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Post by bayernoatcake on May 16, 2015 16:30:49 GMT
It shows that statistically (as most of us know with our eyes) there's very little between either right back. One of these days you should really try pulling your head out of your ass. It is, that's why I can see the glaringly obvious!
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Post by march4 on May 16, 2015 16:31:27 GMT
I think it has been well established that Cameron is better than Bardsley but neither are good enough.
It says something that it is largely our American friends left to defend him. It's a bit like when only us Stokies were left to defend Wilko.
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Post by stokemanusa on May 16, 2015 16:33:24 GMT
I think it has been well established that Cameron is better than Bardsley but neither are good enough. It says something that it is largely our American friends left to defend him. It's a bit like when only us Stokies were left to defend Wilko. Where does Walter's third consecutive no show comprehend in your mind... and WTF is this Stokies left to defend Wilko bollocks? LOL Your a nutter.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 16, 2015 16:33:33 GMT
It shows that statistically (as most of us know with our eyes) there's very little between either right back. It's shows a stand in RB who is from Houston Dynamo and is really a midfielder is better than a ex Man Utd has been. That's what it shows Bayern... Geoff is a right back....you keep telling me two consecutive managers have trusted him there so he must be! Make your mind up. I see the bollocks about hating Americans has come out to (not from you). This is too funny.
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Post by chiefdelilah on May 16, 2015 16:34:02 GMT
That was my point mate. Pretty big 'unless'. I still don't think Cameron is any better. It's a pretty important "point" that we've tried to replace him once already, and failed. Only because his replacement wasn't a sufficient improvement - ie effectively by default. You can only every talk about him in relation to Bardsley, who you didn't want from the start. Pretty telling.
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 16, 2015 16:34:18 GMT
We should have been 2-0 down after 6 minutes due to Geoff fucking Cameron. Get a fucking clue. Well watch the first six minutes and tell me what area of the pitch we were bum (translation 'ass') fucked in. I actually think the manager is right to play him over Bardsley but fuck me he's bastard shite there.
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Post by metalhead on May 16, 2015 16:34:45 GMT
The only thing that does is show how much of a waste Bardsley is... lol It shows that statistically (as most of us know with our eyes) there's very little between either right back. Which is ironic considered you've said for ages that Phil is better. Really, he's not, those stats suggest that Geoff is marginally better, something I've said for a while. It's fair to say that there's nothing between the two and if Mark doesn't sign a right back, Geoff should start. I wouldn't mind Trippier.
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Post by chiefdelilah on May 16, 2015 16:35:04 GMT
You don't think Hughes will sign another right back? Out of interest, would you be such a fan of his, do you think, if he was from, say, Dundee? Would you hate him so fucking much if he wasn't from the States? I don't hate him. I don't give a fuck where he or any of them comes from. Why would I?
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Post by stokemanusa on May 16, 2015 16:35:15 GMT
It's shows a stand in RB who is from Houston Dynamo and is really a midfielder is better than a ex Man Utd has been. That's what it shows Bayern... Geoff is a right back....you keep telling me two consecutive managers have trusted him there so he must be! Make your mind up. I see the bollocks about hating Americans has come out to (not from you). This is too funny. No you make up your mind... First he's not defensively good enough... lol Then it's his passing... Which he's still not the worst in the shirt for every week... Walters is and now he IS a RB not a stand in... Your something else LOL
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2015 16:35:55 GMT
Two best seasons for the club in decades. Geoff being the best right back in both.
You can mask over that as much as you want, but it's a pretty impressive achievement.
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Post by hartzchoco on May 16, 2015 16:36:04 GMT
I think it has been well established that Cameron is better than Bardsley but neither are good enough. It says something that it is largely our American friends left to defend him. It's a bit like when only us Stokies were left to defend Wilko. The anti American slant on this board drives me fucking insane. Geoff has a damn good game and he gets ripped. He makes a mistake and theres 15 fucking threads about it. It's your sport, we get it. Don't be so fucking pissed off that a few Yanks can actually play it too.
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Post by chiefdelilah on May 16, 2015 16:36:52 GMT
I think it has been well established that Cameron is better than Bardsley but neither are good enough. It says something that it is largely our American friends left to defend him. It's a bit like when only us Stokies were left to defend Wilko. The anti American slant on this board drives me fucking insane. Geoff has a damn good game and he gets ripped. He makes a mistake and theres 15 fucking threads about it. It's your sport, we get it. Don't be so fucking pissed off that a few Yanks can actually play it too. Why do you keep playing this card? Him being American is literally nothing to do with it, why can't you accept that?
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Post by chiefdelilah on May 16, 2015 16:37:55 GMT
Two best seasons for the club in decades. Geoff being the best right back in both. You can mask over that as much as you want, but it's a pretty impressive achievement. But you don't think that about Whelan? Right back has been a problem position for ages. You can finish 9th and still have them.
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Post by hartzchoco on May 16, 2015 16:38:10 GMT
Would you hate him so fucking much if he wasn't from the States? I don't hate him. I don't give a fuck where he or any of them comes from. Why would I? Bull fucking shit.
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Post by stokemanusa on May 16, 2015 16:38:22 GMT
Two best seasons for the club in decades. Geoff being the best right back in both. You can mask over that as much as you want, but it's a pretty impressive achievement. They will never say Geoff is a better RB even though Bayern's own stats he pulled show Geoff is marginally better in the Position... Like I've said from day one.
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Post by march4 on May 16, 2015 16:38:25 GMT
I think it has been well established that Cameron is better than Bardsley but neither are good enough. It says something that it is largely our American friends left to defend him. It's a bit like when only us Stokies were left to defend Wilko. Where does Walter's third consecutive no show comprehend in your mind... and WTF is this Stokies left to defend Wilko bollocks? LOL Your a nutter. Walters???? Is he playing right back now? I'm confused. Matron, matron - more pills please.
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Post by chiefdelilah on May 16, 2015 16:39:07 GMT
Two best seasons for the club in decades. Geoff being the best right back in both. You can mask over that as much as you want, but it's a pretty impressive achievement. They will never say Geoff is a better RB even though Bayern's own stats he pulled show Geoff is marginally better in the Position... Like I've said from day one. I thought you said he was miles better and pisses all over him?
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 16, 2015 16:39:55 GMT
It shows that statistically (as most of us know with our eyes) there's very little between either right back. Which is ironic considered you've said for ages that Phil is better. Really, he's not, those stats suggest that Geoff is marginally better, something I've said for a while. It's fair to say that there's nothing between the two and if Mark doesn't sign a right back, Geoff should start. I wouldn't mind Trippier. I do think Phil is marginally better (I also think stats are utter shit) but I've been consistent with the line that I think both are bollocks....which is the point of including Pieters to show them both up! If Hughes doesn't sign a right back he needs his fucking head testing! The point of using stats-it's a language they seem to understand.
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on May 16, 2015 16:40:02 GMT
I think it has been well established that Cameron is better than Bardsley but neither are good enough. It says something that it is largely our American friends left to defend him. It's a bit like when only us Stokies were left to defend Wilko. Where does Walter's third consecutive no show comprehend in your mind... and WTF is this Stokies left to defend Wilko bollocks? LOL Your a nutter. You mean the Jon Walters with 10 goals and 5 assist this season?
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Post by stokemanusa on May 16, 2015 16:41:04 GMT
Where does Walter's third consecutive no show comprehend in your mind... and WTF is this Stokies left to defend Wilko bollocks? LOL Your a nutter. Walters???? Is he playing right back now? I'm confused. Matron, matron - more pills please. Well March I'm not surprised your confused... Everything you post is off. See a RB has a winger infront of him to pass too, if the RW can't come to get the ball the RB has to bring it forward... If Geoff had Moses or Arnie infront of him... Well he'd have more help... Problem is he has an ageing Walters who can't play a one-two for his life as he has the worst passing for Stoke for any player this last few months.
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Post by chiefdelilah on May 16, 2015 16:41:44 GMT
I don't hate him. I don't give a fuck where he or any of them comes from. Why would I? Bull fucking shit. You've entered irrational mode I see where you're not prepared to discuss this logically so we'd probably better leave it. For what it's worth I think the American fans we've picked up have been great for this board and it makes me proud to see us develop such a following over there - it's a sign of how far we've come. I don't rate Palacios either, that must make me anti-Honduran. Not convinced by Tex, must mean I hate both Slovakians and Brazilians.
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Post by stokemanusa on May 16, 2015 16:41:48 GMT
They will never say Geoff is a better RB even though Bayern's own stats he pulled show Geoff is marginally better in the Position... Like I've said from day one. I thought you said he was miles better and pisses all over him? No I said he was better in most areas and was right. Even defensively when people like yourself said Bardsley was.
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Post by hartzchoco on May 16, 2015 16:42:17 GMT
The anti American slant on this board drives me fucking insane. Geoff has a damn good game and he gets ripped. He makes a mistake and theres 15 fucking threads about it. It's your sport, we get it. Don't be so fucking pissed off that a few Yanks can actually play it too. Why do you keep playing this card? Him being American is literally nothing to do with it, why can't you accept that? Because it has everything to do with it. Geoff gets utterly abused on this board, for no other reason than where he hails from. Say what you want. We both know what the truth is.
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Post by chiefdelilah on May 16, 2015 16:42:29 GMT
I thought you said he was miles better and pisses all over him? No I said he was better in most areas and was right. Even defensively when people like yourself said Bardsley was. I don't think he is better defensively. You could lose him in a phone box.
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Post by stokemanusa on May 16, 2015 16:42:47 GMT
Where does Walter's third consecutive no show comprehend in your mind... and WTF is this Stokies left to defend Wilko bollocks? LOL Your a nutter. You mean the Jon Walters with 10 goals and 5 assist this season? Yea, He should be CF Jon Walters.
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Post by chiefdelilah on May 16, 2015 16:43:00 GMT
Why do you keep playing this card? Him being American is literally nothing to do with it, why can't you accept that? Because it has everything to do with it. Geoff gets utterly abused on this board, for no other reason than where he hails from. Say what you want. We both know what the truth is. You have no basis whatsoever for saying that. You're embarrassing yourself.
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Post by metalhead on May 16, 2015 16:43:20 GMT
Which is ironic considered you've said for ages that Phil is better. Really, he's not, those stats suggest that Geoff is marginally better, something I've said for a while. It's fair to say that there's nothing between the two and if Mark doesn't sign a right back, Geoff should start. I wouldn't mind Trippier. I do think Phil is marginally better (I also think stats are utter shit) but I've been consistent with the line that I think both are bollocks....which is the point of including Pieters to show them both up! If Hughes doesn't sign a right back he needs his fucking head testing! The point of using stats-it's a language they seem to understand. you need to use average stats imo.
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Post by kustokie on May 16, 2015 16:43:21 GMT
Why do these Cameron threads a always end up as the second War of Independence. We won it already. Nuff said.
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Post by stokemanusa on May 16, 2015 16:43:22 GMT
No I said he was better in most areas and was right. Even defensively when people like yourself said Bardsley was. I don't think he is better defensively. You could lose him in a phone box. Hughes does and well So do I. 6 tackles and 4 int Bards could only dream.
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Post by hartzchoco on May 16, 2015 16:44:56 GMT
You've entered irrational mode I see where you're not prepared to discuss this logically so we'd probably better leave it. For what it's worth I think the American fans we've picked up have been great for this board and it makes me proud to see us develop such a following over there - it's a sign of how far we've come. I don't rate Palacios either, that must make me anti-Honduran. Not convinced by Tex, must mean I hate both Slovakians and Brazilians. Who gets abused on this board more that Geoff? Try your best to be honest.
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