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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jun 18, 2015 11:48:31 GMT
I am neither unhappy or worried I just think we have enough "numbers" in the positions concerned (ch and striker, forget the keeper)and 9 million is 9 million that could be better spent towards a marquee signing. Out of interest, how many had honestly actually heard of Joselu before he signed for us? He's certainly been shunted around a lot without settling or hitting the headlines for his scoring record. I genuinely want him to be a roaring success but his history to date doesn't exactly scream success at top level. Amongst our strikers we have three who are over 30 years of age. One of those three (PO) has just recovered from 9 months out with a bad knee injury and two (PC and JW) who have needed minor surgery for months and had to soldier on to see the season out. Not having heard of Joselu isn't really a problem. I hadn't heard anything about Bojan for years and I had certainly never heard of Muniesa - yet those two are amongst my favourite players now.
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Post by stokesaint1 on Jun 18, 2015 11:53:34 GMT
My glass is obviously half empty. Question, if you had twenty million total to spend,can't imagine it will be more than that, to address our key positional ( full back, midfield, wide player, striker) strengthening needs, would YOU have spent nearly half YOUR money on these players?
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Post by jimmygscfc on Jun 18, 2015 11:59:58 GMT
My glass is obviously half empty. Question, if you had twenty million total to spend,can't imagine it will be more than that, to address our key positional ( full back, midfield, wide player, striker) strengthening needs, would YOU have spent nearly half YOUR money on these players? If it is £20 million, that could be plus any money we get for Begovic if he goes. If not, we've got perhaps just over £10 million to sort out another winger and maybe a right back or midfielder. I'm trying to ignore the fact that 'N'Zonzi might leave as I'm in denial, but if he does we'll get something for him although nowhere near enough for a replacement of equal quality, unless our team unearth a gem!!! We could well bring someone in on loan too, and Odemwingie or Jon Walters (maybe even Crouchie), may yet leave.
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Post by Davef on Jun 18, 2015 12:00:05 GMT
My glass is obviously half empty. Question, if you had twenty million total to spend,can't imagine it will be more than that, to address our key positional ( full back, midfield, wide player, striker) strengthening needs, would YOU have spent nearly half YOUR money on these players? Mark Hughes clearly wants these players. That's why he's employed by the club to spend its money. Not you or me. Thank God.
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Post by fca47 on Jun 18, 2015 12:09:31 GMT
Joselu played twice at Real under Morinho and scored both times, not a bad record. Will be happy if we get Moses and a replacement for Nzonzi, if needed.
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Post by salopstick on Jun 18, 2015 12:17:54 GMT
Some of us would moan in paradise
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Post by foster on Jun 18, 2015 12:26:50 GMT
My glass is obviously half empty. Question, if you had twenty million total to spend,can't imagine it will be more than that, to address our key positional ( full back, midfield, wide player, striker) strengthening needs, would YOU have spent nearly half YOUR money on these players? If it is £20 million, that could be plus any money we get for Begovic if he goes. If not, we've got perhaps just over £10 million to sort out another winger and maybe a right back or midfielder. I'm trying to ignore the fact that 'N'Zonzi might leave as I'm in denial, but if he does we'll get something for him although nowhere near enough for a replacement of equal quality, unless our team unearth a gem!!! We could well bring someone in on loan too, and Odemwingie or Jon Walters (maybe even Crouchie), may yet leave. We'll likely get that 2.5m for Huth as well. I fully expect we'll bring in a loan player and hopefully it's Remy.
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Post by Danstoke82 on Jun 18, 2015 12:27:18 GMT
We don't sign anyone and some aren't happy.
We sign someone and some people still aren't happy.
Seriously?, Joselu could be an inspired signing. Just look at Arnie, Bojan, Diouf for instance, I have absolute faith in Hughes's recruitment philosophy. Granted some might not share my opinion but going by what he's done so far, Im pretty sure I'm backing the right way at this present time.
Mark Hughes's red and white army!
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Post by Binndy on Jun 18, 2015 12:28:17 GMT
At the moment we are as good as last year. No moses yet, we have a goal scorer in joselu. The rumours of departures is just that rumours at the moment
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2015 12:34:47 GMT
The club has continued to piont to players coming in who will walk into the first team and are the next level type of player. As of yet they have not delivered.
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Post by jeycov on Jun 18, 2015 12:37:11 GMT
I understood that we were heading in a new direction of signing top players that were automatic names on the starting eleven team sheet. To date,and I know it's early, we've spent 9 million on three players that aren't, based on past performances and unstartling reports, going to walk into the starting eleven. Have we just peed away 9 million to make up the numbers, without making any improvements to our starting eleven? Surely we'd have been better investing in one star name rather than three maybes, or am I being unkind? If you want to take out the 600k for the keeper that's fine and then it's 8.5 million on two squad players. am I being unkind? YES VERY
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Post by lordb on Jun 18, 2015 12:40:03 GMT
My glass is obviously half empty. Question, if you had twenty million total to spend,can't imagine it will be more than that, to address our key positional ( full back, midfield, wide player, striker) strengthening needs, would YOU have spent nearly half YOUR money on these players? Given the club clearly want two of the positions you have stated (seen nothing to suggest we want a midfield player & we have signed the striker) then it would seem strange if we only have £20m to spend Therefore the only logical conclusions can be 1: we have more than £20m 2:the clubs has ballsed up 3: the club anticapate a large sale my guess is a combination of 1 & 2
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Post by Miles Offside on Jun 18, 2015 12:41:01 GMT
To be fair to the opening poster, I didn't read it that he was moaning.
I read it that he quoted Mark as saying we need people who can walk straight into the first team and the first 3 signings probably won't.
Fair enough: that's probably true. Joselu is closest, but I doubt he's been guaranteed first team football.
It's also true that we are trying to sign players who would definitely walk straight into the first team. Just hasn't happened yet.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jun 18, 2015 12:59:36 GMT
To be fair to the opening poster, I didn't read it that he was moaning. I read it that he quoted Mark as saying we need people who can walk straight into the first team and the first 3 signings probably won't. Fair enough: that's probably true. Joselu is closest, but I doubt he's been guaranteed first team football. It's also true that we are trying to sign players who would definitely walk straight into the first team. Just hasn't happened yet. Weren't the quotes about signings taking us to the next level, made AFTER the first two signings? So, only Joselu really comes into the category of a signing who can be expected have a chance of walking into the first team? That's how I interpreted Scholes' comments the other day.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2015 13:02:53 GMT
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Post by jezzascfc on Jun 18, 2015 13:08:13 GMT
We cannot always choose the order in which we sign our players. Wait until September 1st to judge our summer dealings. As a few others have said, I have sneaking feeling that Joselu will do well, and maybe even supplant MBD as first choice striker before the season is out.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2015 13:08:59 GMT
Moses needs to be proven fully fit, before signing him, if indeed we are going to sign him permanently.
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Post by lordb on Jun 18, 2015 13:21:25 GMT
The club has continued to piont to players coming in who will walk into the first team and are the next level type of player. As of yet they have not delivered. Oh no! what could the club possibly do about it? Its only two months+ before the window closes....
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Post by mrcoke on Jun 18, 2015 13:23:57 GMT
What do people expect?
This thread reminds me of Stan Cullis, when Wolves were top of the league, the reserves were top of the Central League, the third team were top of their league (Midland Intermediate I think?), whilst the junior team were second in their league. The story goes he went into the junior team changing room and gave them a right rollicking for letting the club down!
If Stoke won the FA Cup and the "League Cup" some fans would be complaining because we hadn't finished higher in the Prem.
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Post by retired1 on Jun 18, 2015 13:59:12 GMT
I've just thrown out the gladdies to the audience. Sorry, I just think we're spending unwisely. Best you go and tell the club who to buy then and what to pay for them, and we will be sorted. I don't know why the club didn't consult with you in the first place then we wouldnt have had to have wasted 300 pages of drivel on potential targets.
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Post by Will_75 on Jun 18, 2015 15:27:09 GMT
You strike me as the kind of chap that if Susannah Reid* turned up at your house in a latex catsuit demanding bareback anal, you'd moan about "having to wash the sheets afterwards". Enjoy the summer, and stop yer werreting... Beautifully put...
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Post by cmc89 on Jun 18, 2015 17:44:14 GMT
I am neither unhappy or worried I just think we have enough "numbers" in the positions concerned (ch and striker, forget the keeper)and 9 million is 9 million that could be better spent towards a marquee signing. Out of interest, how many had honestly actually heard of Joselu before he signed for us? He's certainly been shunted around a lot without settling or hitting the headlines for his scoring record. I genuinely want him to be a roaring success but his history to date doesn't exactly scream success at top level. Strikers: diouf then crouch, Walters and possibly odenwingie. At the start of the 16-17 season next year we could potentially only have diouf. Then you guys would be screaming about lack of options and poor foresight. If Joselu is a long term target and he's available at our valuation of him, It makes great sense to sign him up now. Doesn't it?
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jun 18, 2015 18:00:08 GMT
Needed a Striker, tick. Needed a CB, tick. Needed a keeper, tick.
Whats not to like?
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Post by stokesaint1 on Jun 18, 2015 18:06:46 GMT
To be fair to the opening poster, I didn't read it that he was moaning. I read it that he quoted Mark as saying we need people who can walk straight into the first team and the first 3 signings probably won't. Fair enough: that's probably true. Joselu is closest, but I doubt he's been guaranteed first team football. It's also true that we are trying to sign players who would definitely walk straight into the first team. Just hasn't happened yet. Miles, Thank you. That is exactly what I was getting at. Definitely not a moan just an observation on what was said and what has happened to date.
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Post by Bera’s Beano on Jun 18, 2015 18:12:57 GMT
Just listened to that through again and it's been the first time in years. Can't believe they ever stopped playing it, used to wait until this was finished all the way trhough before even thinking about leaving the ground lol.
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Post by upthefud on Jun 19, 2015 4:21:01 GMT
Bojan coming back will be like a new signing. A fully for Moses (assuming he comes back) will be like a new signing. Keeping hold of N'Zonzi will be better than a new signing.
Sometimes you have to take a step back and appreciate what you've got
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Post by baltipiesmuggler on Jun 19, 2015 7:12:22 GMT
Bojan coming back will be like a new signing. A fully for Moses (assuming he comes back) will be like a new signing. Keeping hold of N'Zonzi will be better than a new signing. Sometimes you have to take a step back and appreciate what you've got Totally. We're still only one signing away from the squad we need to better last season imo, plus Zonz of course. Usual nonsense about writing off players before they've kicked a ball. It's happened to more or less every player we've signed under Hughes and its just bullshit. Sent from my HTC One_M8 using proboards
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Post by Binndy on Jun 19, 2015 9:36:47 GMT
Begovic Butland Haugaard Bardsley cameron shawcross muniesa wollschied Huth Teixeira Pieters wilson Whelan nzonzi sidwell ness Adam ireland Bojan Odemwingie walters Arnautovic Joselu crouch Diouf. 25 players.so anyone out, must equal one in.The management thought soares and some one from the ukraine.Forgotten his name already.Let gives our Pizza lads time.
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