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Post by stokeharry on May 2, 2015 18:07:21 GMT
' All sorts vote.....for all parties' Nail on the head there, all sorts for all parties. UKIP definitely aren't a racist party but given that people are primarily attracted to them because of their stance on immigration I think it's fair to say they will naturally attract some of the more racist members of our society, more so than the other parties. I repeat though I don't think Farage or UKIP are racist at all. Do you think Diane Abbott is racist given her views on white people. Notice huddy still hasn't answered my question. He was asked several times and replied to me but avoided the question about the Greens. Next time he thinks he's been clever and keeps pushing some one to answer his questions just remind him of this fact
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Post by stokeharry on May 2, 2015 18:09:46 GMT
I'm not a hypocrite. Rational, reasoned people don't say 'I wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire', it's a nasty statement to make and completely uncalled for. I can understand not liking Brand's views and therefore not liking Brand himself but mumf was well out of order with his comments and fully deserved to be treated with the contempt I gave him. Brand is a cunter of the highest calibre and to be fair to Mumf I also would not piss on him if he was on fire, now pouring petrol is a different matter altogether, horrible creature Miliband has done himself no favours sucking up to this piece of human faeces. To be fair I wouldn't piss on Brand if he was on fire neither.
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Post by crapslinger on May 2, 2015 18:11:12 GMT
Do your own research start with Andrew Sachs as a starting point. Ah yes Sachsgate, people can make mistakes and when they do it's only right that they apologise for them, which he did. I know plenty about Russell Brand so I don't need to do any research, the reason I'm asking you is because I want your opinions. You know my opinions on Brand I have given them in an earlier post, I stand by them, now how about my question on Diane Abbott that you have failed to respond to.
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Post by edgepotter on May 2, 2015 18:14:27 GMT
Brand is a cunter of the highest calibre and to be fair to Mumf I also would not piss on him if he was on fire, now pouring petrol is a different matter altogether, horrible creature Miliband has done himself no favours sucking up to this piece of human faeces. To be fair I wouldn't piss on Brand if he was on fire neither. I don't get the mentality, if he was a child abuser, woman beater or a murderer I could maybe understand such comments but as it he's just a bloke who's got a certain opinion and has done one or daft things in his life.
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Post by crapslinger on May 2, 2015 18:18:15 GMT
To be fair I wouldn't piss on Brand if he was on fire neither. I don't get the mentality, if he was a child abuser, woman beater or a murderer I could maybe understand such comments but as it he's just a bloke who's got a certain opinion and has done one or daft things in his life. Ah is he just a bit silly like Miss Abbott, well that's ok then
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Post by stokeharry on May 2, 2015 18:23:29 GMT
To be fair I wouldn't piss on Brand if he was on fire neither. I don't get the mentality, if he was a child abuser, woman beater or a murderer I could maybe understand such comments but as it he's just a bloke who's got a certain opinion and has done one or daft things in his life. Mate its the way he goes about it though. He's a sarcastic bastard. He thinks he's funny and he's quick to ridicule people for thinking differently to him. The amount of times I've heard him cry racist when there is no evidence of racism is pathetic. It makes real racist incidents such as the killing of Kris Donald seem trivial. I generally don't like the bloke.
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Post by edgepotter on May 2, 2015 18:37:22 GMT
I don't get the mentality, if he was a child abuser, woman beater or a murderer I could maybe understand such comments but as it he's just a bloke who's got a certain opinion and has done one or daft things in his life. Mate its the way he goes about it though. He's a sarcastic bastard. He thinks he's funny and he's quick to ridicule people for thinking differently to him. The amount of times I've heard him cry racist when there is no evidence of racism is pathetic. It makes real racist incidents such as the killing of Kris Donald seem trivial. I generally don't like the bloke. You ridicule the people from the left for thinking differently to you though because I've quoted you doing it, you're no different to him in this respect. Give me an example of when he's cried racist?
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Post by stokeharry on May 2, 2015 18:41:47 GMT
Mate its the way he goes about it though. He's a sarcastic bastard. He thinks he's funny and he's quick to ridicule people for thinking differently to him. The amount of times I've heard him cry racist when there is no evidence of racism is pathetic. It makes real racist incidents such as the killing of Kris Donald seem trivial. I generally don't like the bloke. You ridicule the people from the left for thinking differently to you though because I've quoted you doing it, you're no different to him in this respect. Give me an example of when he's cried racist? So it's ok for Brand but not for me :/ As carps said mate do your research. I haven't got time to sit here googling "brand cries racism" all night but I've seen and heard it for myself. I understand that you respect Brand and that's fine. I'm sure his personality appeals to plenty of people but I aren't one of them. That's just the way it is
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Post by edgepotter on May 2, 2015 18:44:11 GMT
I don't get the mentality, if he was a child abuser, woman beater or a murderer I could maybe understand such comments but as it he's just a bloke who's got a certain opinion and has done one or daft things in his life. Ah is he just a bit silly like Miss Abbott, well that's ok then I didn't have a clue who Diane Abbott was, I've just googled her though and her comments were clearly very misguided and wrong, and just like Russell Brand it's important that people accept when they make mistakes, apologise for them and move on by learning from them.
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Post by partickpotter on May 2, 2015 18:47:59 GMT
Mate its the way he goes about it though. He's a sarcastic bastard. He thinks he's funny and he's quick to ridicule people for thinking differently to him. The amount of times I've heard him cry racist when there is no evidence of racism is pathetic. It makes real racist incidents such as the killing of Kris Donald seem trivial. I generally don't like the bloke. You ridicule the people from the left for thinking differently to you though because I've quoted you doing it, you're no different to him in this respect. Give me an example of when he's cried racist? Take care Edge.
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Post by edgepotter on May 2, 2015 18:51:37 GMT
You ridicule the people from the left for thinking differently to you though because I've quoted you doing it, you're no different to him in this respect. Give me an example of when he's cried racist? So it's ok for Brand but not for me :/ As carps said mate do your research. I haven't got time to sit here googling "brand cries racism" all night but I've seen and heard it for myself. I understand that you respect Brand and that's fine. I'm sure his personality appeals to plenty of people but I aren't one of them. That's just the way it is You're the one saying that's it's not ok for him to do it, yet you do it yourself. I don't need to do any research, if you're going to make claims like he's 'cried racist' then you've got to be prepared to back them up with evidence otherwise your claim means nothing.
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Post by crapslinger on May 2, 2015 18:53:10 GMT
Ah is he just a bit silly like Miss Abbott, well that's ok then I didn't have a clue who Diane Abbott was, I've just googled her though and her comments were clearly very misguided and wrong, and just like Russell Brand it's important that people accept when they make mistakes, apologise for them and move on by learning from them. So her comments are not racist I see , at least Brand resigned for his ermmmmmmmmmmmmm mistakes before he was sacked, Abbott on the other hand.
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Post by edgepotter on May 2, 2015 19:00:31 GMT
I didn't have a clue who Diane Abbott was, I've just googled her though and her comments were clearly very misguided and wrong, and just like Russell Brand it's important that people accept when they make mistakes, apologise for them and move on by learning from them. So her comments are not racist I see , at least Brand resigned for his ermmmmmmmmmmmmm mistakes before he was sacked, Abbott on the other hand. I haven't said her comments weren't racist, she was wrong and she apologised. Move on
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Post by crapslinger on May 2, 2015 19:03:42 GMT
So her comments are not racist I see , at least Brand resigned for his ermmmmmmmmmmmmm mistakes before he was sacked, Abbott on the other hand. I haven't said her comments weren't racist, she was wrong and she apologised. Move on so we agree we have a racist standing for the Labour party at the upcoming general election. (thumbsup)thank you and goodbye
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Post by stokeharry on May 2, 2015 19:17:05 GMT
So it's ok for Brand but not for me :/ As carps said mate do your research. I haven't got time to sit here googling "brand cries racism" all night but I've seen and heard it for myself. I understand that you respect Brand and that's fine. I'm sure his personality appeals to plenty of people but I aren't one of them. That's just the way it is You're the one saying that's it's not ok for him to do it, yet you do it yourself. I don't need to do any research, if you're going to make claims like he's 'cried racist' then you've got to be prepared to back them up with evidence otherwise your claim means nothing. I could find the evidence mate but I haven't got the time and I get the impression you would make excuses for him anyway. I'm off out for a few bevys before going to watch the fight so ill let you crack on . I appreciate you keeping our conversation civil though. It makes a nice change
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Post by stokeharry on May 2, 2015 19:18:11 GMT
I haven't said her comments weren't racist, she was wrong and she apologised. Move on  so we agree we have a racist standing for the Labour party at the upcoming general election. (thumbsup)thank you and goodbye In future if Farage says anything racist it's fine as long as he apologises . Remember that
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2015 19:31:32 GMT
You're the one saying that's it's not ok for him to do it, yet you do it yourself. I don't need to do any research, if you're going to make claims like he's 'cried racist' then you've got to be prepared to back them up with evidence otherwise your claim means nothing. I could find the evidence mate but I haven't got the time and I get the impression you would make excuses for him anyway. I'm off out for a few bevys before going to watch the fight so ill let you crack on . I appreciate you keeping our conversation civil though. It makes a nice change All conversations on here should be civil mate .......I've always maintained that
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Post by stokeharry on May 2, 2015 19:36:26 GMT
I could find the evidence mate but I haven't got the time and I get the impression you would make excuses for him anyway. I'm off out for a few bevys before going to watch the fight so ill let you crack on . I appreciate you keeping our conversation civil though. It makes a nice change All conversations on here should be civil mate .......I've always maintained that They SHOULD mate I agree
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2015 19:38:47 GMT
All conversations on here should be civil mate .......I've always maintained that They SHOULD mate I agree There are plenty that don't though .
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 2, 2015 19:45:26 GMT
Do you think Diane Abbott is racist given her views on white people. Notice huddy still hasn't answered my question. He was asked several times and replied to me but avoided the question about the Greens. Next time he thinks he's been clever and keeps pushing some one to answer his questions just remind him of this fact If you can find a "racist" Green Party member I would of course denounce him or her. Happy now?
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 2, 2015 19:46:32 GMT
There are plenty that don't though . No more so than the one you've just responded to....
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2015 19:56:37 GMT
There are plenty that don't though . No more so than the one you've just responded to.... Well I have had no reason not to respond to him ......he mentioned civility on this board ....I agree that's the way it should be , you know I've always held that opinion .
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Post by stokeharry on May 2, 2015 19:59:17 GMT
Notice huddy still hasn't answered my question. He was asked several times and replied to me but avoided the question about the Greens. Next time he thinks he's been clever and keeps pushing some one to answer his questions just remind him of this fact If you can find a "racist" Green Party member I would of course denounce him or her. Happy now? That wasn't the question was it. You said all parties are the same. Does that apply to the Greens as well ? Or are they unique and a special case because it suits your biased agenda?
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Post by stokeharry on May 2, 2015 20:01:36 GMT
There are plenty that don't though . No more so than the one you've just responded to.... As I've already said YOU are the worst poster on this board by a mile and that's not because of your opinions . You are childish and abusive and lack the ability to keep a debate civil and the way you constantly mock the dead is sickening.
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Post by stokeharry on May 2, 2015 20:02:25 GMT
No more so than the one you've just responded to.... Well I have had no reason not to respond to him ......he mentioned civility on this board ....I agree that's the way it should be , you know I've always held that opinion . And that's why you are a respected poster on here mate. Unlike huddy of course
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Post by edgepotter on May 2, 2015 22:46:49 GMT
I haven't said her comments weren't racist, she was wrong and she apologised. Move on so we agree we have a racist standing for the Labour party at the upcoming general election. (thumbsup)thank you and goodbye I really don't get the point you're trying to make, I've already said there's all sorts in all parties and I haven't said UKIP or Farage aren't racist. Although like Huddy has said I very much doubt you'll find a racist in the Green Party.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2015 23:01:41 GMT
so we agree we have a racist standing for the Labour party at the upcoming general election. (thumbsup)thank you and goodbye I really don't get the point you're trying to make, I've already said there's all sorts in all parties and I haven't said UKIP or Farage aren't racist. Although like Huddy has said I very much doubt you'll find a racist in the Green Party. So .....One can only presume in your opinion that UKIP or Farage 'are ' racist. I think you will find quite a few racists in the Greens . ...Maybe not round yor neck of the woods though. It's great being a green ......but shit hits the fan when you haven't got a nuclear deterrent .
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Post by edgepotter on May 2, 2015 23:10:46 GMT
I really don't get the point you're trying to make, I've already said there's all sorts in all parties and I haven't said UKIP or Farage are racist. Although like Huddy has said I very much doubt you'll find a racist in the Green Party. So .....One can only presume in your opinion that UKIP or Farage 'are ' racist. I think you will find quite a few racists in the Greens . ...Maybe not round yor neck of the woods though. It's great being a green ......but shit hits the fan when you haven't got a nuclear deterrent . Made an error which I've now amended. To be clear I don't think Farage or UKIP are racist, I do think however that due to their stance on immigration they are more likely to attract the racist type than any of the other parties.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2015 23:13:02 GMT
So .....One can only presume in your opinion that UKIP or Farage 'are ' racist. I think you will find quite a few racists in the Greens . ...Maybe not round yor neck of the woods though. It's great being a green ......but shit hits the fan when you haven't got a nuclear deterrent . Made an error which I've now amended. To be clear I don't think Farage or UKIP are racist, I do think however that due to their stance on immigration they are more likely to attract the racist type than any of the other parties. What made you come that conclusion ?
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Post by desman2 on May 2, 2015 23:19:47 GMT
Why is it when Cameron says he'll reduce immigration to tens of thousands nobody says anything. When Farage says it out comes the slur.
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