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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2015 13:21:50 GMT
I see on the Beeb World Service that a baker in London has been fined for refusing to make a wedding cake for a same sex gay wedding. FFS. If I was him I'd send em a box of Chocolate Eclairs and tell em to shove em up their arses.
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on May 19, 2015 13:37:08 GMT
It must be tough for the baker to have his whole way of life undermined and be singled out for something he believes in.
When will these nasty gays stop persecuting all those bakers.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2015 13:40:00 GMT
It must be tough for the baker to have his whole way of life undermined and be singled out for something he believes in. When will these nasty gays stop persecuting all those bakers. Instead of taking him to court they should have settled it with a traditional bum fight.
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Post by nicholasjalcock on May 19, 2015 13:41:29 GMT
I see on the Beeb World Service that a baker in London has been fined for refusing to make a wedding cake for a same sex gay wedding. FFS. If I was him I'd send em a box of Chocolate Eclairs and tell em to shove em up their arses. In the United Kingdom, we don't indulge in the aforementioned daily practices which enticed people to emigrate to China
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2015 13:46:07 GMT
I see on the Beeb World Service that a baker in London has been fined for refusing to make a wedding cake for a same sex gay wedding. FFS. If I was him I'd send em a box of Chocolate Eclairs and tell em to shove em up their arses. In the United Kingdom, we don't indulge in the aforementioned daily practices which enticed people to emigrate to China It's only Gay if you push back.....
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Post by nicholasjalcock on May 19, 2015 13:55:39 GMT
In the United Kingdom, we don't indulge in the aforementioned daily practices which enticed people to emigrate to China It's only Gay if you push back..... I'll take your word for it
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Post by crapslinger on May 19, 2015 14:11:16 GMT
I see on the Beeb World Service that a baker in London has been fined for refusing to make a wedding cake for a same sex gay wedding. FFS. If I was him I'd send em a box of Chocolate Eclairs and tell em to shove em up their arses. He could have made a huge fairy cake, with a chocolate penis inserted into it.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on May 19, 2015 15:10:44 GMT
He should make them a cake made with puff pastry.
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Post by Billybigbollox on May 19, 2015 15:10:57 GMT
It wasn't in London, it was in Northern Ireland, where gay marriage is not legal yet. The case was won on a breach of contract as the bakery accepted the job initially and then changed their mind when they realised it included the word gay on the decoration. Is it just me or does a geezer who decorates cakes have a whiff of lavender about him anyway?
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2015 16:12:27 GMT
It must be tough for the baker to have his whole way of life undermined and be singled out for something he believes in. When will these nasty gays stop persecuting all those bakers. Why cant the gay couple just take it on the chin (pun intended) and except that the cake makers don't want their custom? im free to chose who my customers are......I'm obviously easy going as that's how julian and I met but, I could have said no
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on May 19, 2015 17:26:28 GMT
It must be tough for the baker to have his whole way of life undermined and be singled out for something he believes in. When will these nasty gays stop persecuting all those bakers. Why cant the gay couple just take it on the chin (pun intended) and except that the cake makers don't want their custom? im free to chose who my customers are......I'm obviously easy going as that's how julian and I met but, I could have said no Why doesn't the baker just join the rest of the world in the 21st century?
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Post by Ryan_Shawjosh on May 19, 2015 17:33:20 GMT
I think he has every right to refuse. If he just starts dishing out same sex marriage cakes willy nilly, he'll get himself in trouble when he starts running low on supplies and has an odd number of men/women to go on top of the cake.
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Post by crapslinger on May 19, 2015 17:39:37 GMT
Why cant the gay couple just take it on the chin (pun intended) and except that the cake makers don't want their custom? im free to chose who my customers are......I'm obviously easy going as that's how julian and I met but, I could have said no Why doesn't the baker just join the rest of the world in the 21st century? Is the baker not free to decide who he works for ?, maybe he does not agree with homosexuality or should he be forced to make a gay marriage cake against his will.
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Post by edgepotter on May 19, 2015 17:45:55 GMT
It must be tough for the baker to have his whole way of life undermined and be singled out for something he believes in. When will these nasty gays stop persecuting all those bakers. Absolutely spot on
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2015 17:46:28 GMT
Why cant the gay couple just take it on the chin (pun intended) and except that the cake makers don't want their custom? im free to chose who my customers are......I'm obviously easy going as that's how julian and I met but, I could have said no Why doesn't the baker just join the rest of the world in the 21st century? is that the 21st century where,if you agree with them then they have the right to their opinion but if you disagree with them then they're bigots you mean? Personally i have no issue whatsoever with gay marriage but i also think that if a born again christian (which the baker is) has an issue making a cake with the slogan "Support gay marriage" (which was the slogan asked for...it wasn't actually for a wedding but as prop for a gay rights campaign) when they themselves don't support it them they should 100% have the right to refuse to do it. it's not as if you're denying the people who commissioned the cake any basic human right (pretty sure that cake isn't discussed by the UN) and there are plenty of other bakers in the yellow pages they could use.if you ask me they've intentionally made a mountain out of a molehill purely for the publicity of it all and i find that kind of cynical behaviour far more repulsive than anyone expressing their right to free speech (whether i agree with their opinion or not)
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Post by PotterLog on May 19, 2015 17:57:58 GMT
Why doesn't the baker just join the rest of the world in the 21st century? is that the 21st century where,if you agree with them then they have the right to their opinion but if you disagree with them then they're bigots you mean? Personally i have no issue whatsoever with gay marriage but i also think that if a born again christian (which the baker is) has an issue making a cake with the slogan "Support gay marriage" (which was the slogan asked for...it wasn't actually for a wedding but as prop for a gay rights campaign) when they themselves don't support it them they should 100% have the right to refuse to do it. it's not as if you're denying the people who commissioned the cake any basic human right (pretty sure that cake isn't discussed by the UN) and there are plenty of other bakers in the yellow pages they could use.if you ask me they've intentionally made a mountain out of a molehill purely for the publicity of it all and i find that kind of cynical behaviour far more repulsive than anyone expressing their right to free speech (whether i agree with their opinion or not) So what if they were doing it for publicity, that's what any campaign against injustice needs isn't it? They clearly wanted to test the law. How is it cynical? As to your suggestion they just find another baker, presumably you'd offer the same trivial solution to a black person who'd been refused service somewhere under similar circumstances?
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Post by crapslinger on May 19, 2015 18:34:58 GMT
is that the 21st century where,if you agree with them then they have the right to their opinion but if you disagree with them then they're bigots you mean? Personally i have no issue whatsoever with gay marriage but i also think that if a born again christian (which the baker is) has an issue making a cake with the slogan "Support gay marriage" (which was the slogan asked for...it wasn't actually for a wedding but as prop for a gay rights campaign) when they themselves don't support it them they should 100% have the right to refuse to do it. it's not as if you're denying the people who commissioned the cake any basic human right (pretty sure that cake isn't discussed by the UN) and there are plenty of other bakers in the yellow pages they could use.if you ask me they've intentionally made a mountain out of a molehill purely for the publicity of it all and i find that kind of cynical behaviour far more repulsive than anyone expressing their right to free speech (whether i agree with their opinion or not) So what if they were doing it for publicity, that's what any campaign against injustice needs isn't it? They clearly wanted to test the law. How is it cynical? As to your suggestion they just find another baker, presumably you'd offer the same trivial solution to a black person who'd been refused service somewhere under similar circumstances? Why do born again Christians not like black people, what a ridiculous comparison, as mick says a publicity stunt look at me/us we are gay.
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Post by harryburrows on May 19, 2015 18:42:43 GMT
It must be tough for the baker to have his whole way of life undermined and be singled out for something he believes in. When will these nasty gays stop persecuting all those bakers. Why cant the gay couple just take it on the chin (pun intended) and except that the cake makers don't want their custom? im free to chose who my customers are......I'm obviously easy going as that's how julian and I met but, I could have said no Fucking fruit cake
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Post by boothenboy75 on May 19, 2015 18:56:22 GMT
Why cant the gay couple just take it on the chin (pun intended) and except that the cake makers don't want their custom? im free to chose who my customers are......I'm obviously easy going as that's how julian and I met but, I could have said no :P Why doesn't the baker just join the rest of the world in the 21st century? Is this the same 21st century with freedom of speech and expression? If a couple of blokes want to get married thats up to them. If a baker wants to pick and choose his customers based on his beliefs thats up to him. Both seem a bit strange to me, but whats it got to do with me, you or the British courts?
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2015 19:59:56 GMT
Why cant the gay couple just take it on the chin (pun intended) and except that the cake makers don't want their custom? im free to chose who my customers are......I'm obviously easy going as that's how julian and I met but, I could have said no Why doesn't the baker just join the rest of the world in the 21st century? What, turn gay?....suppose it'll sort the increase in population
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Post by yeokel on May 19, 2015 20:17:49 GMT
I wonder if someone had asked him to do the cake with "Queer Bashers Rule O.K." on it and he'd refused, would he still have been prosecuted?
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Post by partickpotter on May 19, 2015 20:48:26 GMT
Why cant the gay couple just take it on the chin (pun intended) and except that the cake makers don't want their custom? im free to chose who my customers are......I'm obviously easy going as that's how julian and I met but, I could have said no Why doesn't the baker just join the rest of the world in the 21st century? Remember this is Northern Ireland - half of them are still stuck in the late 17th century.
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on May 19, 2015 21:07:59 GMT
Why doesn't the baker just join the rest of the world in the 21st century? is that the 21st century where,if you agree with them then they have the right to their opinion but if you disagree with them then they're bigots you mean? Personally i have no issue whatsoever with gay marriage but i also think that if a born again christian (which the baker is) has an issue making a cake with the slogan "Support gay marriage" (which was the slogan asked for...it wasn't actually for a wedding but as prop for a gay rights campaign) when they themselves don't support it them they should 100% have the right to refuse to do it. it's not as if you're denying the people who commissioned the cake any basic human right (pretty sure that cake isn't discussed by the UN) and there are plenty of other bakers in the yellow pages they could use.if you ask me they've intentionally made a mountain out of a molehill purely for the publicity of it all and i find that kind of cynical behaviour far more repulsive than anyone expressing their right to free speech (whether i agree with their opinion or not) It's true, it is only a cake and they could've gone somewhere else. But what if a shop selling something far more important refused service? The cake is not the issue, it's the principal. Personally I find Christianity in general far more offensive than homosexuality, but I'm aware that I'd be completely in the wrong if I refused someone service because they were Christian.
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Post by dutchstokie on May 19, 2015 21:23:25 GMT
It wasn't in London, it was in Northern Ireland, where gay marriage is not legal yet. The case was won on a breach of contract as the bakery accepted the job initially and then changed their mind when they realised it included the word gay on the decoration. Is it just me or does a geezer who decorates cakes have a whiff of lavender about him anyway? "whiff of lavender" - BRILLIANT !
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Post by dutchstokie on May 19, 2015 21:26:19 GMT
God help em when they order their 'mince' pies at Christmas then
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Post by PotterLog on May 19, 2015 22:12:18 GMT
So what if they were doing it for publicity, that's what any campaign against injustice needs isn't it? They clearly wanted to test the law. How is it cynical? As to your suggestion they just find another baker, presumably you'd offer the same trivial solution to a black person who'd been refused service somewhere under similar circumstances? Why do born again Christians not like black people, what a ridiculous comparison, as mick says a publicity stunt look at me/us we are gay. If you think it's "ridiculous" to make a comparison between sexuality-based discrimination and race-based discrimination, it shows exactly why these kind of "publicity stunts" are necessary.
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Post by desman2 on May 19, 2015 22:20:04 GMT
Why do born again Christians not like black people, what a ridiculous comparison, as mick says a publicity stunt look at me/us we are gay. If you think it's "ridiculous" to make a comparison between sexuality-based discrimination and race-based discrimination, it shows exactly why these kind of "publicity stunts" are necessary. Then get in touch with them and test the same laws in a muslim owned shop and we'll all look forward to you having the same view when they refuse
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Post by crapslinger on May 19, 2015 22:21:29 GMT
is that the 21st century where,if you agree with them then they have the right to their opinion but if you disagree with them then they're bigots you mean? Personally i have no issue whatsoever with gay marriage but i also think that if a born again christian (which the baker is) has an issue making a cake with the slogan "Support gay marriage" (which was the slogan asked for...it wasn't actually for a wedding but as prop for a gay rights campaign) when they themselves don't support it them they should 100% have the right to refuse to do it. it's not as if you're denying the people who commissioned the cake any basic human right (pretty sure that cake isn't discussed by the UN) and there are plenty of other bakers in the yellow pages they could use.if you ask me they've intentionally made a mountain out of a molehill purely for the publicity of it all and i find that kind of cynical behaviour far more repulsive than anyone expressing their right to free speech (whether i agree with their opinion or not) It's true, it is only a cake and they could've gone somewhere else. But what if a shop selling something far more important refused service? The cake is not the issue, it's the principal. Personally I find Christianity in general far more offensive than homosexuality, but I'm aware that I'd be completely in the wrong if I refused someone service because they were Christian. Do you really it takes all sorts , I was not aware Christianity was a sexual preference god above you learn so much on this message board, you can not have your cake and eat it
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Post by crapslinger on May 19, 2015 22:24:44 GMT
If you think it's "ridiculous" to make a comparison between sexuality-based discrimination and race-based discrimination, it shows exactly why these kind of "publicity stunts" are necessary. Then get in touch with them and test the same laws in a muslim owned shop and we'll all look forward to you having the same view when they refuse BANG ON.
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Post by desman2 on May 19, 2015 22:26:45 GMT
Then get in touch with them and test the same laws in a muslim owned shop and we'll all look forward to you having the same view when they refuse BANG ON. Then the moralists among us would be that silent, you'd be worried about there wellbeing.
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