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Post by stokeharry on May 19, 2015 22:28:35 GMT
BANG ON. Then the moralists among us would be that silent, you'd be worried about there wellbeing. They wouldn't bat an eye lid mate . And that's why I have no respect for them.
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Post by The Drunken Communist on May 19, 2015 22:31:35 GMT
I'm confussed here, what're we saying? That if a Muslim bakers refused to do a 'gay cake' we should be in uproar, but if a Christian bakers refuses to do a 'gay cake' we should moan about Muslims anyway?
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2015 22:36:09 GMT
We didnt win two world wars on the back of a queers desire to be noticed by worlds media on grounds of baking a wedding cake ,which is fraudulent for a start , because two people of the same sex cannot have a wedding . A wedding is something that involves a man and a woman. There are no ifs buts and puffs..... Pure exhibitionism by the warped minority and its appeasers. The same applies to the queer parades. You dont see normal heterosexual people doing this .
There is no need .
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Post by edgepotter on May 19, 2015 22:38:06 GMT
We didnt win two world wars on the back of a queers desire to be noticed by worlds media on grounds of baking a wedding cake ,which is fraudulent for a start , because two people of the same sex cannot have a wedding . A wedding is something that involves a man and a woman. There are no ifs buts and puffs..... Pure exhibitionism by the warped minority and its appeasers. The same applies to the queer parades. You dont see normal heterosexual people doing this . There is no need . Times have moved on, people are a lot more intelligent nowadays and realise its stupid to discriminate based on sexuality. Alan Turing had a bit of an impact didn't he.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2015 22:46:28 GMT
A wedding is a ceremony for a man and a woman .
It is not there for the purpose of two queers to exploit their homosexuality in the desperate attempt that they will change christian beliefs . It cannot . The ground rules are set in stone for immortality and cannot be changed.
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Post by stokeharry on May 19, 2015 23:09:58 GMT
A wedding is a ceremony for a man and a woman . It is not there for the purpose of two queers to exploit their homosexuality in the desperate attempt that they will change christian beliefs . It cannot . The ground rules are set in stone for immortality and cannot be changed. Nothing against gays mate, im not gay myself but my boyfriend is
Im no expert on Christianity but if god or jesus have specifically said that homosexuality is wrong then how can that message suddenly change just because its 2015. Why cant some things stay sacred. If I was gay I wouldn't want to get married in a church if I knew I wasn't really welcome. Why is it a big deal that a Christian cake maker wont make a cake that promotes homosexuality ? If they are true Christians then just like true muslims they obviously wont agree with it. Its one thing to oppress and hate gays, that's wrong but not agreeing with it doesn't make some one a bad person.
It's PC gone mad
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Post by PotterLog on May 20, 2015 0:33:26 GMT
If you think it's "ridiculous" to make a comparison between sexuality-based discrimination and race-based discrimination, it shows exactly why these kind of "publicity stunts" are necessary. Then get in touch with them and test the same laws in a muslim owned shop and we'll all look forward to you having the same view when they refuse What a completely pointless... "point". We're talking about discrimination on the grounds of sexuality, which I don't think is okay, whoever is guilty of it.
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Post by PotterLog on May 20, 2015 0:38:56 GMT
A wedding is a ceremony for a man and a woman . It is not there for the purpose of two queers to exploit their homosexuality in the desperate attempt that they will change christian beliefs . It cannot . The ground rules are set in stone for immortality and cannot be changed. Nothing against gays mate, im not gay myself but my boyfriend is
Im no expert on Christianity but if god or jesus have specifically said that homosexuality is wrong then how can that message suddenly change just because its 2015. Why cant some things stay sacred. If I was gay I wouldn't want to get married in a church if I knew I wasn't really welcome. Why is it a big deal that a Christian cake maker wont make a cake that promotes homosexuality ? If they are true Christians then just like true muslims they obviously wont agree with it. Its one thing to oppress and hate gays, that's wrong but not agreeing with it doesn't make some one a bad person.
It's PC gone mad
Nobody has to "agree" with anything. But if you refuse to provide a service for someone because of their sexuality then you are guilty of discrimination and you should expect to fall foul of the law. It's pretty simple stuff.
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Post by dutchstokie on May 20, 2015 6:26:46 GMT
We didnt win two world wars on the back of a queers desire to be noticed by worlds media on grounds of baking a wedding cake ,which is fraudulent for a start , because two people of the same sex cannot have a wedding . A wedding is something that involves a man and a woman. There are no ifs buts and puffs..... Pure exhibitionism by the warped minority and its appeasers. The same applies to the queer parades. You dont see normal heterosexual people doing this . There is no need . Hear hear.....as Alan Partridge once said: "God created Adam and Eve, he didnt create Adam and Steve"
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Post by edgepotter on May 20, 2015 6:54:58 GMT
I'm not really surprised to see some of the people who don't have much tolerance for Muslims now showing they haven't got much tolerance for gay people either
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Post by dutchstokie on May 20, 2015 7:02:08 GMT
I'm not really surprised to see some of the people who don't have much tolerance for Muslims now showing they haven't got much tolerance for gay people either
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Post by crapslinger on May 20, 2015 7:17:33 GMT
I'm not really surprised to see some of the people who don't have much tolerance for Muslims now showing they haven't got much tolerance for gay people either I wonder if there are many gay Muslims in Brown edge perhaps we should deal with gays the same way ISIS do.
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Post by dutchstokie on May 20, 2015 7:18:29 GMT
I wonder if there are many gay Muslims in Brown edge perhaps we should deal with gays the same way ISIS do. where do I sign ??
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Post by edgepotter on May 20, 2015 7:28:05 GMT
I wonder if there are many gay Muslims in Brown edge perhaps we should deal with gays the same way ISIS do. Your views are utterly abhorrent
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on May 20, 2015 7:33:29 GMT
It's true, it is only a cake and they could've gone somewhere else. But what if a shop selling something far more important refused service? The cake is not the issue, it's the principal. Personally I find Christianity in general far more offensive than homosexuality, but I'm aware that I'd be completely in the wrong if I refused someone service because they were Christian. Do you really it takes all sorts , I was not aware Christianity was a sexual preference god above you learn so much on this message board, you can not have your cake and eat it Christian and homosexuality are both life preferences, and neither are illegal. So they should be treated the same. So should shops be allowed to refuse service to people simply because they are Christian or homosexual? Or should there be laws against this?
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Post by lawrieleslie on May 20, 2015 7:44:16 GMT
IMO gay rights movements and their likes do more damage to their cause than just shutting the fuck up,and getting on with it. They're gay who gives a shit. The baker doesn't agree with gay marriages and its against his beliefs ...crack on mate. These gay pride marches trying to ram it down my throat just go away and get on with pushing poo as nobody is bothered anymore..........you've made your point last century and homosexuality is legal.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2015 7:45:08 GMT
I refuse to work for customers for many reasons.....it's my prerogative .......if I'd been the cake makers and realised I wasn't happy I'd have made my excuses in other ways so as the pathetic pc brigade can't get their teeth into it
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on May 20, 2015 7:56:49 GMT
IMO gay rights movements and their likes do more damage to their cause than just shutting the fuck up,and getting on with it. They're gay who gives a shit. The baker doesn't agree with gay marriages and its against his beliefs ...crack on mate. These gay pride marches trying to ram it down my throat just go away and get on with pushing poo as nobody is bothered anymore..........you've made your point last century and homosexuality is legal. Look at this thread - there's clearly plenty of people that still have a problem with homosexuals. Making something legal doesn't automatically mean you have equal rights, with gay marriage being one of the most obvious inequalities in some parts of the developed world. In terms of gay prides marches, I think they come from a belief that if two gays walked down a street hand-in-hand it would still raise quite a bit of commotion in a lot of places. If they feel they can't do it in public, then specific events are always going to be arranged where it can happen. Maybe I'm wrong, and maybe open shows of homosexuality would cause no bother in the street. Although I know some people who would have a problem with it.
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Post by harryburrows on May 20, 2015 7:57:17 GMT
IMO gay rights movements and their likes do more damage to their cause than just shutting the fuck up,and getting on with it. They're gay who gives a shit. The baker doesn't agree with gay marriages and its against his beliefs ...crack on mate. These gay pride marches trying to ram it down my throat just go away and get on with pushing poo as nobody is bothered anymore..........you've made your point last century and homosexuality is legal. Ram it down you're throat ?
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Post by harryburrows on May 20, 2015 7:59:24 GMT
I refuse to work for customers for many reasons.....it's my prerogative .......if I'd been the cake makers and realised I wasn't happy I'd have made my excuses in other ways so as the pathetic pc brigade can't get their teeth into it What are these reasons fraise? Do they follow your kipper agenda ?
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2015 8:47:50 GMT
I refuse to work for customers for many reasons.....it's my prerogative .......if I'd been the cake makers and realised I wasn't happy I'd have made my excuses in other ways so as the pathetic pc brigade can't get their teeth into it What are these reasons fraise? Do they follow your kipper agenda ? If they are not Givers I'm not interested ...unless they promise to be attention seeking and hard done by if they are not asian I'm not interested, I'll only work for others, if they promise to barter me in the bollox to working for next to nothing, and that "next to nothing" bounces when I put it in the bank. there are many other things but I'm busy pointing Julian's back entry
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Post by stokeharry on May 20, 2015 9:02:49 GMT
Nothing against gays mate, im not gay myself but my boyfriend is
Im no expert on Christianity but if god or jesus have specifically said that homosexuality is wrong then how can that message suddenly change just because its 2015. Why cant some things stay sacred. If I was gay I wouldn't want to get married in a church if I knew I wasn't really welcome. Why is it a big deal that a Christian cake maker wont make a cake that promotes homosexuality ? If they are true Christians then just like true muslims they obviously wont agree with it. Its one thing to oppress and hate gays, that's wrong but not agreeing with it doesn't make some one a bad person.
It's PC gone mad
Nobody has to "agree" with anything. But if you refuse to provide a service for someone because of their sexuality then you are guilty of discrimination and you should expect to fall foul of the law. It's pretty simple stuff. There's a few things called morals and principles mate. Life isn't simple. You are over simplifying a complex issue. I'd happily make them a gay cake . Makes no odds to me but I think I should also have the right to not actively support something that I don't agree with (if I didn't agree with it)
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Post by crapslinger on May 20, 2015 10:07:55 GMT
I wonder if there are many gay Muslims in Brown edge perhaps we should deal with gays the same way ISIS do. Your views are utterly abhorrent Maybe they are to you do I give a flying fuck NO, I am merely pointing out that certain sections of the Muslim community deal with homosexuality in other ways, stoning to death, throwing them from great heights etc, put in context with refusing to bake a gay cake on religious beliefs sort of pales into insignificance, there are individuals in this country who are travelling to Syria etc because they believe in that way of life which is worse would you say
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Post by dutchstokie on May 20, 2015 10:40:49 GMT
IMO gay rights movements and their likes do more damage to their cause than just shutting the fuck up,and getting on with it. They're gay who gives a shit. The baker doesn't agree with gay marriages and its against his beliefs ...crack on mate. These gay pride marches trying to ram it down my throat just go away and get on with pushing poo as nobody is bothered anymore..........you've made your point last century and homosexuality is legal. Surely they're more of a mince than a march....?? Attachment Deleted
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Post by stokeharry on May 20, 2015 10:49:13 GMT
IMO gay rights movements and their likes do more damage to their cause than just shutting the fuck up,and getting on with it. They're gay who gives a shit. The baker doesn't agree with gay marriages and its against his beliefs ...crack on mate. These gay pride marches trying to ram it down my throat just go away and get on with pushing poo as nobody is bothered anymore..........you've made your point last century and homosexuality is legal. Surely they're more of a mince than march....?? I was in a Manchester last summer and DURING THE DAY when kids and family's were about , a couple of topless oiled up camp buff looking gay fellas were walking round the streets with a bucket collecting money for the up coming gay pride event. I didn't give them any money because I don't agree with it It's not homosexuality that I don't agree with but it's not something to be proud of is it. It's not necessarily anything to be ashamed of but why be proud of your sexuality. Why be proud that you like cock ? How many straight people go round asking for a straight pride march. If they just got on with it I think most people these days wouldn't care less. I know I wouldn't but at the same time why announce it to the world. Why flaunt it in people's faces. I aren't anti gay because to be honest it doesn't affect me but if my son told me he was gay I'm not going to lie I'd be bothered. As long as he was happy I'd be fine with it because being happy in life is the most important thing but there would always be a part of me deep down that would be disappointed.
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Post by lawrieleslie on May 20, 2015 10:52:03 GMT
IMO gay rights movements and their likes do more damage to their cause than just shutting the fuck up,and getting on with it. They're gay who gives a shit. The baker doesn't agree with gay marriages and its against his beliefs ...crack on mate. These gay pride marches trying to ram it down my throat just go away and get on with pushing poo as nobody is bothered anymore..........you've made your point last century and homosexuality is legal. Ram it down you're throat ? Sorry Harry I meant ram it up my arse.
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Post by crapslinger on May 20, 2015 10:52:50 GMT
IMO gay rights movements and their likes do more damage to their cause than just shutting the fuck up,and getting on with it. They're gay who gives a shit. The baker doesn't agree with gay marriages and its against his beliefs ...crack on mate. These gay pride marches trying to ram it down my throat just go away and get on with pushing poo as nobody is bothered anymore..........you've made your point last century and homosexuality is legal. Surely they're more of a mince than march....?? Mincing or flouncing with gay abandon, I seem to remember Mike Wolffe organising one of these events for our City, then we had Winterfest that went well not sure why he felt we had to change Christmas to Winterfest
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Post by dutchstokie on May 20, 2015 10:54:47 GMT
Surely they're more of a mince than march....?? Mincing or flouncing with gay abandon, I seem to remember Mike Wolffe organising one of these events for our City, then we had Winterfest that went well not sure why he felt we had to change Christmas to Winterfest Sorry - whats Winterfest...genuinely dont know Obviuosly summat to do with Chrimbo but....
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Post by stokeharry on May 20, 2015 10:57:41 GMT
Surely they're more of a mince than march....?? Mincing or flouncing with gay abandon, I seem to remember Mike Wolffe organising one of these events for our City, then we had Winterfest that went well not sure why he felt we had to change Christmas to Winterfest I think you know why Christmas was changed to winterfest mate Can't offend the Muslims and other minorities now can we :/
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Post by crapslinger on May 20, 2015 10:58:25 GMT
Mincing or flouncing with gay abandon, I seem to remember Mike Wolffe organising one of these events for our City, then we had Winterfest that went well not sure why he felt we had to change Christmas to Winterfest Sorry - whats Winterfest...genuinely dont know Obviuosly summat to do with Chrimbo but.... It is what certain PC crazy individuals in the UK call Christmas, something to do with not upsetting non Christians seriously you could not make it up could you, this is one seriously fucked up country.
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