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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Jun 24, 2015 19:14:43 GMT
This is massively overplayed in my view. Why would you ever want to 'move on' from tough as teak, heart on sleeve defending, with a burning desire to win your personal one on one battles and an equal desire to help your mates, if they're not winning there's. Are we really saying that a player schooled at Chelsea and in the German youth set up can't handle a ball from the goalkeeper and pass it to a team mate? 100% agree. Huth has hardly played for Hughes and when he has, he's either been carry an injury or recovering from one. This thing about him not suiting the style is just a load of bollocks. Letting him go is a major mistake. Replacing him with woolsheid is an even bigger one. Top post that mate
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Post by blackpoolred on Jun 24, 2015 19:23:28 GMT
100% agree. Huth has hardly played for Hughes and when he has, he's either been carry an injury or recovering from one. This thing about him not suiting the style is just a load of bollocks. Letting him go is a major mistake. Replacing him with woolsheid is an even bigger one. Top post that mate Baffled He is better than anything we have and we are not exactly overran in the centre of defence, in numbers or quality. Sold to our rivals and look at the influence he had when he arrived there - did they lose a game. Dont understand that one. But thanks to Huth - Always be a legend here
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Post by ricardocomeback on Jun 24, 2015 19:23:42 GMT
Huthy what an inspiration you are. Just loved watching you play, such a top class defender and a fantastic force at set pieces. Wishing you all the best many thanks for the great memories!
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Post by Kjones9 on Jun 24, 2015 19:24:21 GMT
So "Huth has hardly played and when he has he's been injured" equals we should keep him?
Just let him go with dignity,
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Post by YounginStoke on Jun 24, 2015 19:29:08 GMT
Fact is Muni is the better player and him and Ryan are a quality partnership, yes they won't probably be fit for all 38 games and then Huth is better than Wolly and Wilson, but Huth wouldn't want to be sitting on the bench for the majority of games, when he can play 35+ games somewhere else.
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Post by adamsson on Jun 24, 2015 19:30:12 GMT
Hardest Stoke player since Dennis. Good luck big man Sergi Shtaniuk was harder probably not as good but definitely harder
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Post by adamsson on Jun 24, 2015 19:33:35 GMT
Fact is Muni is the better player and him and Ryan are a quality partnership, yes they won't probably be fit for all 38 games and then Huth is better than Wolly and Wilson, but Huth wouldn't want to be sitting on the bench for the majority of games, when he can play 35+ games somewhere else. This. and I think Wollscheid will be a lot better than many people think once he has had a pre-season and some time to settle but he will never have the style of Huth.
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Post by Fred Ferret on Jun 24, 2015 19:36:40 GMT
This outcome absolutely stinks! MH and PC, etc., have done a magnificent job this past 2 seasons - in MH we have an excellent manager. However, there are times when even the best of guys (and intentions) make a big mistake. The sale of Robert Huth sale is a one hell of an example of this.
Royally pissed of with this, SCFC.
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Post by AstroTom on Jun 24, 2015 19:36:41 GMT
Has to be said, we signed Huthy for £5 million 6 years ago. He's hitting on a bit now at 30 and for us to get £3 million back, plus the prize money he's earned us from Premier League finishes and 'that' cup run, we have done a fantastic bit of business. I'm as gutted as anyone to see him go, but without him alongside Ryan, we wouldn't be anywhere near where we are today. Thanks Huthy.
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Post by YounginStoke on Jun 24, 2015 19:37:55 GMT
This outcome absolutely stinks! MH and PC, etc., have done a magnificent job this past 2 seasons - in MH we have an excellent manager. However, there are times when even the best of guys (and intentions) make a big mistake. The sale of Robert Huth sale is a one hell of an example of this. Royally pissed of with this, SCFC. Why? Would you have started him next season if he had stayed?
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Post by Fred Ferret on Jun 24, 2015 19:42:01 GMT
This outcome absolutely stinks! MH and PC, etc., have done a magnificent job this past 2 seasons - in MH we have an excellent manager. However, there are times when even the best of guys (and intentions) make a big mistake. The sale of Robert Huth sale is a one hell of an example of this. Royally pissed of with this, SCFC. Why? Would you have started him next season if he had stayed? Start with him, when? Ever heard of the concept of a squad of players and substitutions?
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Post by YounginStoke on Jun 24, 2015 19:43:13 GMT
Why? Would you have started him next season if he had stayed? Start with him, when? Ever heard of the concept of a squad of players and substitutions? Why would he stay and be a squad player, when he can be a starter for another PL club?
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Post by fca47 on Jun 24, 2015 19:46:17 GMT
This outcome absolutely stinks! MH and PC, etc., have done a magnificent job this past 2 seasons - in MH we have an excellent manager. However, there are times when even the best of guys (and intentions) make a big mistake. The sale of Robert Huth sale is a one hell of an example of this. Royally pissed of with this, SCFC. Why? Would you have started him next season if he had stayed? If it came as a choice bertween Huth and Wollscheid, I'd play Huth every time. When Huth goes for the ball he either gets the ball or the man, either way he defends, Wollscheid gives the forward a chance, he's not decisive enough.
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Post by Fred Ferret on Jun 24, 2015 19:47:53 GMT
Start with him, when? Ever heard of the concept of a squad of players and substitutions? Why would he stay and be a squad player, when he can be a starter for another PL club? Has it ever occurred to you that a player can/might even be able to fight his way back in?
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Post by YounginStoke on Jun 24, 2015 19:48:06 GMT
Why? Would you have started him next season if he had stayed? If it came as a choice bertween Huth and Wollscheid, I'd play Huth every time. When Huth goes for the ball he either gets the ball or the man, either way he defends, Wollscheid gives the forward a chance, he's not decisive enough. But Muniesa starts ahead of both of them and I revert back to the point, why would Huth be a squad player here when he can be a starter elsewhere?
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Post by YounginStoke on Jun 24, 2015 19:49:38 GMT
Why would he stay and be a squad player, when he can be a starter for another PL club? Has it ever occurred to you that a player can/might even be able to fight his way back in? No one displaces Ryan and Muni is 23 and is only going to get better and better, so to answer that, I don't think Huth would have been able to fight his way back in when Hughes rightly prefers Muni.
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Post by Fred Ferret on Jun 24, 2015 19:51:41 GMT
If it came as a choice bertween Huth and Wollscheid, I'd play Huth every time. When Huth goes for the ball he either gets the ball or the man, either way he defends, Wollscheid gives the forward a chance, he's not decisive enough. But Muniesa starts ahead of both of them and I revert back to the point, why would Huth be a squad player here when he can be a starter elsewhere? Oh really, so you can guarantee that Muniesa will be the first in all through the season? As, for your last comment, read my previous post.
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Post by YounginStoke on Jun 24, 2015 19:53:37 GMT
But Muniesa starts ahead of both of them and I revert back to the point, why would Huth be a squad player here when he can be a starter elsewhere? Oh really, so you can guarantee that Muniesa will be the first in all through the season? As, for your last comment, read my previous post. For the majority of the season yeah definitely.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2015 19:53:52 GMT
Has it ever occurred to you that a player can/might even be able to fight his way back in? No one displaces Ryan and Muni is 23 and is only going to get better and better, so to answer that, I don't think Huth would have been able to fight his way back in when Hughes rightly prefers Muni. Muni is a cracking footballer but his injury record is not great. For that reason letting Huth go is a big mistake. Theres also a question mark over Ryans back. If Shawcross and Muni play 30 plus games next season we will do very well. I just cant see it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2015 19:54:02 GMT
I have never really understood the argument that he doesn't fit with Hughes style of play. Are we saying that Huth is nothing more than a clogger? You don't win a premier league title playing for Chelsea unless you can play a bit of football. Under TP Huth had one job and that was defend at all costs I am sure given a run in our current team Huth would of soon got his footballing mojo back. I will miss the big German youth and I bet Ryan and SJW are gutted. It is one thing to be able to collect the ball from the keeper and pass to a team mate which of course Huth can do, but it's another thing to remain composed and do the same thing under pressure from opposing strikers and for me, Huth always seemed uncomfortable in that situation resulting in a long ball anywhere, a throw in to the opposition or losing possession altogether. I'm not knocking the bloke at all. I loved him at Stoke as much as anyone, a good solid 'old style' centre back who'd crawl over broken glass to get to the ball but I just think we are trying to move things on and we need a little more from our players. They must adapt or get left behind. We constantly hear of players 'never given a real chance' in the first team by the manager. Some will argue this case for Huth but it's down to the players in training throughout the week to impress and win their place. It's the training ground where players show they can do the job the manager is asking of them, if they can't then they don't play. It's the same with Wilko, we all love him and his attitude but he just no longer fits our plans. You're right about winning a premier league title, few 'cloggers' will ever manage that and I believe Huth fully deserved his place in that side but that was years ago. The game has changed dramatically since then, defenders are now asked to do so much more in the game. Unfortunately, Huth remains very much an old school defender. Don't get me wrong, there is still a place in football for guys like that but more often than not I think you'll find they inhabit the lower half of the table and less frequently the top half where we are trying to be a regular feature. I really do wish him all the best. I have nothing but admiration for all he did here both as a player and a man, a really decent bloke, but while my heart wishes he was still here my head tells me it's the sensible thing to do, both for him and Stoke City. I'd rather he shines at Leicester than be a forgotten man at Stoke. Good luck Huthy and thank you.
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Post by Fred Ferret on Jun 24, 2015 19:54:33 GMT
Has it ever occurred to you that a player can/might even be able to fight his way back in? No one displaces Ryan and Muni is 23 and is only going to get better and better, so to answer that, I don't think Huth would have been able to fight his way back in when Hughes rightly prefers Muni. Well, you're entitled to an opinion. What if Muni gets injured - not likely is it?
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Post by YounginStoke on Jun 24, 2015 19:56:51 GMT
No one displaces Ryan and Muni is 23 and is only going to get better and better, so to answer that, I don't think Huth would have been able to fight his way back in when Hughes rightly prefers Muni. Muni is a cracking footballer but his injury record is not great. For that reason letting Huth go is a big mistake. Theres also a question mark over Ryans back. If Shawcross and Muni play 30 plus games next season we will do very well. I just cant see it. I agree that Muni and Ryan won't play every game, but I do believe Muni will play more games this season than he before, because he's working with specialists on improving his fitness to improve his injury record. I just don't think Huth would have got enough games to keep him happy, when he can start pretty much ever game at Leicester. Also let's not forget Huth has had a few injuries over the past couple of years too, so he might not have been fit all the time if he had stayed.
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Post by YounginStoke on Jun 24, 2015 19:58:20 GMT
No one displaces Ryan and Muni is 23 and is only going to get better and better, so to answer that, I don't think Huth would have been able to fight his way back in when Hughes rightly prefers Muni. Well, you're entitled to an opinion. What if Muni gets injured - not likely is it? I'm not saying he won't get injured, but I do reckon he will play more games this season than he has before. I just believe that Huth wouldn't have got enough games to keep him happy.
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Post by mrcoke on Jun 24, 2015 20:05:18 GMT
Thanks Robert , all the best.
I argued on here that Huthy should be retained until a better CB obtained, but now realise it is time to move on. MH and his team know what they are doing IMO.
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Post by Gifton on Jun 24, 2015 20:10:54 GMT
One of my all time favourites from a very special time.
Teams don't stay together as long as they used to and we've had to say goodbye to some legends of the club in recent years. None more so than Huthy. Sad day for us all.
Ryan was here first but he didn't half have some solid partners to help him grow into the player he is today, Higgy, Faye, Huthy.
It's up to Shawcross to do the same for others now. If he stays here for the rest of his career and, we maybe even win something, it'll be Ryan who gets the statue in 30 years time and rightly so, he's been here for all of it. But when we look up at the statue of Shawcross, we'll be thinking of Huthy by his side!
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Post by Kjones9 on Jun 24, 2015 20:12:41 GMT
And so typically its descended into this.
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Post by bathstoke on Jun 24, 2015 20:15:52 GMT
"Robert Huth, Huth, Huth, he's a massive German youth..."
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Post by bogus on Jun 24, 2015 20:16:42 GMT
Good luck big Rob!
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Jun 24, 2015 20:23:55 GMT
"Robert Huth, Huth, Huth, he's a massive German youth..." One of my all time favourite songs. Well it was until the fast hand clap brigade got hold of it.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Jun 24, 2015 20:26:31 GMT
His goal contribution from set plays should not be underestimated.
If nothing else he looks totally out of place in Leicetser's blue
If he brings a book out in five years time I would be very interested in reading his thoughts on his time at Stoke, his last season here and this transfer.
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