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Post by bathstoke on May 8, 2015 9:42:42 GMT
Maybe if Labour can get Dan Jarvis as their man, he could appeal to white van/mondeo man  |
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Post by Nick1984 on May 8, 2015 9:49:31 GMT
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Post by Gods on May 8, 2015 9:51:18 GMT
Daniel Owen Woolgar Jarvis MBE A Kings College and Sandhurst man. Not convinced he quite ticks the "man of the people" box, don't they need an unreconstructed man of the North or Midlands? A sort of Mick McCarthy/ Sam Allardyce of the political world  |
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Post by edgepotter on May 8, 2015 11:28:45 GMT
Maybe if Labour can get Dan Jarvis as their man, he could appeal to white van/mondeo man I feel the same mate. |
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Post by redstriper on May 8, 2015 11:31:29 GMT
Each to their own. I feel like Stoke just beat Arsenal to maintain their premier league status for another term.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2015 12:13:47 GMT
Relegated....Bollocks...It feels like we have just won the Champions League, FA CUP, Prem Lge & Lge Cup quadruple .
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Post by bathstoke on May 8, 2015 12:40:03 GMT
Relegated....Bollocks...It feels like we have just won the Champions League, FA CUP, Prem Lge & Lge Cup quadruple . I have no experience of those things & neither do you, but as a Stoke fan, I know what relegation feels like |
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2015 12:45:45 GMT
This is what I thought from a couple of days ago and in the face of all the poles saying the contrary ..... Okay ....I'm going to stick my neck out here and say that Cameron will get 25 more than Milliband. Cleggs party will suffer a 80% decrease in support . SNP will win all but three Scottish seats . UKIP will win 3 seats Plaid Cymru will do very well in the valleys with a 20 % increase in support. Read more: oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/243611/election-prediction?page=3#ixzz3ZYByahb2Pretty damned accurate .....I was spot on with the SNP figures...! |
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2015 12:48:32 GMT
Relegated....Bollocks...It feels like we have just won the Champions League, FA CUP, Prem Lge & Lge Cup quadruple . I have no experience of those things & neither do you, but as a Stoke fan, I know what relegation feels like I suppose you have to use your imagination ? |
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2015 12:55:40 GMT
Relegated....Bollocks...It feels like we have just won the Champions League, FA CUP, Prem Lge & Lge Cup quadruple . I have no experience of those things & neither do you, but as a Stoke fan, I know what relegation feels like Well I have plenty of experience of Labour Governments through the 70's 90's and the 2000's...And believe you me, relegation does not even come close to them dark days, and lets hope now that the Tories build on this and put us back at the top table of world politics where we belong... As a foot note...FTSE up by 2%....I bet had Milliband and Wee Jimmy Krankie got in it would have plummeted. |
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Post by bathstoke on May 8, 2015 13:02:06 GMT
I have no experience of those things & neither do you, but as a Stoke fan, I know what relegation feels like Well I have plenty of experience of Labour Governments through the 70's 90's and the 2000's...And believe you me, relegation does not even come close to them dark days, and lets hope now that the Tories build on this and put us back at the top table of world politics where we belong... As a foot note...FTSE up by 2%....I bet had Milliband and Wee Jimmy Krankie got in it would have plummeted. Are you eligible to vote in Britain!?! |
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2015 13:55:32 GMT
Well I have plenty of experience of Labour Governments through the 70's 90's and the 2000's...And believe you me, relegation does not even come close to them dark days, and lets hope now that the Tories build on this and put us back at the top table of world politics where we belong... As a foot note...FTSE up by 2%....I bet had Milliband and Wee Jimmy Krankie got in it would have plummeted. Are you eligible to vote in Britain!?! Yup.....And I did.....And my MP kept his seat....And my government kept theirs.... Did you...Did Yours.... |
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Post by bathstoke on May 8, 2015 14:15:21 GMT
Are you eligible to vote in Britain!?! Yup.....And I did.....And my MP kept his seat....And my government kept theirs.... Did you...Did Yours.... What's up, doesn't your host nation want you |
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2015 14:20:33 GMT
Yup.....And I did.....And my MP kept his seat....And my government kept theirs.... Did you...Did Yours.... What's up, doesn't your host nation want you Of course they do. They adore me here, because I spend my tax free earnings ( huge by the way ) here. But you are probably too upset to realise that Ex pats get a vote. Oh well. See you in 5 years... |
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Post by The Drunken Communist on May 8, 2015 14:28:01 GMT
Why do ex-pats get a vote?
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2015 14:32:29 GMT
Why do ex-pats get a vote? Still registered, still got property, still got a voice. But I live abroad... |
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Post by britsabroad on May 8, 2015 14:32:48 GMT
Why do ex-pats get a vote? Why do people on benefits get a vote? Same answer |
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Post by ukcstokie on May 8, 2015 14:34:33 GMT
Feels like Stoke got relegated?
Nope. Feels more like Man Utd beat Arsenal.
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Post by The Drunken Communist on May 8, 2015 14:41:58 GMT
Why do ex-pats get a vote? Why do people on benefits get a vote? Same answer People on benefits answer would be "Because I live here". I can't see how an ex-pat can give the same answer. |
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2015 14:48:30 GMT
Labour having any influence over the country would have been a disaster. I'm no Tory but them winning was the least worst outcome  |
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on May 8, 2015 14:55:09 GMT
I have no experience of those things & neither do you, but as a Stoke fan, I know what relegation feels like Well I have plenty of experience of Labour Governments through the 70's 90's and the 2000's...And believe you me, relegation does not even come close to them dark days, and lets hope now that the Tories build on this and put us back at the top table of world politics where we belong... As a foot note...FTSE up by 2%....I bet had Milliband and Wee Jimmy Krankie got in it would have plummeted. Why do we belong at the top table of world politics? |
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2015 14:57:15 GMT
Well I have plenty of experience of Labour Governments through the 70's 90's and the 2000's...And believe you me, relegation does not even come close to them dark days, and lets hope now that the Tories build on this and put us back at the top table of world politics where we belong... As a foot note...FTSE up by 2%....I bet had Milliband and Wee Jimmy Krankie got in it would have plummeted. Why do we belong at the top table of world politics? Because we are one of the biggest economies in the world....Next question... |
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Post by geoff321 on May 8, 2015 14:58:13 GMT
Quote:
" Since he became Chancellor in 2010 George Osborne has created more new debt than every Labour Government in history COMBINED. "
See what you mean mayf.
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Post by bathstoke on May 8, 2015 15:16:22 GMT
Why do we belong at the top table of world politics? Because we are one of the biggest economies in the world....Next question... Why are you such a dick |
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Post by matelot1996 on May 8, 2015 15:17:01 GMT
I have no experience of those things & neither do you, but as a Stoke fan, I know what relegation feels like Well I have plenty of experience of Labour Governments through the 70's 90's and the 2000's...And believe you me, relegation does not even come close to them dark days, and lets hope now that the Tories build on this and put us back at the top table of world politics where we belong... As a foot note...FTSE up by 2%....I bet had Milliband and Wee Jimmy Krankie got in it would have plummeted. Ah bless... He thinks because the Eton massive have been re-elected we may have some political power at the Top table. The only thing that gives you any clout at the top table is the size / capability of your Military and in case you have had your head up your arse for the past 10 years we haven't got one! We haven't got any clout at he EU table let alone the world table. |
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Post by britsabroad on May 8, 2015 15:18:45 GMT
Why do people on benefits get a vote? Same answer People on benefits answer would be "Because I live here". I can't see how an ex-pat can give the same answer. Because over a 5 year term they can easily come back. For the present they don't contribute, and neither do those who choose to stay on benefits. Personally i don't think either should get a vote. You don't put in, you don't get a say on what gets put out. |
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Post by britsabroad on May 8, 2015 15:19:45 GMT
Quote: " Since he became Chancellor in 2010 George Osborne has created more new debt than every Labour Government in history COMBINED. " See what you mean mayf. Now i have explained this to you before, and i know others here have explained it to you, so why do you still not understand the difference between debt and deficit? |
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on May 8, 2015 15:23:50 GMT
Why do we belong at the top table of world politics? Because we are one of the biggest economies in the world....Next question... We are amply represented at global level in the biggest economic organisations - both the IMF and World Bank measure each member's voting power by their GDP. Next reason. |
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Post by geoff321 on May 8, 2015 15:30:23 GMT
Two issues brits. First your comment on people on benefits not getting a vote, I take it you mean the UNEMPLOYED because if you mean benefits in general then that would account for millions of people, if you do mean the unemployed then quite frankly you need to hang your head in shame.
Secondly I fully understand the difference between debt and deficit, Osborne has done what I said, if you think he hasn't then post back the statistics.
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Post by britsabroad on May 8, 2015 15:44:33 GMT
Two issues brits. First your comment on people on benefits not getting a vote, I take it you mean the UNEMPLOYED because if you mean benefits in general then that would account for millions of people, if you do mean the unemployed then quite frankly you need to hang your head in shame. Secondly I fully understand the difference between debt and deficit, Osborne has done what I said, if you think he hasn't then post back the statistics. I was very careful in my wording. Those who CHOOSE to be on long term (ie stay on) benefits. If you understand it, why do you keep going on about one of the main positives of the Coalition's reign as if its such a negative? The deficit is reducing massively. Until it becomes a surplus of course the total debt will rise, and it would be impossible to do otherwise with the size of the deficit Osborne inherited. |
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