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Post by lawrieleslie on Jul 4, 2015 17:54:50 GMT
Quite honestly I couldn't give two hoots where Begovic goes as long as we get as much as we can. I'm surprised he hasn't hung on until his contract expires tbh. He would then have pocketed a massive signing on fee and Stoke would have been left with zilch. So to that end goodbye Bego thanks for your services and good luck playing second fiddle at Chelsea where you may get the odd game but don't try throwing your teddies out of the pram like you did here because Jose will fuck you off on loan at best or just buy a replacement leaving you with even less hope of making the Euros or next World Cup.
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Post by numpty40 on Jul 4, 2015 18:00:31 GMT
Surprised nobody has mentioned Remy, he is down the pecking order at Chelsea now. Striker isn't a position we need now we've signed Joselu. We've also got Diouf, Crouch, Walters and Wingie who can all play through the middle and Remy's wages will be high. We either want a young reserve from Chelsea to bolster the squad or a senior who's likely to start (Mikel or Moses). Personally I'd love to see Mikel at Stoke
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 4, 2015 18:02:23 GMT
Why? He'll be on 70/80k a week working under one of the best manager's in the world and playing in quite a few games to boot. It's a fantastic move for him. You can always have more money, he will win things and he's moving to one of the best clubs in the world. I agree with Bayern he will double his wages which NOBODY would turn down. Going to a club that will win titles and cups and he could end up the number 1 who knows. It's very easy to turn down 80k a week when it isn't your salary!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2015 18:03:44 GMT
Surprised nobody has mentioned Remy, he is down the pecking order at Chelsea now. Striker isn't a position we need now we've signed Joselu. We've also got Diouf, Crouch, Walters and Wingie who can all play through the middle and Remy's wages will be high. We either want a young reserve from Chelsea to bolster the squad or a senior who's likely to start (Mikel or Moses). Personally I'd love to see Mikel at Stoke Remy can play wide right of a front 3.
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Post by crouchbot on Jul 4, 2015 18:06:18 GMT
The names linked (e.g. Bamford, Loftus-Cheek & Aké) seem a little below what we would be looking for. Does anybody think that we may be trying for Remy on loan, now they've got Falcao? Also what about the forgotten man Marko Marin? I think our list of targets will look a lot more like... Salah Van Ginkel Mikel Piazon Marin Moses Hopefully not Chalobah. You could probably add Hazards younger brother to that list also, or just tell Chelsea £6 mil plus Obi MIkel Gone to Gladbach perm.
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Post by numpty40 on Jul 4, 2015 18:08:57 GMT
Striker isn't a position we need now we've signed Joselu. We've also got Diouf, Crouch, Walters and Wingie who can all play through the middle and Remy's wages will be high. We either want a young reserve from Chelsea to bolster the squad or a senior who's likely to start (Mikel or Moses). Personally I'd love to see Mikel at Stoke Remy can play wide right of a front 3. So can Walters, Wingie and Diouf.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2015 18:11:43 GMT
Remy can play wide right of a front 3. So can Walters, Wingie and Diouf. He is an upgrade on all 3 of them in that position.
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Post by steakandchips on Jul 4, 2015 18:12:08 GMT
Definitely take Van Ginkel as backup to N'Zoni/his replacement
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2015 18:12:30 GMT
I agree with Bayern he will double his wages which NOBODY would turn down. Going to a club that will win titles and cups and he could end up the number 1 who knows. It's very easy to turn down 80k a week when it isn't your salary! I tell you now nobody would turn that money down on here.
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Post by Tosh on Jul 4, 2015 18:12:58 GMT
You could probably add Hazards younger brother to that list also, or just tell Chelsea £6 mil plus Obi MIkel Gone to Gladbach perm. My bad, seriously though we should tell Chelsea we will take MIkel as part of the begovic desk, kills one of the 2 birds so to speak
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Post by numpty40 on Jul 4, 2015 18:16:11 GMT
So can Walters, Wingie and Diouf. He is an upgrade on all 3 of them in that position. I agree mate, it's just that he'll cost a fortune in wages when there are other areas of the team that that money would be better spent. Mikel is an upgrade on Whelan and Moses (if he can be persuaded to come) has shown what a good job he can do for us.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jul 4, 2015 18:16:35 GMT
Seems like quite a delicate situation with this swap deal. Dependant on firstly, if we get Shaqiri we won't want any of Moses/Salah/Van Ginkel. And secondly whether Nzonzi leaves decides if we're asking for Ake/Loftus-Cheek/Chalobah. But if we do sign Shaqiri, but Nzonzi does opt to stay, who would Chelsea have of interest to us? Kalas seemed a good shout from someone earlier in the thread, we're in the market for a fullback clearly so perhaps that's the third option. Presumably the confirmation of Begovic leaving is entirely dependant on the arrival of Shaqiri. I think as soon as we see one move, the rest will fall into place very quickly, and with pre-season tours nearing I can imagine we could see 2/3 departures and signings in a really short space of time next week.. Van Ginkel isn't a winger, so he wouldn't have a bearing on Shaqiri's deal. And Moses plays (mostly) on the opposite wing to Shaqiri so getting one should not exclude the other.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jul 4, 2015 18:18:29 GMT
Surprised nobody has mentioned Remy, he is down the pecking order at Chelsea now. Striker isn't a position we need now we've signed Joselu. We've also got Diouf, Crouch, Walters and Wingie who can all play through the middle and Remy's wages will be high. We either want a young reserve from Chelsea to bolster the squad or a senior who's likely to start (Mikel or Moses). Personally I'd love to see Mikel at Stoke Remy isn't a natural centre forward like Joselu or Diouf. Remy can play either side of a central striker so he operates in the positions we have been trying to fill this summer.
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Post by gonk on Jul 4, 2015 18:20:32 GMT
Marc does he want to run his contact down instead of us getting a fee ?.
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Post by numpty40 on Jul 4, 2015 18:24:41 GMT
Striker isn't a position we need now we've signed Joselu. We've also got Diouf, Crouch, Walters and Wingie who can all play through the middle and Remy's wages will be high. We either want a young reserve from Chelsea to bolster the squad or a senior who's likely to start (Mikel or Moses). Personally I'd love to see Mikel at Stoke Remy isn't a natural centre forward like Joselu or Diouf. Remy can play either side of a central striker so he operates in the positions we have been trying to fill this summer. We've been trying to fill the position of a wide player, I don't think Remy is that player.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Jul 4, 2015 18:25:16 GMT
Marc does he want to run his contact down instead of us getting a fee ?. I think he's referring to his actions at Swansea and the fact he's not even been remotely interested in discussing a new contract.
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Post by stokey127 on Jul 4, 2015 18:26:56 GMT
Quite honestly I couldn't give two hoots where Begovic goes as long as we get as much as we can. I'm surprised he hasn't hung on until his contract expires tbh. He would then have pocketed a massive signing on fee and Stoke would have been left with zilch. So to that end goodbye Bego thanks for your services and good luck playing second fiddle at Chelsea where you may get the odd game but don't try throwing your teddies out of the pram like you did here because Jose will fuck you off on loan at best or just buy a replacement leaving you with even less hope of making the Euros or next World Cup. I agree with begos big mistakes towards the end of the season thanks and goodbye. Only thought I had is marky dropping in such a way and pushing the mighty butland in devalued him, understand marks thinking for results but perhaps giving both a half in the last few games would have kept begos value up.
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Post by andystokey on Jul 4, 2015 18:29:14 GMT
We should say Salah even if it isn't our first choice then roll over on it if Milan get Shaq to come here. If Mancini wants Salah on loan then he pushes Shaq our way. Everyone is happy.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jul 4, 2015 18:31:38 GMT
Remy isn't a natural centre forward like Joselu or Diouf. Remy can play either side of a central striker so he operates in the positions we have been trying to fill this summer. We've been trying to fill the position of a wide player, I don't think Remy is that player. The majority of his best games at Newcastle were when he played as a wide player. When he led the line he was much less effective - and that opinion is shared by their fans not just by me. When we tried to sign him years ago he was known mainly as a winger/wide striker as his main position, with central striker very much a secondary option.
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Post by numpty40 on Jul 4, 2015 18:40:56 GMT
We've been trying to fill the position of a wide player, I don't think Remy is that player. The majority of his best games at Newcastle were when he played as a wide player. When he led the line he was much less effective - and that opinion is shared by their fans not just by me. When we tried to sign him years ago he was known mainly as a winger/wide striker as his main position, with central striker very much a secondary option. But he's not the type of wide player that Hughes appears to be looking for. We've been linked with Moses, Kono, Shaqiri and Afellay - all natural wide players. Remy is the type of striker who would be ideal in a 4-4-2 off the shoulder of the main striker.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jul 4, 2015 18:43:45 GMT
The majority of his best games at Newcastle were when he played as a wide player. When he led the line he was much less effective - and that opinion is shared by their fans not just by me. When we tried to sign him years ago he was known mainly as a winger/wide striker as his main position, with central striker very much a secondary option. But he's not the type of wide player that Hughes appears to be looking for. We've been linked with Moses, Kono, Shaqiri and Afellay - all natural wide players. Remy is the type of striker who would be ideal in a 4-4-2 off the shoulder of the main striker. Well at Newcastle he mostly played wide and not off the shoulder of the main striker.
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Post by numpty40 on Jul 4, 2015 18:54:23 GMT
But he's not the type of wide player that Hughes appears to be looking for. We've been linked with Moses, Kono, Shaqiri and Afellay - all natural wide players. Remy is the type of striker who would be ideal in a 4-4-2 off the shoulder of the main striker. Well at Newcastle he mostly played wide and not off the shoulder of the main striker. If you say so, however I remember him as the main striker at Newcastle
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 4, 2015 21:13:00 GMT
MailManchester United looking to hijack Chelsea's £8million move for Stoke City goalkeeper Asmir Begovic
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Post by numpty40 on Jul 4, 2015 21:19:45 GMT
MailManchester United looking to hijack Chelsea's £8million move for Stoke City goalkeeper Asmir Begovic If we insist on a loan player as well I'd prefer a deal with Chelsea, can't think of anyone available for loan at United I'd take.
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Post by AlliG on Jul 4, 2015 22:00:55 GMT
It's very easy to turn down 80k a week when it isn't your salary! I tell you now nobody would turn that money down on here. I love it when people tell us that "nobody would.....", because there are always exceptions to every statement While I might not be on £40k a week I could double my earnings tomorrow (doing the same job) by moving to London. (I have been offered and turned down a number of such opportunities - I could even stay with my current Company if I wanted) However, I already earn enough to allow me to lead the kind of lifestyle I want and therefore I can (and do) have different priorities in my life than just earning more money. I know some of you seem to find it difficult to believe, but, beyond a certain point, money really isn't that important. As my old gran used to say "Shrouds don't have pockets!"
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Post by lordb on Jul 4, 2015 22:10:42 GMT
A bidding war would be no bad thing. The Shit would be a better move for him. Far more likely to play ahead of Valdes than he would be Courtois. And he doesn't have to move house.
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Post by bertiestan on Jul 4, 2015 22:21:07 GMT
MailManchester United looking to hijack Chelsea's £8million move for Stoke City goalkeeper Asmir Begovic If we insist on a loan player as well I'd prefer a deal with Chelsea, can't think of anyone available for loan at United I'd take. I'd take januzaj mate.
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Post by Gods on Jul 4, 2015 22:26:51 GMT
MailManchester United looking to hijack Chelsea's £8million move for Stoke City goalkeeper Asmir Begovic I think Mrs. Bego would me much happier with that, she could continue her equestrian career seamlessly if Asmir went up the road to United. I bet that counts for something, he seems like a caring sharing sort of a guy to me.
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Post by jamerg on Jul 4, 2015 22:27:02 GMT
If we insist on a loan player as well I'd prefer a deal with Chelsea, can't think of anyone available for loan at United I'd take. I'd take januzaj mate. Great shout
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Post by baystokie on Jul 4, 2015 23:14:40 GMT
MailManchester United looking to hijack Chelsea's £8million move for Stoke City goalkeeper Asmir Begovic If we insist on a loan player as well I'd prefer a deal with Chelsea, can't think of anyone available for loan at United I'd take. Presumably we are asking Chelsea for a loan player as their bid is £8m; if Manu offer, say, £10m, then we would probably not be asking for any loanees?
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