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Post by hartzchoco on May 16, 2015 16:46:16 GMT
Because it has everything to do with it. Geoff gets utterly abused on this board, for no other reason than where he hails from. Say what you want. We both know what the truth is. You have no basis whatsoever for saying that. You're embarrassing yourself. Your kidding, right? You cant be fucking serious.
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Post by chiefdelilah on May 16, 2015 16:47:15 GMT
You've entered irrational mode I see where you're not prepared to discuss this logically so we'd probably better leave it. For what it's worth I think the American fans we've picked up have been great for this board and it makes me proud to see us develop such a following over there - it's a sign of how far we've come. I don't rate Palacios either, that must make me anti-Honduran. Not convinced by Tex, must mean I hate both Slovakians and Brazilians. Who gets abused on this board more that Geoff? Try your best to be honest. He has supporters and detractors, just like loads of players. Over the years Walters has had far worse stick. Wilson's had it just as bad. There are people on here who aren't fans of Whelan, Arnie, Bardsley, Diouf, we've even got some loonies who don't rate Nzonzi.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 16, 2015 16:47:28 GMT
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Post by Beardy200 on May 16, 2015 16:47:54 GMT
I think it has been well established that Cameron is better than Bardsley but neither are good enough. It says something that it is largely our American friends left to defend him. It's a bit like when only us Stokies were left to defend Wilko. The anti American slant on this board drives me fucking insane. Geoff has a damn good game and he gets ripped. He makes a mistake and theres 15 fucking threads about it. It's your sport, we get it. Don't be so fucking pissed off that a few Yanks can actually play it too. Anti American slant? You're a precious soul aren't you. ;D
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Post by march4 on May 16, 2015 16:48:16 GMT
Walters???? Is he playing right back now? I'm confused. Matron, matron - more pills please. Well March I'm not surprised your confused... Everything you post is off. See a RB has a winger infront of him to pass too, if the RW can't come to get the ball the RB has to bring it forward... If Geoff had Moses or Arnie infront of him... Well he'd have more help... Problem is he has an ageing Walters who can't play a one-two for his life as he has the worst passing for Stoke for any player this last few months. Now I understand. What I was trying to explain is that as it was becoming clear that Wilko was struggling to reach to required standard, it was those who come from the same place who were last to defend him i.e. we had a sentimental attachment. I think it is becoming a similar situation with Geoff. You and our other Americam friends have an affinity with him which is natural and not to be criticised. However, it does appear that it is our American supporters who are now backing up Geoff's performances. The vast majority of our support want an upgrade at right back See - a sensible post (sort of) PS it doesn't go down well to accuse fellow Stoke fans of disliking a player because of his nationality or calling someone a 'nutter'!!
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2015 16:49:15 GMT
Two best seasons for the club in decades. Geoff being the best right back in both. You can mask over that as much as you want, but it's a pretty impressive achievement. But you don't think that about Whelan? That's a fair point.
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Post by chiefdelilah on May 16, 2015 16:49:19 GMT
You have no basis whatsoever for saying that. You're embarrassing yourself. Your kidding, right? You cant be fucking serious. Again, you have no basis for saying it. Nobody is slating America or Americans as a country or a people on here. The criticism is all based on performance. People have picked out specific area of his game they're not convinced by.
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Post by hartzchoco on May 16, 2015 16:49:58 GMT
The anti American slant on this board drives me fucking insane. Geoff has a damn good game and he gets ripped. He makes a mistake and theres 15 fucking threads about it. It's your sport, we get it. Don't be so fucking pissed off that a few Yanks can actually play it too. Anti American slant? You're a precious soul aren't you. ;D Play it off. It's true, and you know it.
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Post by stokemanusa on May 16, 2015 16:50:38 GMT
Well March I'm not surprised your confused... Everything you post is off. See a RB has a winger infront of him to pass too, if the RW can't come to get the ball the RB has to bring it forward... If Geoff had Moses or Arnie infront of him... Well he'd have more help... Problem is he has an ageing Walters who can't play a one-two for his life as he has the worst passing for Stoke for any player this last few months. Now I understand. What I was trying to explain is that as it was becoming clear that Wilko was struggling to reach to required standard, it was those who come from the same place who were last to defend him i.e. we had a sentimental attachment. I think it is becoming a similar situation with Geoff. You and our other Americam friends have an affinity with him which is natural and not to be criticised. However, it does appear that it is our American supporters who are now backing up Geoff's performances. The vast majority of our support want an upgrade at right back See - a sensible post (sort of) PS it doesn't go down well to accuse fellow Stoke fans of disliking a player because of his nationality or calling someone a 'nutter'!! ' Yes they do and they are right. Trippier should be brought in and Bardsley should be fucked off. BTW the Stokies have always called him the "American" when slagging him... not the "Stokie."
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on May 16, 2015 16:52:13 GMT
Now I understand. What I was trying to explain is that as it was becoming clear that Wilko was struggling to reach to required standard, it was those who come from the same place who were last to defend him i.e. we had a sentimental attachment. I think it is becoming a similar situation with Geoff. You and our other Americam friends have an affinity with him which is natural and not to be criticised. However, it does appear that it is our American supporters who are now backing up Geoff's performances. The vast majority of our support want an upgrade at right back See - a sensible post (sort of) PS it doesn't go down well to accuse fellow Stoke fans of disliking a player because of his nationality or calling someone a 'nutter'!! ' Yes they do and they are right. Trippier should be brought in and Bardsley should be fucked off. BTW the Stokies have always called him the "American" when slagging him... not the "Stokie." Don't you call him 'the american'?? The commentator today called him 'the American international' is that wrong as well?
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Post by march4 on May 16, 2015 16:52:20 GMT
Now I understand. What I was trying to explain is that as it was becoming clear that Wilko was struggling to reach to required standard, it was those who come from the same place who were last to defend him i.e. we had a sentimental attachment. I think it is becoming a similar situation with Geoff. You and our other Americam friends have an affinity with him which is natural and not to be criticised. However, it does appear that it is our American supporters who are now backing up Geoff's performances. The vast majority of our support want an upgrade at right back See - a sensible post (sort of) PS it doesn't go down well to accuse fellow Stoke fans of disliking a player because of his nationality or calling someone a 'nutter'!! ' Yes they do and they are right. Trippier should be brought in and Bardsley should be fucked off. BTW the Stokies have always called him the "American" when slagging him... not the "Stokie." I don't think there is any xenophbia, mate. If there was, we would only have Ryan and Crouchy!
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Post by Beardy200 on May 16, 2015 16:54:03 GMT
Anti American slant? You're a precious soul aren't you. ;D Play it off. It's true, and you know it. Do I fuck ;D I actually quite like Geoff and still think you're talking bollocks.
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Post by hartzchoco on May 16, 2015 16:54:24 GMT
Your kidding, right? You cant be fucking serious. Again, you have no basis for saying it. Nobody is slating America or Americans as a country or a people on here. The criticism is all based on performance. People have picked out specific area of his game they're not convinced by. I feel I have every basis for saying it. If the criticism is based strictly on performance, there wouldn't be 34 anti Geoff threads on this board as we speak.
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Post by mywaydesolzan on May 16, 2015 16:54:25 GMT
Well watch the first six minutes and tell me what area of the pitch we were bum (translation 'ass') fucked in. I actually think the manager is right to play him over Bardsley but fuck me he's bastard shite there. Watch our Captain for the entire first half.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on May 16, 2015 16:54:49 GMT
Let's get it right.
We were average.
If we upped a gear we'd have won but we didn't.
0-0 fair result regardless of which country the players come from.
I'm bladdered and have a Stella chalice in my hand so I'm OK and look forward to pretending not to be too pissed when mar lady picks me up
Record points
Record wins
9th again
Horrendous injury list
Well in Hughes
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Post by metalhead on May 16, 2015 16:54:54 GMT
Well March I'm not surprised your confused... Everything you post is off. See a RB has a winger infront of him to pass too, if the RW can't come to get the ball the RB has to bring it forward... If Geoff had Moses or Arnie infront of him... Well he'd have more help... Problem is he has an ageing Walters who can't play a one-two for his life as he has the worst passing for Stoke for any player this last few months. Now I understand. What I was trying to explain is that as it was becoming clear that Wilko was struggling to reach to required standard, it was those who come from the same place who were last to defend him i.e. we had a sentimental attachment. I think it is becoming a similar situation with Geoff. You and our other Americam friends have an affinity with him which is natural and not to be criticised. However, it does appear that it is our American supporters who are now backing up Geoff's performances. The vast majority of our support want an upgrade at right back See - a sensible post (sort of) PS it doesn't go down well to accuse fellow Stoke fans of disliking a player because of his nationality or calling someone a 'nutter'!! I'm a season ticket holder and I was born in Stoke, just in case you were unsure.
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Post by stokemanusa on May 16, 2015 16:55:30 GMT
' Yes they do and they are right. Trippier should be brought in and Bardsley should be fucked off. BTW the Stokies have always called him the "American" when slagging him... not the "Stokie." Don't you call him 'the american'?? The commentator today called him 'the American international' is that wrong as well? I do but not when slagging him even after a great defensive performance like today. The commentator was praising him after a crushing tackle, unlike you. You probably punched your dog.
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Post by kustokie on May 16, 2015 16:55:46 GMT
Calm down lads. We're 9th FFS
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 16, 2015 16:57:11 GMT
Now I understand. What I was trying to explain is that as it was becoming clear that Wilko was struggling to reach to required standard, it was those who come from the same place who were last to defend him i.e. we had a sentimental attachment. I think it is becoming a similar situation with Geoff. You and our other Americam friends have an affinity with him which is natural and not to be criticised. However, it does appear that it is our American supporters who are now backing up Geoff's performances. The vast majority of our support want an upgrade at right back See - a sensible post (sort of) PS it doesn't go down well to accuse fellow Stoke fans of disliking a player because of his nationality or calling someone a 'nutter'!! I'm a season ticket holder and I was born in Stoke, just in case you were unsure. You do come across as one of his American fanboys that are blinded by his tan and good looks! I get that! I actually like Geoff. Always have done, just not at right back!
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Post by metalhead on May 16, 2015 16:59:31 GMT
I'm a season ticket holder and I was born in Stoke, just in case you were unsure. You do come across as one of his American fanboys that are blinded by his tan and good looks! I get that! I actually like Geoff. Always have done, just not at right back! Lol. I'm not a fanboy and you know it. I've said all season that an upgrade to Geoff would be nice. What I don't like is the vitriol posted. Even when he plays well, some people can't help but rip him apart.
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Post by hartzchoco on May 16, 2015 16:59:46 GMT
Well March I'm not surprised your confused... Everything you post is off. See a RB has a winger infront of him to pass too, if the RW can't come to get the ball the RB has to bring it forward... If Geoff had Moses or Arnie infront of him... Well he'd have more help... Problem is he has an ageing Walters who can't play a one-two for his life as he has the worst passing for Stoke for any player this last few months. Then stop disliking a player because of his nationality.
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Post by mywaydesolzan on May 16, 2015 17:00:15 GMT
Let's get it right. We were average. If we upped a gear we'd have won but we didn't. 0-0 fair result regardless of which country the players come from. I'm bladdered and have a Stella chalice in my hand so I'm OK and look forward to pretending not to be too pissed when mar lady picks me up Record points Record wins 9th again Horrendous injury list Well in Hughes Post of the evening even if you are half cut.
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Post by chiefdelilah on May 16, 2015 17:00:15 GMT
Again, you have no basis for saying it. Nobody is slating America or Americans as a country or a people on here. The criticism is all based on performance. People have picked out specific area of his game they're not convinced by. I feel I have every basis for saying it. If the criticism is based strictly on performance, there wouldn't be 34 anti Geoff threads on this board as we speak. Were all the threads criticising Wollscheid anti-German then?
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Post by stokemanusa on May 16, 2015 17:00:15 GMT
You do come across as one of his American fanboys that are blinded by his tan and good looks! I get that! I actually like Geoff. Always have done, just not at right back! Lol. I'm not a fanboy and you know it. I've said all season that an upgrade to Geoff would be nice. What I don't like is the vitriol posted. Even when he plays well, some people can't help but rip him apart. Did his tan help him sneak in the shadows and get 6 tackles? The most on the pitch?
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Post by kustokie on May 16, 2015 17:00:42 GMT
Don't you call him 'the american'?? The commentator today called him 'the American international' is that wrong as well? I do but not when slagging him even after a great defensive performance like today. The commentator was praising him after a crushing tackle, unlike you. You probably punched your dog. it is kind of irritating that the English commentators refer to players by their natiionali. "The American " "the Welshman " "the Bosnian" etc. but never "the Englishman". Just saying.
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Post by metalhead on May 16, 2015 17:01:58 GMT
I feel I have every basis for saying it. If the criticism is based strictly on performance, there wouldn't be 34 anti Geoff threads on this board as we speak. Were all the threads criticising Wollscheid anti-German then? No but all things considered Wolly got off easy compared to Geoff.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on May 16, 2015 17:02:06 GMT
Let's get it right. We were average. If we upped a gear we'd have won but we didn't. 0-0 fair result regardless of which country the players come from. I'm bladdered and have a Stella chalice in my hand so I'm OK and look forward to pretending not to be too pissed when mar lady picks me up Record points Record wins 9th again Horrendous injury list Well in Hughes Post of the evening even if you are half cut. I'm full cut and on my way home. Bonus points for me!
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Post by stokemanusa on May 16, 2015 17:02:29 GMT
I do but not when slagging him even after a great defensive performance like today. The commentator was praising him after a crushing tackle, unlike you. You probably punched your dog. it is kind of irritating that the English commentators refer to players by their natiionali. "The American " "the Welshman " "the Bosnian" etc. but never "the Englishman". Just saying. England has a love in with nations other than it's own. Weirdly. You can get ostracized for flying the St G but go on put up a 40 foot Bosnian flag.
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Post by chiefdelilah on May 16, 2015 17:02:50 GMT
Were all the threads criticising Wollscheid anti-German then? No but all things considered Wolly got off easy compared to Geoff. I don't think that's true at all.
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Post by upthefud on May 16, 2015 17:03:24 GMT
I like Geoff's versatility but we need an upgrade for our starting XI.
I watched the Blackburn disaster on an American stream and their pundits tried saying he was our player of the season and too good for us, I'm sorry but like Paul Ince they don't help him.
Some fans on this board only support us because certain players from their own country play for us, and they are unable to criticise them when they play poorly. They aren't too difficult to spot.
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