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Post by march4 on May 16, 2015 21:39:46 GMT
Errmm I think that reply just proves it!! Explain? I like Cameron but he can't cross for toffee. Sorry, mate, it was a bit naughty of me. Didn't mean to offend.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 16, 2015 21:39:51 GMT
Explain? I like Cameron but he can't cross for toffee. Ask Crouchie if Geoff can 'cross for toffee', whatever the fuck that means. One assist all season, he is great at crossing you're right. Jesus wept.
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Post by stokerstayinup on May 16, 2015 21:41:32 GMT
That would be a great post if any of it was true. Have you read any of this thread? Unfortunately,I've read all of it.
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Post by stokerstayinup on May 16, 2015 21:41:59 GMT
Explain? I like Cameron but he can't cross for toffee. Sorry, mate, it was a bit naughty of me. Didn't mean to offend. No offence in the slightest taken.
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Post by march4 on May 16, 2015 21:42:20 GMT
Have you read any of this thread? Unfortunately,I've read all of it. And none of us will get that 10mins of our lives back.
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Post by stokerstayinup on May 16, 2015 21:44:44 GMT
Unfortunately,I've read all of it. And none of us will get that 10mins of our lives back. I've had worse!!
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Post by hartzchoco on May 16, 2015 21:44:48 GMT
Ask Crouchie if Geoff can 'cross for toffee', whatever the fuck that means. One assist all season, he is great at crossing you're right. Jesus wept. Well, it was a fucking beauty. Not that you'd ever dream of giving him credit for it.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 16, 2015 21:45:55 GMT
One assist all season, he is great at crossing you're right. Jesus wept. Well, it was a fucking beauty. Not that you'd ever dream of giving him credit for it.
Oh it was but overall his crossing is shit!
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Post by chiefdelilah on May 16, 2015 21:46:09 GMT
One assist all season, he is great at crossing you're right. Jesus wept. Well, it was a fucking beauty. Not that you'd ever dream of giving him credit for it.
It was a marvellous cross. If he came even close to crossing that well most of the time nobody would ever complain about his crossing.
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Post by stokerstayinup on May 16, 2015 21:49:14 GMT
Well, it was a fucking beauty. Not that you'd ever dream of giving him credit for it.
It was a marvellous cross. If he came even close to crossing that well most of the time nobody would ever complain about his crossing. Haha,you sure about that
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Post by hartzchoco on May 16, 2015 21:50:16 GMT
Well, it was a fucking beauty. Not that you'd ever dream of giving him credit for it.
It was a marvellous cross. If he came even close to crossing that well most of the time nobody would ever complain about his crossing. It's Geoff. Everyone would still complain.
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Post by chiefdelilah on May 16, 2015 21:50:30 GMT
It was a marvellous cross. If he came even close to crossing that well most of the time nobody would ever complain about his crossing. Haha,you sure about that Yep. It isn't a conspiracy.
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Post by chiefdelilah on May 16, 2015 21:51:31 GMT
It was a marvellous cross. If he came even close to crossing that well most of the time nobody would ever complain about his crossing. It's Geoff. Everyone would still complain. Yes, it's never his fault is it? He was showered with praise for the cross. It's just that we then had people mocking the idea that he couldn't cross, as if one good one made up for all the dreadful ones.
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Post by jonnybravo on May 16, 2015 21:53:00 GMT
So the right hand side is what makes stoke a top 6 team!! You should go for the man United job with your managerial expertise Pretty much yeah. We have 2 goalies who could play in the top 4. We have 2 centre halves who could play in the top 4. We have the Fonz and Bojan down the middle who could play in the top 4. Diouf is a striker who played up front for a season can score 15 goals. You've then got a solid pro in Pieters on one side. We could do better at left back if we're being brutal. Moses if he signs is imo a top 6 player. Arnie is on his day (good for the bench too). Whelan is a solid DM, we need to do better here too if we can to genuinely challenge for that top 6 (challenge like Southampton have). I don't think Cameron is solid, far from it. I don't think Bardsley is solid, far from it. Get the right back to a better level than the left back then we should be on to a winner. Walters is solid but do you want a solid winger? I don't, if we can improve here (it's an obvious place we need to improve, Wingie showed that last year) then we can strive to challenge for the top 6. So you add those two positions and we should challenge. I think we have a core of special players. Were another winger and atleast one striker away.
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Post by stokerstayinup on May 16, 2015 21:53:22 GMT
Haha,you sure about that Yep. It isn't a conspiracy. I agree,never said it was.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2015 21:54:58 GMT
It was a marvellous cross. If he came even close to crossing that well most of the time nobody would ever complain about his crossing. Haha,you sure about that Whenever I see a player sticking in a great cross, I stand there shouting at him.
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Post by boskampsflaps on May 16, 2015 21:56:07 GMT
Show me the abuse, no ones called him a twat etc, all they've said is they don't rate him or they do and offered reasons, now if you mean poster to poster then yes there's been some, I've been called a cunt in the past for example, but non directed at Cameron. Honestly,I can't be arsed. Riiiiiiiiiiiight.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 16, 2015 21:56:19 GMT
Pretty much yeah. We have 2 goalies who could play in the top 4. We have 2 centre halves who could play in the top 4. We have the Fonz and Bojan down the middle who could play in the top 4. Diouf is a striker who played up front for a season can score 15 goals. You've then got a solid pro in Pieters on one side. We could do better at left back if we're being brutal. Moses if he signs is imo a top 6 player. Arnie is on his day (good for the bench too). Whelan is a solid DM, we need to do better here too if we can to genuinely challenge for that top 6 (challenge like Southampton have). I don't think Cameron is solid, far from it. I don't think Bardsley is solid, far from it. Get the right back to a better level than the left back then we should be on to a winner. Walters is solid but do you want a solid winger? I don't, if we can improve here (it's an obvious place we need to improve, Wingie showed that last year) then we can strive to challenge for the top 6. So you add those two positions and we should challenge. I think we have a core of special players. Were another winger and atleast one striker away. Maybe for finishing there yes but challenging? Not for me. But then I love the starting XI we can have and undoubtedly the right hand side is considerably weaker than the rest of the starting XI.
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Post by hartzchoco on May 16, 2015 22:04:33 GMT
It's Geoff. Everyone would still complain. Yes, it's never his fault is it? He was showered with praise for the cross. It's just that we then had people mocking the idea that he couldn't cross, as if one good one made up for all the dreadful ones. Geoff Cameron showered with praise. That is some good shit.
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Post by chiefdelilah on May 16, 2015 22:06:19 GMT
Yes, it's never his fault is it? He was showered with praise for the cross. It's just that we then had people mocking the idea that he couldn't cross, as if one good one made up for all the dreadful ones. Geoff Cameron showered with praise. That is some good shit. Mate, if it's easier for you to believe the paranoid fairytale you've concocted, good luck to you.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 16, 2015 22:09:39 GMT
Yes, it's never his fault is it? He was showered with praise for the cross. It's just that we then had people mocking the idea that he couldn't cross, as if one good one made up for all the dreadful ones. Geoff Cameron showered with praise. That is some good shit. Do you believe in the chemtrail conspiracy?
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Post by stokerstayinup on May 16, 2015 22:24:05 GMT
Honestly,I can't be arsed. Riiiiiiiiiiiight. Yep,I've got a life,so you win.
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Post by boskampsflaps on May 16, 2015 22:28:13 GMT
Yep,I've got a life,so you win.
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Post by stokerstayinup on May 16, 2015 22:29:55 GMT
Haha,you sure about that Whenever I see a player sticking in a great cross, I stand there shouting at him. I've already critcised his crossing,if you think players don't get unfair criticism on here then you're fuckin deluded.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2015 22:34:58 GMT
Geoff gets so many threads because he splits the support, he can be solid for a good length of time, but the mistakes he does make are normally very noticeable. I remember he came on in midfield against Swansea and completely changed the game, and everyone proceeded to say he did! He even started there the next week as I remember, to absolutely no qualms from the Stoke crowd at all. But then you see performances from him like at Man Utd, where every touch he has gave away the ball, and people complain. That's not xenophobic, or an agenda, it's speaking about what you see.
People have different opinions, doesn't mean they're out to get you if it's different to yours, this is the problem with the bloody precious society we have today, everything is someone out to get someone else. Calm down, and accept some people dunna think Geoff is that good, some do.
And aswell, geoff has had a lot more threads than wollscheid cause he's been here longer, and I very much refuse to believe he's had more stick than Walters.
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Post by stokefaninde on May 17, 2015 2:18:47 GMT
Admitted Geoff fan here in no small part because of his nationality. I struggled early on with his abuse and to an extent still do but I largely learned the tactics of the back position through the view of a Pulis take on the position which was mainly a defensive one. I'm really enjoying seeing what they can do in a more offensive minded position.
That being said I can understand the frustration with his crossing and defensive positioning from the more knowledgeable fans who grew up with the sport. I took much of todays game to watch Trippier to see what the fuss is about and damn the guy is good. I'd have no problems and would like to see us get him and have him start at right back for us next season, even over Geoff. I understand what he could do for us.
What I can't understand is how so many on here cannot see that he is far and away the best at the position we currently have. I have looked hard at Bardsley's play and don't see how there is even a comparison.. Besides a small stretch early in the season he gave absolutely nothing going forward and was a liability in the defense. I think it would make more sense to acknowledge what he does bring to the team, which is an uncanny ability to put in tackles and dispossess the other team of the ball. He often is the one advancing the ball and starting strings of play where we look dangerous. He has the athleticism to positively affect the game that no one else who plays the position has, even our left backs. I honestly don't understand why many on here never complain about Pieters if they complain about Geoff. Sure he is more reliable defensively in his positioning but offers little offensively. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate him as a valuable member of the team but why hasn't there been more talk of Muniesa playing the left back role, in which he can affect the game offensively and defensively?
Moral of the story, I get Geoff's faults but wonder if some on here just refuse to notice his strengths and how he has helped this club reach top half status for two years now? It has happened with him, not in spite of him.
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