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Post by stokeharry on May 1, 2015 18:15:22 GMT
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Post by Billybigbollox on May 1, 2015 18:40:14 GMT
Was he just defecting from Caerphilly? If so I don't fucking blame him.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2015 18:54:01 GMT
There's been quite a few councillors defecting to ukip
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Post by stokeharry on May 1, 2015 18:57:04 GMT
There's been quite a few councillors defecting to ukip
Seems the media don't like to discuss it 
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Post by salopstick on May 1, 2015 19:02:52 GMT
Was he just defecting from Caerphilly? If so I don't fucking blame him. Caerfilthy |
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2015 22:19:03 GMT
Was he just defecting from Caerphilly? If so I don't fucking blame him. The Cheese isn't bad  |
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Post by daibando on May 1, 2015 22:26:43 GMT
Was he just defecting from Caerphilly? If so I don't fucking blame him. Caerfilthy What do you mean...Great place Caerphilly. Everything you need and just a few minutes from fantastic mountain scenery.. Attachment Deleted Caerphilly castle at night. |
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Post by daibando on May 1, 2015 22:29:50 GMT
Was he just defecting from Caerphilly? If so I don't fucking blame him. Shows the lovely castle and green and gorgeous town of Caerphilly  |
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2015 22:58:33 GMT
Both labour and the Tories will wonder what has hit them in this next election ..
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Post by craig67 on May 1, 2015 23:09:06 GMT
I bet Labour are shitting themselves after 1 councillor defects in the whole of Wales!!
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Post by stokeharry on May 2, 2015 0:29:01 GMT
Both labour and the Tories will wonder what has hit them in this next election .. Regardless of the what happens come election day I think the main parties have had a wake up call |
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Post by ukcstokie on May 2, 2015 0:48:51 GMT
Yesterday he was a champion of the working man.
Today he is racist scum.
Aint that so Huddy?
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 2, 2015 0:49:58 GMT
Yesterday he was a champion of the working man. Today he is racist scum. Aint that so Huddy? Why are you asking me? |
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Post by stokeharry on May 2, 2015 0:55:40 GMT
Yesterday he was a champion of the working man. Today he is racist scum. Aint that so Huddy? Fuck what the lefty PC do - gooders say. They don't live in the real world. They have no idea of reality. I'm a working class Stokie from working class English / British stock and the left don't speak for me. The closest party to representing my views and my people are UKIP The party of common sense. The party of the working class and the party of decency and what's right. There is nothing racist about wanting what's best for Britain. Immigration is out of control and there needs to be rules and regulations in place. It shouldn't be a free for all. Nigel Farage is about the only politician worthy of any respect as far as i'm concerned. He wants what's best for his country and isn't afraid to speak out. Unlike the rest of the lying scum bags from the Lib/lab/cons. The PC bridge ? I've shit em |
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Post by ukcstokie on May 2, 2015 0:56:20 GMT
Yesterday he was a champion of the working man. Today he is racist scum. Aint that so Huddy? Why are you asking me? ...because you claim pretty much all of UKIP is racist. |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 2, 2015 1:20:05 GMT
...because you claim pretty much all of UKIP is racist. Not because it's a labour councillor then. |
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Post by salopstick on May 2, 2015 7:22:00 GMT
What do you mean...Great place Caerphilly. Everything you need and just a few minutes from fantastic mountain scenery.. View Attachment Caerphilly castle at night. It's a shithole |
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Post by ukcstokie on May 2, 2015 8:15:45 GMT
...because you claim pretty much all of UKIP is racist. Not because it's a labour councillor then. Of course - you spend lots of time rambling about Labour councillors don't you? |
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2015 8:39:35 GMT
Was he just defecting from Caerphilly? If so I don't fucking blame him. Shows the lovely castle and green and gorgeous town of Caerphilly It's definitely a marvellous Castle .....Castles and Cheese , what more could you want ? |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 2, 2015 8:58:24 GMT
Not because it's a labour councillor then. Of course - you spend lots of time rambling about Labour councillors don't you? I care for none of the mainstream parties anymore. Including UKIP who no one on here can explain how they can be classed as different from the rest. |
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2015 9:01:32 GMT
The councillor is correct in saying that the Labour Party has changed .
It has changed from being a domestic socialist party of the working classes to an Internationalist charity organisation for all who want an easier life over here .
I know Milliband is pushing the message about benefits for migrants is not going to be paid for two years , but that is not good enough for me .
If he said , No Migrants for two years , then I might be prepared to listen .
Mumf
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2015 9:04:49 GMT
Of course - you spend lots of time rambling about Labour councillors don't you? I care for none of the mainstream parties anymore. Including UKIP who no one on here can explain how they can be classed as different from the rest. Same here ...same for a lot of people . But you then have to prioritise your feelings in order to vote . |
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Post by stokeharry on May 2, 2015 9:12:39 GMT
The councillor is correct in saying that the Labour Party has changed . It has changed from being a domestic socialist party of the working classes to an Internationalist charity organisation for all who want an easier life over here . I know Milliband is pushing the message about benefits for migrants is not going to be paid for two years , but that is not good enough for me . If he said , No Migrants for two years , then I might be prepared to listen . Mumf +1 It was Labour that caused the problem of mass immigration in the first place. When they opened the borders and chose to let everyone in, in a deliberate attempt at changing the nation's ethic make up, just to "rub the rights nose in it" they lost me as a Labour voter. They can never be forgiven for what they have done and I will never vote for the party of treason again, regardless of what they say. |
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Post by ukcstokie on May 2, 2015 9:57:47 GMT
Of course - you spend lots of time rambling about Labour councillors don't you? I care for none of the mainstream parties anymore. Including UKIP who no one on here can explain how they can be classed as different from the rest. So ignoring the point then? Why is UKIP different? In many respects they are similar to the other parties, but their policies on Europe and immigration control set them aside. So they're different due to policies - something you've shown time and time again you're unable to debate sensibly about. |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 2, 2015 10:03:04 GMT
I care for none of the mainstream parties anymore. Including UKIP who no one on here can explain how they can be classed as different from the rest. So ignoring the point then? Why is UKIP different? In many respects they are similar to the other parties, but their policies on Europe and immigration control set them aside. So they're different due to policies - something you've shown time and time again you're unable to debate sensibly about. Farage tried and failed on numerous occasions to be a Tory MP Thatcher is his heroine. UKIP's policies are the same as the Tories. Their stance on immigration and Europe is identical to the right wing of the Tory party. If you can indicate where I've been "unable to debate sensibly" I'd be grateful. Not you or any other Kipper on here has been able to explain sensibly to me exactly why you see them as a breath of fresh air. That's simply because they aren't my friend. |
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Post by stokeharry on May 2, 2015 10:09:05 GMT
I care for none of the mainstream parties anymore. Including UKIP who no one on here can explain how they can be classed as different from the rest. So ignoring the point then? Why is UKIP different? In many respects they are similar to the other parties, but their policies on Europe and immigration control set them aside. So they're different due to policies - something you've shown time and time again you're unable to debate sensibly about. Correct. UKIPs policies are what make them different. You only have to watch Farage in comparison to Milliband, Cameron and Clegg to realise the man is much more trustworthy and decent. |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 2, 2015 10:22:18 GMT
So ignoring the point then? Why is UKIP different? In many respects they are similar to the other parties, but their policies on Europe and immigration control set them aside. So they're different due to policies - something you've shown time and time again you're unable to debate sensibly about. Correct. UKIPs policies are what make them different. You only have to watch Farage in comparison to Milliband, Cameron and Clegg to realise the man is much more trustworthy and decent. He's no different than any of them. |
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Post by ukcstokie on May 2, 2015 10:22:43 GMT
So ignoring the point then? Why is UKIP different? In many respects they are similar to the other parties, but their policies on Europe and immigration control set them aside. So they're different due to policies - something you've shown time and time again you're unable to debate sensibly about. Farage tried and failed on numerous occasions to be a Tory MP Thatcher is his heroine. UKIP's policies are the same as the Tories. Their stance on immigration and Europe is identical to the right wing of the Tory party. If you can indicate where I've been "unable to debate sensibly" I'd be grateful. Not you or any other Kipper on here has been able to explain sensibly to me exactly why you see them as a breath of fresh air. That's simply because they aren't my friend. There you go again. I'm talking about policies and you immediately start going on about Farage. You asked where you fail to engage in sensible debate, well here you go: oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/user/2178/recentWhy does having similar views about some key policies to part of the Tories - policies that are different to the Tory's policies - not make them different? |
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Post by stokeharry on May 2, 2015 10:23:29 GMT
Correct. UKIPs policies are what make them different. You only have to watch Farage in comparison to Milliband, Cameron and Clegg to realise the man is much more trustworthy and decent. He's no different than any of them. Why because you say so? I disagree |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 2, 2015 10:25:29 GMT
Farage tried and failed on numerous occasions to be a Tory MP Thatcher is his heroine. UKIP's policies are the same as the Tories. Their stance on immigration and Europe is identical to the right wing of the Tory party. If you can indicate where I've been "unable to debate sensibly" I'd be grateful. Not you or any other Kipper on here has been able to explain sensibly to me exactly why you see them as a breath of fresh air. That's simply because they aren't my friend. There you go again. I'm talking about policies and you immediately start going on about Farage. You asked where you fail to engage in sensible debate, well here you go: oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/user/2178/recentWhy does having similar views about some key policies to part of the Tories - policies that are different to the Tory's policies - not make them different? Their policies are to the right of the Tory Party. As you well know. |
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