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Post by Bojan Mackey on May 5, 2015 10:37:05 GMT
He was fucking crap at Fulham. How old was he though mate? I give you Mame Biram Diouf at Man U and even Blackburn. I see your point, however wherever he's gone it's just not happened, I remember when he first burst onto the scene and talks of starring for Roma, Juventus and the like started, instead he ends up at a Fulham side fighting relegation. He reeks of Freddy Adu too much for me, stay well clear Stoke.
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Post by MilanStokie on May 5, 2015 10:57:13 GMT
If Italy is on our radar for a striker, there are better players out there. Time to look at the teams that have over-performed, like Sassuolo and Palermo, maybe Genoa. A few that would be on my list: Mbaye Niang - AC Milan (On loan at Genoa) Domenico Berardi - Juventus (On loan at Sassuolo) Luis Muriel - Sampdoria Okaka or Eder fall a bit behind these The problem with signing players from Italy is a lot of them are 'co-owned' meaning you have to agree a fee with both clubs. Pretty sure Berardi is the new hottest prospect in Italy so that's a no go. Niang could be more up our street though. Is he? If he was so highly rated, I dont think Juve would have loaned him out twice in a row to the same team fighting relegation. In addition, his Sassuolo teammate is currently 1 of the main strikers for the national team and only a couple of years older. Berardi is nowhere near the national team. Berardi has potential but by no means the next big thing.
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Post by GeneralFaye on May 5, 2015 11:04:21 GMT
38 goals in 92 games for a 20 year old is a pretty decent record don't you agree? plus, he is contracted to Juventus, just because his opportunities are limited due to the fine form of players like Tevez doesn't mean he isn't a hot prospect does it? just look at players like Lukaku and Sturridge in England, players who couldn't get a kick at Chelsea but were obviously talented. I'm not saying he's in that class but I reckon he has a very bright future. But hey, that's just my opinion.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2015 11:29:16 GMT
Err hes a big strong unit - very one sided -err ---umm - thats about it really
'in Hughes we trust' though
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2015 11:42:06 GMT
Watched 5 or 6 times this season.
Absolutely immense at getting hold of and keeping the ball when played to feet, chest, head or in the channel.
Other than that he's pretty shit.
Shooting is woeful and just doesn't get into the box/goal scoring positions.
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Post by FakeStokeBloke on May 5, 2015 11:44:53 GMT
38 goals in 92 games for a 20 year old is a pretty decent record don't you agree? plus, he is contracted to Juventus, just because his opportunities are limited due to the fine form of players like Tevez doesn't mean he isn't a hot prospect does it? just look at players like Lukaku and Sturridge in England, players who couldn't get a kick at Chelsea but were obviously talented. I'm not saying he's in that class but I reckon he has a very bright future. But hey, that's just my opinion. I rate Beradi and I made a thread about him a while back! I do think he's destined for bigger things than us though
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Post by thestatusquo on May 5, 2015 11:53:32 GMT
Watched 5 or 6 times this season. Absolutely immense at getting hold of and keeping the ball when played to feet, chest, head or in the channel. Other than that he's pretty shit. Shooting is woeful and just doesn't get into the box/goal scoring positions. Sidibe ?
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Post by cousindupree on May 5, 2015 12:04:11 GMT
For a team who lack goals (we need to be hitting 50 in a season to move up the table) do we really need another Diouf to either compete or as backup. Improving our goalscoring in my view should be the priority. Charlie Austin please Mr Coates.
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Post by Danstoke82 on May 5, 2015 12:06:15 GMT
He was fucking crap at Fulham. This. Why are we bothering with Okaka? He was woeful at Fulham a few years back, I struggle to believe he has got any better since. Sod the cheaper option as in my opinion Okaka will pretty much be in the same mould as Diouf, obviously Diouf being a lot better.
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Post by viewfrominside on May 5, 2015 12:09:13 GMT
Why on earth would you sign a 4 in 33 man when you need a goalscorer? It's like eating an ice lolly during a siberian winter.
Get the cash out, get the manager the player "he" wants not the cheap option.
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Post by viewfrominside on May 5, 2015 12:12:18 GMT
He was fucking crap at Fulham. This. Why are we bothering with Okaka? He was woeful at Fulham a few years back, I struggle to believe he has got any better since. Sod the cheaper option as in my opinion Okaka will pretty much be in the same mould as Diouf, obviously Diouf being a lot better. If it's true it stinks of the all singing and dancing transfer team offering Hughes shortlist of a pool of players with low contract durations meaning they are cheap
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2015 12:12:43 GMT
Watched 5 or 6 times this season. Absolutely immense at getting hold of and keeping the ball when played to feet, chest, head or in the channel. Other than that he's pretty shit. Shooting is woeful and just doesn't get into the box/goal scoring positions. Sidibe ? More of a John Gayle
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Post by jezzascfc on May 5, 2015 12:22:58 GMT
A squad filler at best when we need a new bona fide star striker and leader of the line. We need a Didier Drogba and we're in danger of getting a Billy Whitehurst!
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Post by foster on May 5, 2015 12:25:38 GMT
A squad filler at best when we need a new bona fide star striker and leader of the line. We need a Didier Drogba and we're in danger of getting a Billy Whitehurst! That's true. We don't need squad fillers or backups anymore. We need upgrades or first team competition at worst.
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Post by viewfrominside on May 5, 2015 12:28:31 GMT
At least if we get him in early we have a Pre seaon to turn him from Kyle Lightbourne to Diego Costa. Hughes is a football manager not a miracle worker. No way would he choose a 4 in 33 man if the cash was there. That's one goal every 8.25 games! or 1 goal every 742 game minutes! or 1 goal every 12 and a half hours! Sorry can't beleive we are intrested in this guy. It must be his agent trying to drum up a bit of intrest
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Post by stokiejoeofalsager on May 5, 2015 13:13:03 GMT
As said above, I'd really push the boat out for Austin. To score as many goals as he has for that QPR side is pretty phenomenal, he's still young etc. If you really narrow down who he might go to you can probably rule out the big 5 which means he's a realistic target if funds allowed.
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Post by metalhead on May 5, 2015 13:33:45 GMT
If Hughes has worked with him, then I trust his judgement.
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Post by jimmygscfc on May 5, 2015 13:34:22 GMT
As for Austin, in a world where Ings is linked with Man u and Liverpool, anything is possible. I know Ings won't cost a fee, but you get my drift….
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Post by robwahlmann on May 5, 2015 15:00:03 GMT
Never seen him play, but with those stats I must admit I hope we look elsewhere!
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Post by switch on May 5, 2015 15:23:21 GMT
He looks like a Diouf with a good first touch and some composure. Certainly looks like the physicality of the league wouldn't be a problem and his link up play looks decent.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2015 15:26:14 GMT
As for Austin, in a world where Ings is linked with Man u and Liverpool, anything is possible. I know Ings won't cost a fee, but you get my drift…. Ings will cost a fee as he is under 24 and Burnley will receive compo, prob 4 or 5 million. Hence why they chose not to sell him in January
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Post by jimmygscfc on May 5, 2015 15:33:42 GMT
As for Austin, in a world where Ings is linked with Man u and Liverpool, anything is possible. I know Ings won't cost a fee, but you get my drift…. Ings will cost a fee as he is under 24 and Burnley will receive compo, prob 4 or 5 million. Hence why they chose not to sell him in January You're right of course mate, but the fee is chicken feed. It's the wages that'll turn his head which is why we wouldn't stand a chance. He's alright but nowhere near as good as some make out.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2015 15:52:21 GMT
Ings will cost a fee as he is under 24 and Burnley will receive compo, prob 4 or 5 million. Hence why they chose not to sell him in January You're right of course mate, but the fee is chicken feed. It's the wages that'll turn his head which is why we wouldn't stand a chance. He's alright but nowhere near as good as some make out. I totally agree, I think he is over rated.
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Post by clarkeda on May 5, 2015 21:59:53 GMT
You're right of course mate, but the fee is chicken feed. It's the wages that'll turn his head which is why we wouldn't stand a chance. He's alright but nowhere near as good as some make out. I totally agree, I think he is over rated. I agree massively over rated, hasn't Diouf scored more? He's been played out wide, injured at ACON
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2015 5:41:25 GMT
I totally agree, I think he is over rated. I agree massively over rated, hasn't Diouf scored more? He's been played out wide, injured at ACON I think diouf is better, if diouf plays as central striker all season I honestly believe he would give a decent return of 15+ goals.
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Post by Kjones9 on May 6, 2015 6:00:47 GMT
I have a friend who's a Sampdoria fan and he said he'd drive him here for free.
Classic oatcake.
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Post by viewfrominside on May 6, 2015 6:57:37 GMT
He looks like a Diouf with a good first touch and some composure. Certainly looks like the physicality of the league wouldn't be a problem and his link up play looks decent. brilliant! So he does everything but score goals, probably washes the dishes in the changing rooms aswell. Top "striker" he is, Get in there quick stoke there must be a host of clubs after a ten a penny player like this
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Post by switch on May 6, 2015 7:04:08 GMT
He looks like a Diouf with a good first touch and some composure. Certainly looks like the physicality of the league wouldn't be a problem and his link up play looks decent. brilliant! So he does everything but score goals, probably washes the dishes in the changing rooms aswell. Top "striker" he is, Get in there quick stoke there must be a host of clubs after a ten a penny player like this Where did you get that from? the highest compliment i paid him was the word "decent" following a comparison to a far from prolific Mame Biram Diouf.
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Post by viewfrominside on May 6, 2015 7:19:00 GMT
brilliant! So he does everything but score goals, probably washes the dishes in the changing rooms aswell. Top "striker" he is, Get in there quick stoke there must be a host of clubs after a ten a penny player like this Where did you get that from? the highest compliment i paid him was the word "decent" following a comparison to a far from prolific Mame Biram Diouf. its not so much your comment mate but of all the options out there i wouldnt put it past stoke to sign a player because of his abilities in everything else but score goals. I think We need to spend if we want a goalscorer not take a "punt" on a player with one goal every 12 hours because hes cheap his overall game play might suit the premIership. This Time next summer we'd still be after a goalscorer after another season of promise is caught short because we had deep pockets and short arms
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Post by viewfrominside on May 6, 2015 7:47:55 GMT
Goal scoring is a specialised area, you dont teach a 1 goal in 8 games player to score 20 goals a season during a pre season. There are centre forwards and there are strikers, we have enough centre forwards who score the odd goal but offer good yeam play, we lack a striker who specialises in scoring goals. If we want a player that does everything well & scores 20 goals a season he is going to be upwards of 20 million pound in this day and age because the chances are 5 or 6 other clubs want to sign him aswell. With how we play now we should be looking for a striker, its the 9 lads behind him jobs to put him in a position to score. If we want a link up forward the ones we have are good enough but the widemen and bojan need to chip in with more goals to account for the said forwards contribution to their game play. Saying that i beleive bojan is capable of 15 a season in his current role as he's a class above
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