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Post by stokesaint1 on Jun 18, 2015 11:02:06 GMT
I understood that we were heading in a new direction of signing top players that were automatic names on the starting eleven team sheet. To date,and I know it's early, we've spent 9 million on three players that aren't, based on past performances and unstartling reports, going to walk into the starting eleven. Have we just peed away 9 million to make up the numbers, without making any improvements to our starting eleven? Surely we'd have been better investing in one star name rather than three maybes, or am I being unkind? If you want to take out the 600k for the keeper that's fine and then it's 8.5 million on two squad players.
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Post by Davef on Jun 18, 2015 11:05:04 GMT
Fancy that, The Smiths' 'Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now' has just come on the radio.
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Post by stokesaint1 on Jun 18, 2015 11:06:41 GMT
I've just thrown out the gladdies to the audience. Sorry, I just think we're spending unwisely.
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Post by Gods on Jun 18, 2015 11:06:43 GMT
Stay calm, it's a slow-burner. I am confident there will be a few pyrotechnics before we are done
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Post by slother on Jun 18, 2015 11:06:38 GMT
I understood that we were heading in a new direction of signing top players that were automatic names on the starting eleven team sheet. To date,and I know it's early, we've spent 9 million on three players that aren't, based on past performances and unstartling reports, going to walk into the starting eleven. Have we just peed away 9 million to make up the numbers, without making any improvements to our starting eleven? Surely we'd have been better investing in one star name rather than three maybes, or am I being unkind? If you want to take out the 600k for the keeper that's fine and then it's 8.5 million on two squad players. Shit the bed how do you get through a 90 minute football match with that feeble, pansy-ass attitude?!
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Post by Pedropotter on Jun 18, 2015 11:07:14 GMT
Fancy that, The Smiths' 'Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now' has just come on the radio. :) I thought exactly the same!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2015 11:07:25 GMT
I understood that we were heading in a new direction of signing top players that were automatic names on the starting eleven team sheet. To date,and I know it's early, we've spent 9 million on three players that aren't, based on past performances and unstartling reports, going to walk into the starting eleven. Have we just peed away 9 million to make up the numbers, without making any improvements to our starting eleven? Surely we'd have been better investing in one star name rather than three maybes, or am I being unkind? If you want to take out the 600k for the keeper that's fine and then it's 8.5 million on two squad players. It's a squad game though. Someone that might not be in the managers first choice XI isn't there to "make up the numbers"
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Post by dirtygary69 on Jun 18, 2015 11:08:19 GMT
Joselu will be involved in every game he's available for. Hardly a squad player. We can't be that careless in spending £5 to £8 Million (depending on who you believe) on a squad player, even though we aren't struggling financially. I believe Hughes sees him as a vital cog in our progression judging by what he said upon his signature.
The Danish lad will be back up, maybe 3rd choice but they're signings that are made even where you're in league one. We had Jani Viander for Christ knows how long and he played once. I wouldn't be surprised to see him become our first choice keeper in a few years either. Denmark do produce some very good goalkeepers.
For £2.5 Million, Wollscheid should be adequate cover for CB if he gets a decent pre-season behind him. I wasn't a huge fan of his but £2.5 Million for a German international isn't a bad deal at all, on paper at least.
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Post by vintagestein on Jun 18, 2015 11:08:23 GMT
Give them a chance FFS. Mark Hughes record so far has been impeccable over the last two years so he has far earnt a little trust.
Wolly will come good, he was thrown in the deep end last season. The new striker has been described as a finisher - is that not exactly what we have been screaming out for for years?
Patience is a virtue!
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Post by jwhpotter on Jun 18, 2015 11:09:03 GMT
I understood that we were heading in a new direction of signing top players that were automatic names on the starting eleven team sheet. To date,and I know it's early, we've spent 9 million on three players that aren't, based on past performances and unstartling reports, going to walk into the starting eleven. Have we just peed away 9 million to make up the numbers, without making any improvements to our starting eleven? Surely we'd have been better investing in one star name rather than three maybes, or am I being unkind? If you want to take out the 600k for the keeper that's fine and then it's 8.5 million on two squad players. Perhaps sorting the cover first then saving the best ones til last!....... Hopefully
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Post by jimmygscfc on Jun 18, 2015 11:09:13 GMT
Joselu's pedigree is excellent and I think we may well have signed a very good centre forward. Having Bojan and Muni around will help him settle. Watch this space, he'll work out. As for Wolly and our new 'keeper, neither are first choices. One is young with potential (he's a Danish U.21) and the other needs to be given a chance now he's signed. Take a chill pill.
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Post by lordb on Jun 18, 2015 11:10:05 GMT
Its June!
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jun 18, 2015 11:10:12 GMT
For what it is worth, I am at least as happy at the signing of Joselu as I was about the signing of Diouf a year ago. Diouf has done ok (and I think there is more to come) and I have high hopes that Joselu will go some way towards solving our chronic lack of a strike option who is both good in the air and has decent pace. But, if Stokiesaint wants to be unhappy about it, then that's fine by me! I reckon there is only so much happiness to go round and anyone who doesn't want to partake will leave more for the rest of us!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2015 11:10:42 GMT
What a crap thread.
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Post by thebet365 on Jun 18, 2015 11:12:28 GMT
Mark Hughes most expensive signing for us and he's squad player at best ?
Go give your head a wobble.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Jun 18, 2015 11:13:10 GMT
To build the foundations for a top 8 push you have to begin at the bottom, £9 million in today's market for 3 players to improve our squad depth is a small outlay, the time will come for a couple of marquee signings, but I'm glad to see we're being sensible with Coatesy's transfer penis and not just signing everyone in sight, plus Wollscheid was here last season, Haugaard has one of the best keepers in the league, and one of the best young keepers in football to take advice from and Joselu has our Spanish contingent of Bojan & Muniesa to make him settle quicker, as well as an ex-teammate in Diouf, so they're unlikely to not settle in and disrupt the marvellous team spirit we seem to have at the moment.
It's early days yet, we have an ageing squad and we've signed 3 young replacements early on, I'm sure Hughesy will be working his bollocks off to attract his main targets but as we're now fast becoming an attractive option for players, I get the feeling that he won't be held to ransom, I'm not concerned in the slightest.
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Post by dutchstokie on Jun 18, 2015 11:15:05 GMT
I understood that we were heading in a new direction of signing top players that were automatic names on the starting eleven team sheet. To date,and I know it's early, we've spent 9 million on three players that aren't, based on past performances and unstartling reports, going to walk into the starting eleven. Have we just peed away 9 million to make up the numbers, without making any improvements to our starting eleven? Surely we'd have been better investing in one star name rather than three maybes, or am I being unkind? If you want to take out the 600k for the keeper that's fine and then it's 8.5 million on two squad players. "Happiness, happiness, the greatest thing that I possess"
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Post by Plave on Jun 18, 2015 11:15:11 GMT
The transfer window doesn't close for 10 more weeks....
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Post by thebet365 on Jun 18, 2015 11:19:50 GMT
as well as an ex-teammate in Diouf, Whilst technically right, I don't think 2 days would have been long enough for them to bond much
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Jun 18, 2015 11:21:18 GMT
as well as an ex-teammate in Diouf, Whilst technically right, I don't think 2 days would have been long enough for them to bond much I'll be honest I was just assuming they were there at the same time Still relationships can develop in mere days, look at Papiss Cisse.
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Post by Kjones9 on Jun 18, 2015 11:21:22 GMT
I absolutely despair some times.
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Post by poethebald on Jun 18, 2015 11:22:11 GMT
I understood that we were heading in a new direction of signing top players that were automatic names on the starting eleven team sheet. To date,and I know it's early, we've spent 9 million on three players that aren't, based on past performances and unstartling reports, going to walk into the starting eleven. Have we just peed away 9 million to make up the numbers, without making any improvements to our starting eleven? Surely we'd have been better investing in one star name rather than three maybes, or am I being unkind? If you want to take out the 600k for the keeper that's fine and then it's 8.5 million on two squad players. I'm not convinced by the recent signings either. However , time will tell and to be fair Hughes hasn't got much wrong. Our current/ future issue maybe that our players are attracting the attention of bigger clubs, but the perception may remain with players and agents that we are still not a big enough club for them to be signing for ? Just a thought.....could be miles away from the truth :-)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2015 11:22:40 GMT
"I hope they prove me wrong".
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Post by silverdollar on Jun 18, 2015 11:23:45 GMT
I would have thought by now that Mark Hughes and his coaches had done enough to warrant a little bit of trust. He certainly didn't throw money away last season and we had an enjoyable and exciting season. I hope these new signing don't go looking through the Oatcake. What must they think of people who make such sweeping analysis when they really have no idea. I am very pleased with what Mark Hughes is doing and I put my faith in him. Only time will tell and matches played. I think the most important thing is that Stephen NZonzi sorts his father out. He is playing out of his skin and is settled and much loved by everyone. You just cannot guarantee that anywhere. He will play for France and we need to get the paperwork done and at a price that shows him that he is much appreciated.
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Post by foster on Jun 18, 2015 11:23:55 GMT
We've released...
Palacios, Sorro and Wilko.
So that's 3 out, 3 in, if you want to think of it that way.
Beggo, N'Zonzi and perhaps even Walters, Crouch or others could go.
We still have 2 months to get the first teamers in.
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Post by stokesaint1 on Jun 18, 2015 11:30:44 GMT
I am neither unhappy or worried I just think we have enough "numbers" in the positions concerned (ch and striker, forget the keeper)and 9 million is 9 million that could be better spent towards a marquee signing. Out of interest, how many had honestly actually heard of Joselu before he signed for us? He's certainly been shunted around a lot without settling or hitting the headlines for his scoring record. I genuinely want him to be a roaring success but his history to date doesn't exactly scream success at top level.
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Post by Vestan Pance on Jun 18, 2015 11:31:22 GMT
I understood that we were heading in a new direction of signing top players that were automatic names on the starting eleven team sheet. To date,and I know it's early, we've spent 9 million on three players that aren't, based on past performances and unstartling reports, going to walk into the starting eleven. Have we just peed away 9 million to make up the numbers, without making any improvements to our starting eleven? Surely we'd have been better investing in one star name rather than three maybes, or am I being unkind? If you want to take out the 600k for the keeper that's fine and then it's 8.5 million on two squad players. You strike me as the kind of chap that if Susannah Reid* turned up at your house in a latex catsuit demanding bareback anal, you'd moan about "having to wash the sheets afterwards". Enjoy the summer, and stop yer werreting... * I have a Susannah Reid thing at the moment. Yum. In fairness, you could say the same about Konoplyanka, and there's 4000 posts about the fucker now.....
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Post by Kjones9 on Jun 18, 2015 11:35:54 GMT
When gods has just told you to calm down there is something seriously wrong with your mental health.
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Post by stokesaint1 on Jun 18, 2015 11:38:02 GMT
Vestan, I wouldn't even open the door for Susannah Reid
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2015 11:40:52 GMT
Fancy that, The Smiths' 'Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now' has just come on the radio. I thought exactly the same! I thought exactly the same and I am not even listening to the radio!
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