - Ireland - Shaqiri
Whelan - Van Ginkel
I'm happy with this for the next few games to be honest.
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Post by colinroberts1 on Sept 1, 2015 16:33:10 GMT
which one was he booked for rhough, bringing affelay down or hand to face ?? Doesn't really matter does it? We don't really know which he booked him for but he isn't going to make a twat out of himself and say he missed the 'flick' is he. He'll claim he saw it and dealt with it. yeah conna see him admittin he fucked up unfortunately !! |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Sept 1, 2015 16:33:38 GMT
I'm surprised we haven't appealed Adams red card given the clear description the linesman gave to the ref. Any news on retrospective punishment for Gardner? Can only happen if the ref didn't see what hapenned. He saw it and booked Gardner so retrospective action not possible. He booked Gardner for the foul so retrospective action could be taken for the raised hand |
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Post by dozintheseventees on Sept 1, 2015 16:35:32 GMT
Can only happen if the ref didn't see what hapenned. He saw it and booked Gardner so retrospective action not possible. He booked Gardner for the foul so retrospective action could be taken for the raised hand Serious question Dave..... How do you know what he booked him for? In any case, if he booked him for the foul, it's still not possible to take retrospective action for the 'tap' IF the referee says he saw it. |
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Post by Boothen on Sept 1, 2015 16:37:21 GMT
I'm sick of saying it ....we are very UNDISCIPLINED, any body who thinks charlie adam accidentely stood on his leg needs help Fuck off. The problem here is that referees come into Stoke games with their minds already made up, as evidenced by the fact that Gardner was still on the pitch. You can thank Pulis for that legacy. |
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Post by dozintheseventees on Sept 1, 2015 16:40:52 GMT
I'm sick of saying it ....we are very UNDISCIPLINED, any body who thinks charlie adam accidentely stood on his leg needs help Fuck off. The problem here is that referees come into Stoke games with their minds already made up, as evidenced by the fact that Gardner was still on this pitch. You can thank Pulis for that legacy. So Adam DIDN'T stand on the opponent's leg deliberately then? It was right in front of me and he most certainly did. |
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Post by adamsson on Sept 1, 2015 16:43:50 GMT
I'm sick of saying it ....we are very UNDISCIPLINED, any body who thinks charlie adam accidentely stood on his leg needs help Well perhaps if he hadn't done a flying two footed scissor kick and the tried to hold to Adam's leg in a successful attempt top wind him up he would of got stepped on. If the FA continue to treat petty reactions to a foul MUCH more seriously than the foul itself then they are in fact encouraging players to cheat in an attempt to get players sent off. It is obvious that Affeley and Adam were deliberately targeted by West Brom in a cynical (yeas and successful) attempt to get them sent off. Oliver had previously fallen out with Hughes and delighted in the chance to get his own back. |
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Post by adamsson on Sept 1, 2015 16:46:53 GMT
Fuck off. The problem here is that referees come into Stoke games with their minds already made up, as evidenced by the fact that Gardner was still on this pitch. You can thank Pulis for that legacy. So Adam DIDN'T stand on the opponent's leg deliberately then? It was right in front of me and he most certainly did. I have no way of knowing if Adam stood on Gardeners leg to try and regain his balance after being fouled or as response to being fouled but I DO KNOW THAT GARDNER FOULED HIM DELIBERATELY |
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Post by metalhead on Sept 1, 2015 16:49:17 GMT
Letter of the law I guess.
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Post by dozintheseventees on Sept 1, 2015 16:50:06 GMT
I'm sick of saying it ....we are very UNDISCIPLINED, any body who thinks charlie adam accidentely stood on his leg needs help Well perhaps if he hadn't done a flying two footed scissor kick and the tried to hold to Adam's leg in a successful attempt top wind him up he would of got stepped on. If the FA continue to treat petty reactions to a foul MUCH more seriously than the foul itself then they are in fact encouraging players to cheat in an attempt to get players sent off. It is obvious that Affeley and Adam were deliberately targeted by West Brom in a cynical (yeas and successful) attempt to get them sent off. Oliver had previously fallen out with Hughes and delighted in the chance to get his own back. And when all of that is said and done..............the referee still acted within the laws of the game and CORRECTLY sent off two Stoke players. He got other stuff wrong and Gardner should have gone but the two Stoke players were correctly sent off (even if he COULD have used a bit of common sense with Affelay and booked them both). We need to stop blaming the referee for the stupidity of two of our players. |
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Post by dozintheseventees on Sept 1, 2015 16:54:57 GMT
So Adam DIDN'T stand on the opponent's leg deliberately then? It was right in front of me and he most certainly did. I have no way of knowing if Adam stood on Gardeners leg to try and regain his balance after being fouled or as response to being fouled but I DO KNOW THAT GARDNER FOULED HIM DELIBERATELY Come on mate....it's just between us.  Charlie has got a bloody screw loose at times and he DELIBERATELY stood on the fella's leg. He knew it straight away and quickly tried to help the fella up. When the red came out he made no attempt whatsoever to dispute it....he knew what he'd done. Gardner DID deliberately foul Affelay ..............and was booked. (Although I have no idea whether it was for the foul or the 'flick'). |
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