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Post by march4 on Aug 27, 2015 21:11:15 GMT
Forgetting Pulis for a minute.....this is a massive game for us and, perhaps even more so, for Hughes in particular. It's a big test and with SJW apparently on his way as the not so new broom sweeps away more Pulis remnants MH really needs us to deliver. I don't think the result is all that important IF we play well. If we are as disjointed as we have been at times so far this season then I think we'll have a mini crisis on our hands. My big concern is that we, currently, are the type of pretty but soft side Pulis teams tend to do best against. Hughes is the manager for us, and he is IMO the better manager, but he needs his team to step up for him on Saturday. Hughes has more than delivered since he's been here. I find it astonishing that people are on about performances nowadays when in times gone past they couldn't see past a 0-0 draw or a 1-0 win if we were lucky. We need a result, performances will come. Performances are irrelevant. Only points matter.
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Post by Titan Uranus on Aug 27, 2015 21:22:11 GMT
The demise of WHam and Soton in Europe give further evidence of the good job he did. Decent folk will stand and applaud. By 3.01pm normal service will be resumed. Absolutely spot-on. Proper Stoke supporters will applaud him from the tunnel to dug-out. Surely we can show Tony our appreciation for half a minute. Really poor show if we dont.
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Post by elystokie on Aug 27, 2015 21:23:52 GMT
Hughes has more than delivered since he's been here. I find it astonishing that people are on about performances nowadays when in times gone past they couldn't see past a 0-0 draw or a 1-0 win if we were lucky. We need a result, performances will come. Performances are irrelevant. Only points matter. Seems about 6k season ticket holders (at least) at the end of his last season didn't share that view :)
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Post by stokiejoe on Aug 27, 2015 21:25:37 GMT
The standing ovation. Polite applause is more than enough, did well for us and moved on. We need to respect our current manager We will have plenty of time and occasions when we pay homage to Sparky. This will be the ONLY time we can give one of our most successful managers, who didn't want to leave, a rousing thank you. Disagree. Polite applause yes, standing ovations or rousing thank you is too much. Still think it gives the wrong impression.
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Post by stokiejoe on Aug 27, 2015 21:31:15 GMT
The demise of WHam and Soton in Europe give further evidence of the good job he did. Decent folk will stand and applaud. By 3.01pm normal service will be resumed. Absolutely spot-on. Proper Stoke supporters will applaud him from the tunnel to dug-out. Surely we can show Tony our appreciation for half a minute. Really poor show if we dont. Nothing to do with "proper" supporters. Equally easy to say "proper" supporters should support our manager. Polite applause is all that is needed , a lot of "proper" supporters wanted him gone.
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Post by foxysgloves on Aug 27, 2015 21:31:08 GMT
Forgetting Pulis for a minute.....this is a massive game for us and, perhaps even more so, for Hughes in particular. It's a big test and with SJW apparently on his way as the not so new broom sweeps away more Pulis remnants MH really needs us to deliver. I don't think the result is all that important IF we play well. If we are as disjointed as we have been at times so far this season then I think we'll have a mini crisis on our hands. My big concern is that we, currently, are the type of pretty but soft side Pulis teams tend to do best against. Hughes is the manager for us, and he is IMO the better manager, but he needs his team to step up for him on Saturday. Hughes has more than delivered since he's been here. I find it astonishing that people are on about performances nowadays when in times gone past they couldn't see past a 0-0 draw or a 1-0 win if we were lucky. We need a result, performances will come. Absolutely he's more than delivered. And performances on the whole, while at times far from perfect, are much better than the latter Pulis years. But there's no denying we're far from the finished article and there are big questions regarding our defence and central midfield. The team we were at the tail end of last season is what I hope MH aspires too. Footballing, pacy, aggressive, able to be physical and match physicality and play with invention and purpose. We've only done that sporadically so far and Saturday would be a very good time to deliver a more complete performance.
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Post by Titan Uranus on Aug 27, 2015 21:49:28 GMT
Absolutely spot-on. Proper Stoke supporters will applaud him from the tunnel to dug-out. Surely we can show Tony our appreciation for half a minute. Really poor show if we dont. Nothing to do with "proper" supporters. Equally easy to say "proper" supporters should support our manager. Polite applause is all that is needed , a lot of "proper" supporters wanted him gone. Equally nothing to do with "proper" supporters wanting him gone. It's to do with what he's done for our Club with no "proper" acknowledgement and thanks from the vast majority of fans.
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 27, 2015 21:57:31 GMT
Nothing to do with "proper" supporters. Equally easy to say "proper" supporters should support our manager. Polite applause is all that is needed , a lot of "proper" supporters wanted him gone. Equally nothing to do with "proper" supporters wanting him gone. It's to do with what he's done for our Club with no "proper" acknowledgement and thanks from the vast majority of fans. Good of you to tell us who are and who are not proper supporters. Perhaps we need a card to identify the righteous.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Aug 27, 2015 22:01:36 GMT
Nothing to do with "proper" supporters. Equally easy to say "proper" supporters should support our manager. Polite applause is all that is needed , a lot of "proper" supporters wanted him gone. Equally nothing to do with "proper" supporters wanting him gone. It's to do with what he's done for our Club with no "proper" acknowledgement and thanks from the vast majority of fans. Did you ever let us know what prompted your Damascene conversion from PHW to true believer, given you wanted him sacked from quite early on and still did when he actually was?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2015 22:05:03 GMT
My F5 key hasn't been used. Just thought that I would let you all know.
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Post by Miles Offside on Aug 27, 2015 22:15:17 GMT
Unless the guy with the microphone says something like "Welcome to former Stoke City manager Tony Pulis" nobody will have a clue which cheers (or boos) are for TP as the players and staff come out together.
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Post by march4 on Aug 27, 2015 22:17:46 GMT
Absolutely spot-on. Proper Stoke supporters will applaud him from the tunnel to dug-out. Surely we can show Tony our appreciation for half a minute. Really poor show if we dont. Nothing to do with "proper" supporters. Equally easy to say "proper" supporters should support our manager. Polite applause is all that is needed , a lot of "proper" supporters wanted him gone. Define 'a lot'. It was no more than an insignificant rump of our support.
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Post by march4 on Aug 27, 2015 22:22:28 GMT
Unless the guy with the microphone says something like "Welcome to former Stoke City manager Tony Pulis" nobody will have a clue which cheers (or boos) are for TP as the players and staff come out together. TP will jog from the tunnel on his own. There will be no mistaking the outpouring of emotion. I wonder how he will acknowledge it. Perhaps he will move to the centre circle to wave to all corners of the ground. Perhaps he will jog around the entire perimeter of the pitch waving to everyone, signing autographs, stopping for selfies, etc. Perhaps he will speak on PA system to address the crowd. Or perhaps he will just smile to himself and give Kempy a nudge in the ribs (like he did when he returned with Plymouth).
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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 27, 2015 22:46:16 GMT
He can have his own party bus for all I care as long as we get the 3 points.
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Post by Fred Ferret on Aug 27, 2015 22:51:51 GMT
TP will jog from the tunnel on his own. There will be no mistaking the outpouring of emotion. I wonder how he will acknowledge it. Perhaps he will move to the centre circle to wave to all corners of the ground. Perhaps he will jog around the entire perimeter of the pitch waving to everyone, signing autographs, stopping for selfies, etc. Perhaps he will speak on PA system to address the crowd. Or perhaps he will just smile to himself and give Kempy a nudge in the ribs (like he did when he returned with Plymouth). He would love to do all of the above - after all, it would assuage his undoubted sense of hurt at the manner of his departing (which in many ways was quite sad given his contribution). I say let him soak up the remnants of deserved affection - then suffer what he has enjoyed inflicting on us in those last 2 games his teams have played us. Saturday must however revert to dog-eat-dog.
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Post by march4 on Aug 27, 2015 22:55:21 GMT
TP will jog from the tunnel on his own. There will be no mistaking the outpouring of emotion. I wonder how he will acknowledge it. Perhaps he will move to the centre circle to wave to all corners of the ground. Perhaps he will jog around the entire perimeter of the pitch waving to everyone, signing autographs, stopping for selfies, etc. Perhaps he will speak on PA system to address the crowd. Or perhaps he will just smile to himself and give Kempy a nudge in the ribs (like he did when he returned with Plymouth). He would love to do all of the above - after all, it would assuage his undoubted sense of hurt at the manner of his departing (which in many ways was quite sad given his contribution). I say let him soak up the remnants of deserved affection - then suffer what he has enjoyed inflicting on us in those last 2 games his teams have played us. Saturday must however revert to dog-eat-dog. One thing is certain. TP will have been planning for this game from the moment he left. WBA's whole pre-season will have been geared around this game.
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Post by JoeinOz on Aug 27, 2015 22:56:49 GMT
He would love to do all of the above - after all, it would assuage his undoubted sense of hurt at the manner of his departing (which in many ways was quite sad given his contribution). I say let him soak up the remnants of deserved affection - then suffer what he has enjoyed inflicting on us in those last 2 games his teams have played us. Saturday must however revert to dog-eat-dog. One thing is certain. TP will have been planning for this game from the moment he left. WBA's whole pre-season will have been geared around this game. That was clear by how they surrendered so wankly against Chelsea. But it was an honour to be on the same pitch as them. So that's all right.
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Post by march4 on Aug 27, 2015 23:04:32 GMT
One thing is certain. TP will have been planning for this game from the moment he left. WBA's whole pre-season will have been geared around this game. That was clear by how they surrendered so wankly against Chelsea. But it was an honour to be on the same pitch as them. So that's all right. 'Bonus game', Joe You might not have noticed in Oz but the national media frenzy is building up to TP's return. There was a 2 page spread about it in The Daily Mail at the weekend. Doesn't take much to get the journos excited. I hope we don't lose 1-0 to a set piece goal while having 65% possession. A nice 3-0 with the proverbial unsoiled sheet is the order of the day.
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Post by whereami on Aug 27, 2015 23:06:40 GMT
Objectively, this is a massive game. Hughes has bought the players in who can crack a defensive team to get into that heady air above 9th. Right now they are (hopefully) gelling, hopefully, and a Pulis away game will be the equivalent of running up a big fucking mountain in Austria for them. But football wise. If you wanna smash through a glass ceiling, the first thing you'll feel is cuts, thats why so many teams have fallen at this gate before. The premier league is so fucking rich now though that everyone has a chance more then any time in the last what, 15, 20 years? To not win but make an impression. Considering a "chance" is breaking the established top 6, and that means a team who can break down defensive units, NOT just play counter attack, I'd prefer to see us inept in the short term for long term gains... which sparky has earned the right to have faith in. We were toothless vs Genoa (?) in Hughes's first home friendly, that season worked out ok. Lets see.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Aug 27, 2015 23:10:52 GMT
Played a massive part in the revival or our club so hoope he gets a standing ovation but we have moved on he has moved on so after a great reception lets take three points off his team , nothing else to say
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Post by march4 on Aug 27, 2015 23:22:28 GMT
Played a massive part in the revival or our club so hoope he gets a standing ovation but we have moved on he has moved on so after a great reception lets take three points off his team , nothing else to say Both TP and SCFC have done well after the parting. There should be nothing but respect on both sides.
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Post by CalgaryPotter on Aug 28, 2015 3:51:34 GMT
Mark Hughes Red & White army full boar from the start in my opinion then some polite applause as he parks his arse in the dugout.
He'll be expecting the adulation so hearing the name of our new manager in the song that very few sang for him will be a right kick in the balls.
Everyone's going fucking soft.
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Post by JoeinOz on Aug 28, 2015 4:03:30 GMT
That was clear by how they surrendered so wankly against Chelsea. But it was an honour to be on the same pitch as them. So that's all right. 'Bonus game', Joe You might not have noticed in Oz but the national media frenzy is building up to TP's return. There was a 2 page spread about it in The Daily Mail at the weekend. Doesn't take much to get the journos excited. I hope we don't lose 1-0 to a set piece goal while having 65% possession. A nice 3-0 with the proverbial unsoiled sheet is the order of the day. Well that's a good reason to be in Oz! I'm just bloody sick of him. We've played him twice since SCFC had to sack him and he got his ovations then. Now we have to go through it all again.
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Post by CalgaryPotter on Aug 28, 2015 4:20:04 GMT
Absolutely Joe
This is the Baggies from Rio de Smethwick. A club who've done nowt but look down their noses at us. It's about time we got back to winning ways & reminded them just how fucking intimidating we can be.
Giving their new boss a standing ovation should not be part of the equation.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2015 4:30:40 GMT
"A lot will be written about him this week" And that's just on this thread! My view? He should have gone 12 months earlier than he did. The final season was just too much, even some of the home performances had started to become tiresome to watch. Apart from that, a great Stoke manager. The cup run, promotion, Europe, etc. will get all the headlines, but for me our first season up was the epitome of the man. Written off by everyone as relegation fodder, "worse than Derby" (and their record breaking low points haul) many predicted. But he and the players found a way. Listen to the first 35 seconds. TalkSport at its finest. 1st time I heard that...That is freeking great.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2015 4:34:31 GMT
Polite applause for TP for sure, followed by Hughesy Hughesy give us a wave. That lets both managers know their place in our hearts.
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Post by adamsson on Aug 28, 2015 5:27:10 GMT
I hope to join in a few choruses of "sacked in the morning" as our 8th, 9th and 10th goals go in There absolutely no way I will be applauding an opposition manger
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Post by sportsman on Aug 28, 2015 5:37:34 GMT
"But, despite his flaws, who else could have taken us to the promised land?" No one, absolutely no one. Don't be daft. We were only promoted because Coates is a billionaire. What a knob
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Post by sportsman on Aug 28, 2015 5:39:04 GMT
He would love to do all of the above - after all, it would assuage his undoubted sense of hurt at the manner of his departing (which in many ways was quite sad given his contribution). I say let him soak up the remnants of deserved affection - then suffer what he has enjoyed inflicting on us in those last 2 games his teams have played us. Saturday must however revert to dog-eat-dog. One thing is certain. TP will have been planning for this game from the moment he left. WBA's whole pre-season will have been geared around this game. This
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Post by sportsman on Aug 28, 2015 5:41:09 GMT
Absolutely Joe This is the Baggies from Rio de Smethwick. A club who've done nowt but look down their noses at us. It's about time we got back to winning ways & reminded them just how fucking intimidating we can be. Giving their new boss a standing ovation should not be part of the equation. What's wrong with doing it as he come out of the tunnel, then it's business as usual.
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