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Post by desman2 on May 21, 2016 21:34:45 GMT
Its not EU money. Its our money ie taxes which can be dispersed without belonging to a club run for the sole benefit of the big earners
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2016 21:50:00 GMT
Its not EU money. Its our money ie taxes which can be dispersed without belonging to a club run for the sole benefit of the big earners Ordinary British folks taxes sent to Brussels, they take their cut, then some sent back and given to business men, so they can set on low paid immigrants and ordinary British folks on zero hour contracts and temporary jobs Very good of them
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Post by stockportstokie on May 21, 2016 22:47:09 GMT
Its not EU money. Its our money ie taxes which can be dispersed without belonging to a club run for the sole benefit of the big earners What a difference a year makes, fuck the EU. Waste of tiem though, project fear will ensure we stay put.
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Post by ukcstokie on May 21, 2016 23:08:35 GMT
What a difference a year makes, fuck the EU. Waste of tiem though, project fear will ensure we stay put. Welcome to the light.
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Post by scfcfred on May 22, 2016 8:10:13 GMT
Brexit the movie with a interesting section on Democracy in Switzerland
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Post by bigjohnritchie on May 22, 2016 20:55:44 GMT
Nigel on democracy and how thw Commission works. Only short and worth watching if you want "more facts" on how the EU actually works. No one in the EU actually takes his views to task . One of the few politicians who speaks with passion.
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May 23, 2016 10:06:52 GMT
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Post by capto on May 23, 2016 10:06:52 GMT
Unfortunately, although there may be a lot of truth out there, the lying politicians have made all sorts of claims, arguments and counter arguments the truth is lost on all the bull shit lies they have spouted. First casualty of war ..... ?
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Post by trentvale68 on May 23, 2016 13:29:54 GMT
There are some who say power rest in the hands of 13 families,
Not saying everything on the vid is fact but def food for thought
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2016 14:45:37 GMT
There are some who say power rest in the hands of 13 families, Not saying everything on the vid is fact but def food for thought I hardly know what to say to that Some very true and thought provoking, some absolute cuckoo shit
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Post by trentvale68 on May 23, 2016 14:53:11 GMT
Its like all this stuff, you have to sort the crazy, reptilians nonsense ala David Icke from the more grounded things.
Apparently the 13 families go waay back to ancient times, its something Im open minded on. It makes sense that those with power centuries ago would seek to maintain that same power.
Ian R Crane is a good source on things
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Post by stockportstokie on May 23, 2016 16:44:01 GMT
Its like all this stuff, you have to sort the crazy, reptilians nonsense ala David Icke from the more grounded things. Apparently the 13 families go waay back to ancient times, its something Im open minded on. It makes sense that those with power centuries ago would seek to maintain that same power. Ian R Crane is a good source on things I don't know how many families are involved, I don't think the detail is of great importance. I believe it's incomprehensible that the most powerful people on earth don't dictate the world to their benefit, they'd be stupid not to. They have obvious roots in so many of the major world events. The state of Israel for one. The U.S.A is essentially their invention and HQ to their operation is where they began their takeover of the world. The U.S.A is the military of those in question and provides the foundation for them to rule the world. The media is probably the most important tool for them as it allows them to brainwash & dictate how people live their lives. Combine the power of the media with their power to make legislation, they own the world and operate it to their agenda. The prison system in America is modern day slavery and the biggest indication of the new world order or whatever name you wish to give them. The prison system in America is thought to turnover a batshit 70 billion dollars. It's for profit. An industry with such power & capital needs to be fuelled and the media is their fuel. It enables them to brainwash generation after generation. MTV turning shooting someone with a gun, doing drugs, having lots of money and abusing women into a life goal is real. Keep a class of people poor, limit their opportunities, brainwash em with scenes that in reality ar illegal, lock em up and give them a disproportionate sentence hope to keep em incarcerated for the rest of their lives or until their too old to be of benefit. Have a look at MTV, who it says below is owned by Viacom. Viacom is actually owned by National Amusements which is a company owned by Sumner Redstone, born Sumner Rothstein. Redstone Worked as an 'assistant' to someone named Tom C. Clark for almost 20 years. Clark, a lawyer, served as the US Attorney General and later nominated to become an associate justie of the supreme court (tje highest court in the land in terms of federal law) The media portray an image to our children that is truly sickening. Sexually explicit & promiscuous behaviours are so entrenched into TV stars & artists that it's the norm for fucking children to watch/listen to that material every single day of their lives. That never ending propaganda is going to condition the brain to act in a certain way. I don't think it's far fetched to say they want to turn young males into criminals & get young females trapped, ie pregnant. And so continue the cycle. The USA has the highest rate of teenage pregnancy and the biggest prison population in the world. That shit is designed. It not only controls the populace but serves as a never ending source of significant revenue. I've only covered the prison system and I feel I've been typing all day. There are so many things I could highlight. My most controversial view... This New World Order is responsible for ISIS. Israel have been giving medical assistance to IS fighters ffs. New world order is real without question. What guise they actually take is something we can't pinpoint.
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Post by trentvale68 on May 23, 2016 17:09:28 GMT
Totally agree with you on ISIS
The same thing happened with Al Qaeda & the CIA
Trouble is most folk, just take it all on the authority of the BBC. Nothing but a tool for the PTTB
Nice, short vid here that ties in with the social engineering/brainwashing angle you referred to
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Post by ruts66 on May 23, 2016 20:16:09 GMT
Shame the vast majority will never watch 'Brexit The Movie' in advance of consigning the nation to a very dark future.
The EU has done its job well in infiltrating all aspects of our lives.
How can you compete with it when the information flow is controlled in its favour.
My kids can't see what's coming, such is their indoctrination at school.
Thank God I've lived the majority of my life already and during a period of relative peace and harmony as the fate ultimately awaiting Europe will make WW2 look like a minor skirmish.
So sad...
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May 23, 2016 21:06:26 GMT
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Post by samba :) on May 23, 2016 21:06:26 GMT
Its like all this stuff, you have to sort the crazy, reptilians nonsense ala David Icke from the more grounded things. Apparently the 13 families go waay back to ancient times, its something Im open minded on. It makes sense that those with power centuries ago would seek to maintain that same power. Ian R Crane is a good source on things Your not gonna reAd all of swanseas post are you
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Post by salopstick on May 23, 2016 22:03:37 GMT
From Boris Johnson FB Page
Thanks to an unexpected wormhole in the space-time continuum, I have come across the following passage from a historical textbook a few decades hence. It is a chapter called “Brexit”…
It is now generally agreed among historians that Britain’s departure from the EU really began in 1991, a quarter of a century before the famous “Brexit” referendum. It was then that the UK government took the controversial decision to opt out of the third stage of European monetary union – thereby ensuring that the British people would be able to keep the pound sterling, rather than being forced to use the euro. When this historic rupture was confirmed by the Labour government, in 2003, there was widespread condemnation from those in British banking and business who were traditionally nervous of being left out of any European project, as well as from some politicians.
As time went on, the decision looked better and better. By imposing a one-size-fits-all monetary policy on very different economies, the euro became a disaster. Unprecedented levels of unemployment were experienced in some Mediterranean countries. The French were sunk in malaise. The Greek economy shrank by a quarter. And yet the entire energies of the EU political class were devoted to rescuing this project.
So when the British had their long-delayed referendum, in June 2016, they were being offered the worst of both worlds. They did not use the euro (whatever its supposed benefits), but there were at least two major ways in which – through membership of the EU – the British were exposed to the consequences of the euro catastrophe.
The first was immigration. Thanks largely to the decision to keep the pound, and the flexibility that went with an independent monetary policy, the UK was a zone of relatively high growth – a comparative El Dorado of job creation. This meant that the UK experienced substantial waves of immigration by people in search of work, partly from eastern Europe but also from the southern countries that had been devastated by the euro. The British were traditionally welcoming, but they could see the pressures of uncontrolled immigration on the NHS and other services. They were alarmed that the influx was about 330,000 a year, unsure that they wanted this surge to help push national population to a predicted 70 or 80 million.
They were disappointed when the UK government’s “renegotiation” of the terms of EU membership failed entirely to restore control of immigration to the UK authorities. They were also increasingly unsettled by the realisation – as the campaign went on – that it was not possible to vote for the status quo. The EU had plainly changed out of all recognition from the Common Market that they had voted for in 1975.
In their desperation to save the euro, the Brussels authorities had set an ambitious agenda to go further and faster with a United States of Europe. Reading the fine print, the British discovered that there was nothing they could do to veto such moves – towards a fiscal and political union, as detailed in the “Five Presidents’ Report”. Nor could they stop further centralisation from applying to Britain.
By the spring of 2016, many electors were thinking that the EU was moving in completely the wrong direction. With some polls even predicting a Vote to Leave, a highly nervous UK government resorted to a series of scare tactics. Hysterical claims were made about house prices, food prices, World War Three and other nonexistent bogeymen. The American president was prevailed upon to campaign for the UK to remain – even though, as he was repeatedly reminded, the US would not dream of compromising its independence in the manner required of EU members.
As the brow-beating and scare stories intensified, many began to suspect that the government campaign to “Remain” was driven not so much by an enthusiasm for the Brussels system, but simple fear of the political embarrassment entailed in a Vote to Leave. The Leave campaigners focused on the anti-democratic nature of the EU. They noted the not insignificant expense of membership – £350 million a week, all in – and the inability of the Remain campaign to show that the UK’s net contribution of £10 billion a year was well spent.
They demonstrated that EU legislation now inspired 60 per cent of all primary and secondary legislation at Westminster, and that the costs of this torrent of laws were running at about £600 million a week for British business – even though only 6 per cent of UK businesses actually traded with other EU countries. They convincingly showed that claims of UK “influence” in Brussels were laughable, given that only 3.6 per cent of EU commission officials actually came from the UK. They pointed out that plenty of non-EU countries had done better than Britain at exporting to the vaunted “single market”; that global free trade was legally impossible for Britain while in the EU; and in the end it was hard to resist the conclusion that the EU was an anachronism – outdated in a digital age in which people could shop across frontiers at the click of a mouse.
Given the choice between taking back control or being sucked ever deeper into a federal superstate, the British voted for independence on June 23. To no one’s very great surprise, Project Fear turned out to be a giant hoax. The markets were calm. The pound did not collapse. The British government immediately launched a highly effective and popular campaign across the Continent to explain that this was not a rejection of “Europe”, only of the supranational EU institutions; and a new relationship was rapidly forged based on free trade and with traditional British leadership on foreign policy, crime-fighting, intelligence-sharing and other intergovernmental cooperation.
The British felt suddenly and unexpectedly galvanised – with a renewed confidence in their democracy, and excitement about the new opportunities for global trade and partnership. The Brexit vote was followed by a powerful campaign for reform in Europe, and a widespread euphoria that at least one population had plucked up the courage to say that the emperor had no clothes.
After only a few years it became increasingly hard to find anyone who would confess to having voted Remain.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2016 22:05:00 GMT
Shame the vast majority will never watch 'Brexit The Movie' in advance of consigning the nation to a very dark future. The EU has done its job well in infiltrating all aspects of our lives. How can you compete with it when the information flow is controlled in its favour. My kids can't see what's coming, such is their indoctrination at school. Thank God I've lived the majority of my life already and during a period of relative peace and harmony as the fate ultimately awaiting Europe will make WW2 look like a minor skirmish. So sad... So you'd rather indoctrinate people with YouTube videos? I like the ones with cats.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2016 4:57:29 GMT
Shame the vast majority will never watch 'Brexit The Movie' in advance of consigning the nation to a very dark future. The EU has done its job well in infiltrating all aspects of our lives. How can you compete with it when the information flow is controlled in its favour. My kids can't see what's coming, such is their indoctrination at school. Thank God I've lived the majority of my life already and during a period of relative peace and harmony as the fate ultimately awaiting Europe will make WW2 look like a minor skirmish. So sad... So you'd rather indoctrinate people with YouTube videos? I like the ones with cats. Sly creatures those cats British Bulldogs are faithful hounds you can put your trust in
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Post by ruts66 on May 24, 2016 10:46:37 GMT
Shame the vast majority will never watch 'Brexit The Movie' in advance of consigning the nation to a very dark future. The EU has done its job well in infiltrating all aspects of our lives. How can you compete with it when the information flow is controlled in its favour. My kids can't see what's coming, such is their indoctrination at school. Thank God I've lived the majority of my life already and during a period of relative peace and harmony as the fate ultimately awaiting Europe will make WW2 look like a minor skirmish. So sad... So you'd rather indoctrinate people with YouTube videos? I like the ones with cats. Ha ha, funny fucker - I take it you don't have children who come home from school each day full of the virtues of forced multiculturalism and other EU propaganda whilst their future security and prosperity dissipates every day we get closer to losing our democracy and right to self-govern...
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